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Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by benzics(m): 12:02am On Dec 09, 2016
To all those who claim god is all loving, take a look at this careful illustration.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkgmU9vG_o

Cc: 4evergod,richirich713,KingEbukasBlog
Since you guys "know your god"

Cc: Hahn, jonbellion, hopefulLandlord, foladara777, FSMs, HardMirror Etcetera

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 12:23am On Dec 09, 2016
benzics:
To all those who claim god is all loving, take a look at this careful illustration.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkgmU9vG_o

Cc: 4evergod,richirich713,KingEbukasBlog
Since you guys "know your god"

Cc: Hahn, jonbellion, hopefulLandlord, foladara777, FSMs, HardMirror Etcetera
Mimzyy. Pushing a question away is not the way to answer it. What if it's all man made? What if its all a lie? Examine the facts u have

Thanks for the video. Why are we so afraid to question a god that may not even exist?
Why can't we pause for a minute and be honest with ourselves?

An all loving god is so callous, but even humans that are not all loving are so forgiving?

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 8:35am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror, this isn't a true interpretation of the bible/God's love. Haba.

Going by what the speaker said, everyone is going to hell 'cos of Adam and Eve's sin and that's so not true. Common, God's aura is all around you, his mercies endureth forever. Even if He doesn't live, you have nothing to lose in the hereafter if you believe in him now.

I'm not a religious fanatic but I'll keep praying for you especially. I love you and God loves you too.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 8:38am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
HardMirror, this isn't a true interpretation of the bible/God's love. Haba.

Going by what the speaker said, everyone is going to hell 'cos of Adam and Eve's sin and that's so not true. Common, God's aura is all around you, his mercies endureth forever. Even if He doesn't live, you have nothing to lose in the hereafter if you believe in him now.

I'm not a religious fanatic but I'll keep praying for you especially. I love you and God loves you too.
How do you know?
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 8:45am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Mimzyy. Pushing a question away is not the way to answer it. What if it's all man made? What if its all a lie? Examine the facts u have

Thanks for the video. Why are we so afraid to question a god that may not even exist?
Why can't we pause for a minute and be honest with ourselves?

An all loving god is so callous, but even humans that are not all loving are so forgiving?
The ability to ask question is only gifted to a few. I've seen how many peeps just accept whatever they're told, without the zeal to even ask the simplest of questions.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 8:46am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
How do you know?

If he believes in God now and he eventually finds out that he doesn't exist in the hereafter, what does he have to lose? Nothing. It's self explanatory baby.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 8:54am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:

If he believes in God now and he eventually finds out that he doesn't exist in the hereafter, what does he have to lose? Nothing. It's self explanatory baby.
How do you know he will find out God exist in the afterlife?

If he didn't know God existed before he came into this world, how are you sure he will know God exist after he leave this world?
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 8:55am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
HardMirror, this isn't a true interpretation of the bible/God's love. Haba.

Have you read thru your bible. All he said are true. God is our father. The sin of Adam and Eve is what we are still paying for (according to the bible) if Eve never ate that fruit there won't be need for heaven and hell, we will be in eden (paradise), Jesus died to save us from our sins.
So what is wron again in his interpretation?

Going by what the speaker said, everyone is going to hell 'cos of Adam and Eve's sin and that's so not true. Common, God's aura is all around you, his mercies endureth forever.
Read what I just typed above pls. And are you trying to contradict Jesus that said you cannot reach the father without him, are you contradicting Jesus that says he is the only way? Christianity is without Jesus there is no salvation. Else you are saying Jesus is not important.
So the video is right, punishing a son so as to forgive other children. Why not jist forgive?

Even if He doesn't live, you have nothing to lose in the hereafter if you believe in him now.
What if islam is the way? Then you shld know you are going to hell. This does not fly with me. I am not afraid.


I'm not a religious fanatic but I'll keep praying for you especially. I love you and God loves you too.
I always say it, no one shld bother praying for me. Why not pray for those who really need the prayers? Why not pray for those born with deformities so God can perfect them since he must have been dozing when he was creating them, or does he expect hospitals to correct his mistake?

Yes I love u too, u are beautiful and trying to be honest with yourself. Think about these things. Are you so afraid of the unknown? What really is the unknown?

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 8:57am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
How do you know he will find out God exist in the afterlife?

If he didn't know God existed before he came into this world, how are you sure he will know God exist after he leave this world?
Exactly.
There are motives that necessitates the creation of God and afterlife. Without them man may find it difficult to control man. Religion has really helped to achieve this
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 9:00am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Exactly.
There are motives that necessitates the creation of God and afterlife. Without them man may find it difficult to control man. Religion has really helped to achieve this
It has always been about control. Not just control the behaviour of man, but to control how he thinks. This is something religion has helped achieve.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 9:02am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
It has always been about control. Not just control the behaviour of man, but to control how he thinks. This is something religion has helped achieve.
It is important to make man predictable

Why I support religion. I want only a few people to know the truth. Let others continue, it is to my advantage

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 9:08am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

It is important to make man predictable
Why I support religion. I want only a few people to know the truth. Let others continue, it is to my advantage
Man has always been predictable. Just like his fellow animals.

