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Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by mjames: 9:48am On Dec 26, 2016
General Superintendent of Deeper Life Bible Church made this known today as he brought the yearly National December Retreat to a close at Lagos camp. He told his congregation that Christian don't take chieftaincy titles.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by perfectwazobia1: 10:03am On Dec 26, 2016
Give us a credible link
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by kodded(m): 10:04am On Dec 26, 2016
osinbande you don hear ? tongue

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by dorry62(f): 10:11am On Dec 26, 2016
Hmm but how about that bible verse that says 'when the righteous is in power the people rejoice'
Who are the righteous then if not those that'll make heaven.
With due respect sir i disagree.

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by cliquevibes(m): 10:17am On Dec 26, 2016
dorry62:
Hmm but how about that bible verse that says 'when the righteous is in power the people rejoice'
Who are the righteous then if not those that'll make heaven.
With due respect sir i disagree.
Be Sure first dat he said it b4 diving into conclusion... It nt all d news on nairaland is legit...

U disagree?? The Great Disagreer
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Kondomatic(m): 10:25am On Dec 26, 2016
dorry62:
Hmm but how about that bible verse that says 'when the righteous is in power the people rejoice'
Who are the righteous then if not those that'll make heaven.
With due respect sir i disagree.
Lol.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by NATIONALPASTOR: 10:49am On Dec 26, 2016
Who told this man this?

But he galivants around stealing from the politicians what they have stolen from the people.

All these pastors and lies just to keep their followers under bondage are just too terrible.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by mjames: 12:24pm On Dec 26, 2016
dorry62:
Hmm but how about that bible verse that says 'when the righteous is in power the people rejoice'
Who are the righteous then if not those that'll make heaven.
With due respect sir i disagree.

Authority and power is not limited to politics
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 7:41pm On Dec 26, 2016
mjames:


Authority and power is not limited to politics
Truth. God bless you.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 7:54pm On Dec 26, 2016
NATIONALPASTOR:
Who told this man this?

But he galivants around stealing from the politicians what they have stolen from the people.

All these pastors and lies just to keep their followers under bondage are just too terrible.
Please we need evidence of pastor Kumuyi 'stealing' or collecting money from politicians. The fact is that politicians are also human beings for whom Christ died. So anywhere pastor Kumuyi goes for ministrations, he has to invite them so that they too can come and possibly be saved. And when any highly placed person attends, there is need to "give honour to whom honour is due" by recognizing their presence. Thanks.

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 8:01pm On Dec 26, 2016
In deeper life we try to attain salvation by ourselves, insult the grace of God and reject the finished work of Christ.

We are more concerned about making (our) heaven than knowing Christ and being conformed to his image

We are too self-conscious and self centred that we accuse those whose eyes are on the cross of easy believism

In deeper life righteousness is attained by right living such as avoiding politics and not simply believing in Jesus.

In deeper life we are justified by our obedience to the law and not by faith in the blood of the lamb


We are deeper lifers. We are going deeper deeper

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by LordIsaac(m): 8:47pm On Dec 26, 2016
An2elect2:
In deeper life we try to attain salvation by ourselves, insult the grace of God and reject the finished work of Christ.

We are more concerned about making (our) heaven than knowing Christ and being conformed to his image

We are too self-conscious and self centred that we accuse those whose eyes are on the cross of easy believism

In deeper life righteousness is attained by right living such as avoiding politics and not simply believing in Jesus.

In deeper life we are justified by our obedience to the law and not by faith in the blood of the lamb


We are deeper lifers. We are going deeper deeper
Are you saying all Pastor Kumuyi preaches, with over 40 years of pulpit ministry and the testimonies that accompany the crusades he has held and is still holding, the above is your summary of the church and it's doctrines?
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 10:03pm On Dec 26, 2016
An2elect2:
In deeper life we try to attain salvation by ourselves, insult the grace of God and reject the finished work of Christ.

We are more concerned about making (our) heaven than knowing Christ and being conformed to his image

We are too self-conscious and self centred that we accuse those whose eyes are on the cross of easy believism

In deeper life righteousness is attained by right living such as avoiding politics and not simply believing in Jesus.

In deeper life we are justified by our obedience to the law and not by faith in the blood of the lamb


We are deeper lifers. We are going deeper deeper
It is very clear that you know next to nothing about Deeper Life Bible Church. Why expose your barefaced gross ignorance?

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 10:06pm On Dec 26, 2016
LordIsaac:

Are you saying all Pastor Kumuyi preaches, with over 40 years of pulpit ministry and the testimonies that accompany the crusades he has held and is still holding, the above is your summary of the church and it's doctrines?
yep
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 10:10pm On Dec 26, 2016
Sinkills:
It is very clear that you know next to nothing about Deeper Life Bible Church. Why expose your barefaced gross ignorance?
Are you denying us?
Come on thats what we believe.

Holiness is our watchword and making heaven our goal.

_ Deeper life
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by ichuka(m): 12:05am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
In deeper life we try to attain salvation by ourselves, insult the grace of God and reject the finished work of Christ.

We are more concerned about making (our) heaven than knowing Christ and being conformed to his image

We are too self-conscious and self centred that we accuse those whose eyes are on the cross of easy believism

In deeper life righteousness is attained by right living such as avoiding politics and not simply believing in Jesus.

In deeper life we are justified by our obedience to the law and not by faith in the blood of the lamb


We are deeper lifers. We are going deeper deeper
You have to take it easy.
Things are not always as it seems.always neglect/ignore the obvious.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by LordIsaac(m): 12:38am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
yep
It's unfortunate that you could be higly judgemental of a man of God of such standing brazenly and shamelessly too. May God deliver you from your current state as it is nothing short of apostacy. For the record, I must turn away from following you as you obviously "have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof."
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by femzysticks(m): 4:10am On Dec 27, 2016
mjames:
General Superintendent of Deeper Life Bible Church made this known today as he brought the yearly National December Retreat to a close at Lagos camp. He told his congregation that Christian don't take chieftaincy titles.


kodded:
osinbajo you don hear ? tongue


DONT GET HIM WRONG

chieftaincy titles comes with many spiritual and ungodly practices
they make several sacrifices to some gods they believe in

you cant classify it under 'politics'

infact we need men of God in power for the economy to be better

imagine if all the people in power have the fear of God...
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 8:20am On Dec 27, 2016
ichuka:

You have to take it easy.
Things are not always as it seems.always neglect/ignore the obvious.
Its not obvious! I wont take nothing easy
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 8:21am On Dec 27, 2016
LordIsaac:

It's unfortunate that you could be higly judgemental of a man of God of such standing brazenly and shamelessly too. May God deliver you from your current state as it is nothing short of apostacy. For the record, I must turn away from following you as you obviously "have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof."
Disprove all i have said and you will see you cant grin
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by LordIsaac(m): 8:35am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
Disprove all i have said and you will see you cant grin
"But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness." IITimothy 2:16. There, my dear, you have your answer!
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 8:44am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
Are you denying us?
Come on thats what we believe.

Holiness is our watchword and making heaven our goal.

_ Deeper life
And what is the correlation between holiness, heaven and the rubbish you typed earlier in relation to Deeper Life? FYI, Deeper Life Bible Church