What religion does is hamper the thinking of man. It makes it gullible and susceptible to all form of manipulation.

This is among the reason I wrote my recent poem, An Epitaph For The Mind. The minds of men (nigerian) is dead.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 9:19am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
Man has always been predictable. Just like his fellow animals.

What religion does is hamper the thinking of man. It makes it gullible and susceptible to all form of manipulation.

This is among the reason I wrote my recent poem, An Epitaph For The Mind. The minds of men (nigerian) is dead.
Education and religion have achieved this. To be truely educated is not to be beaten into shape and dogma, but to be liberated to achieve all you want to achieve, but conventionally education has been a scheme to make you fit into society and religion is it's fellow traveler, let us all think alike, that is what it is all about.

YOLO. It's your life, think outside the box. Live life.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 9:30am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Education and religion have achieved this. To be truely educated is not to be beaten into shape and dogma, but to be liberated to achieve all you want to achieve, but conventionally education has been a scheme to make you fit into society and religion is it's fellow traveler, let us all think alike, that is what it is all about.

YOLO. It's your life, think outside the box. Live life.
Dr. Marx Wagbafor, formerly of the department of political science and public administration, university of Benin, once said to me "education is an eye opener, if you allow it open your eye".

After being under the tutelage of that great man, I decided religion itself is a sin. A sin that is as sinful as committing murder.

So trick there is, you see what this education and religion seek to do, and you rebel against it. I've always known no one is suppose to think like me, cos there's only one me.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 10:22am On Dec 09, 2016
Lolzzzzz. I AM A MUSLIM. I've mentioned it here severally. So this doesn't apply to me. I attended a christian secondary school for six years so I am used to both tenets.

I used to be afraid of the unknown until I stopped worrying myself over things that I do not have control over. I'm taking a risk and so are you. Life is in itself a huge risk.

HardMirror:


Have you read thru your bible. All he said are true. God is our father. The sin of Adam and Eve is what we are still paying for (according to the bible) if Eve never ate that fruit there won't be need for heaven and hell, we will be in eden (paradise), Jesus died to save us from our sins.
So what is wron again in his interpretation?

Read what I just typed above pls. And are you trying to contradict Jesus that said you cannot reach the father without him, are you contradicting Jesus that says he is the only way? Christianity is without Jesus there is no salvation. Else you are saying Jesus is not important.
So the video is right, punishing a son so as to forgive other children. Why not jist forgive?


What if islam is the way? Then you shld know you are going to hell. This does not fly with me. I am not afraid.



I always say it, no one shld bother praying for me. Why not pray for those who really need the prayers? Why not pray for those born with deformities so God can perfect them since he must have been dozing when he was creating them, or does he expect hospitals to correct his mistake?

Yes I love u too, u are beautiful and trying to be honest with yourself. Think about these things. Are you so afraid of the unknown? What really is the unknown?
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 10:27am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
Lolzzzzz. I AM A MUSLIM. I've mentioned it here severally. So this doesn't apply to me. I attended a christian secondary school for six years so I am used to both tenets.

I used to be afraid of the unknown until I stopped worrying myself over things that I do not have control over. I'm taking a risk and so are you. Life is in itself a huge risk.

Now I understand why you are more reasonable than the average christian. Sorry to say christians are too petty and naïve, muslims tend to be more scholarly.
Keep asking questions and keep being honest in your search for answers.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by benzics(m): 10:59am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
HardMirror, this isn't a true interpretation of the bible/God's love. Haba.

Going by what the speaker said, everyone is going to hell 'cos of Adam and Eve's sin and that's so not true. Common, God's aura is all around you, his mercies endureth forever. Even if He doesn't live, you have nothing to lose in the hereafter if you believe in him now.

I'm not a religious fanatic but I'll keep praying for you especially. I love you and God loves you too.
lol grin

God doesn't love anyone (if he truly exists).

Now, examine this and tell me what type of a person I am.

"I was walking down my street on a faithful day, I heard a little girl crying and begging for help, so I ran to her direction, she was a 6year old, and an 18 year old boy was pulling her pants down to rape her, I am 32years old by the way, so the boy teared her pants, removed his thing and inserted in the poor baby's hole, she was bleeding and crying, saying "uncle please help me, please", but I was just there telling her, "oh, I love you dear, and I don't want you to suffer, i don't wish evil for you", and I joined her in crying, instead of pulling the boy out, I just watched till she was raped to death, and I moved on saying "I really pity that poor baby"....."

Now what type of a person am I? Am I a loving being because I told her "I loved her", or am a mad, wicked psychopath who could have done something but did nothing!!

Your answer should be what your god is, if he is all powerful but still won't do anything to save you, just apply that logic...

KingEbukasBlog, richirich713

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by JoeBlocks(m): 11:03am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Now I understand why you are more reasonable than the average christian. Sorry to say christians are too petty and naïve, muslims tend to be more scholarly.
Keep asking questions and keep being honest in your search for answers.
You also forget, blood thirsty, intolerant, arrogant, nepotistic, corrupt, two faced and my personal favourite, goddammn sexy (their women).

The average muslim female northerner is more spoiled (in sexual matters) than the average christian female southerner.

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Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:15am On Dec 09, 2016
benzics:
lol grin

God doesn't love anyone (if he truly exists).

Now, examine this and tell me what type of a person I am.

"I was walking down my street on a faithful day, I heard a little girl crying and begging for help, so I ran to her direction, she was a 6year old, and an 18 year old boy was pulling her pants down to rape her, I am 32years old by the way, so the boy teared her pants, removed his thing and inserted in the poor baby's hole, she was bleeding and crying, saying "uncle please help me, please", but I was just there telling her, "oh, I love you dear, and I don't want you to suffer, i don't wish evil for you", and I joined her in crying, instead of pulling the boy out, I just watched till she was raped to death, and I moved on saying "I really pity that poor baby"....."

Now what type of a person am I? Am I a loving being because I told her "I loved her", or am a mad, wicked psychopath who could have done something but did nothing!!

Your answer should be what your god is, if he is all powerful but still won't do anything to save you, just apply that logic...

KingEbukasBlog, richirich713
Check my thread www.nairaland.com/3411190/2-year-old-daughter-got

My 2yr old dAughter got raped in the presence of my dad. This is the story of many children that are rape victims. Their all loving father sits back and enjoy the pornography while a human that is not all loving won't stand by and watch such wickedness
Cc mimzyy
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 11:19am On Dec 09, 2016
My presence was registered on that thread. Page 8 or so..

HardMirror:

Check my thread www.nairaland.com/3411190/2-year-old-daughter-got

My 2yr old dAughter got raped in the presence of my dad. This is the story of many children that are rape victims. Their all loving father sits back and enjoy the pornography while a human that is not all loving won't stand by and watch such wickedness
Cc mimzyy
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:21am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
You also forget, blood thirsty, intolerant, arrogant, nepotistic, corrupt, two faced and my personal favourite, goddammn sexy (their women).

The average muslim female northerner is more spoiled (in sexual matters) than the average christian female southerner.
All that does not change the fact that christians are petty and naïve. Muslims are more scholarly. Fact from experience. You can't compare and educated muslim with an educated christian, the muslim would tend to argue more logically, while the christian will be all emotional and playing victim.

Yes muslim ladies are damn sexy, but we are not here to discuss that. *smiles*
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:22am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
My presence was registered on that thread. Page 8 or so..

Can't recall
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 11:25am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Can't recall


Check.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 11:27am On Dec 09, 2016
We are sexy and we know it cheesy.
HardMirror:

All that does not change the fact that christians are petty and naïve. Muslims are more scholarly. Fact from experience. You can't compare and educated muslim with an educated christian, the muslim would tend to argue more logically, while the christian will be all emotional and playing victim.

Yes muslim ladies are damn sexy, but we are not here to discuss that. *smiles*
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 11:28am On Dec 09, 2016
JoeBlocks:
[s]You also forget, blood thirsty, intolerant, arrogant, nepotistic, corrupt, two faced[/s]and my personal favourite, goddammn sexy (their women).

The average muslim female northerner is more spoiled (in sexual matters) than the average christian female southerner.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:29am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:

Check.
Can I send a pm?
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by Mimzyy(f): 11:29am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Can I send a pm?

Def.
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:31am On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:

Def.
ok
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by hahn(m): 11:38am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Can I send a pm?

From PM to za oza room wink
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by HardMirror(m): 11:41am On Dec 09, 2016
hahn:


From PM to za oza room wink
Let's leave that for God to determine shall we. It's off nairaland. Mind your business hahn angry
Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by hahn(m): 11:56am On Dec 09, 2016
HardMirror:

Let's leave that for God to determine shall we. It's off nairaland. Mind your business hahn angry

So when it comes to pvssy you remember "God"

Re: Forgiveness And Grace, A Video Everybody Must Watch by maysimsimple(m): 12:28pm On Dec 09, 2016
Mimzyy:
Lolzzzzz. I AM A MUSLIM. I've mentioned it here severally. So this doesn't apply to me. I attended a christian secondary school for six years so I am used to both tenets.

I used to be afraid of the unknown until I stopped worrying myself over things that I do not have control over. I'm taking a risk and so are you. Life is in itself a huge risk.


Salam alaikum.,.. .. .

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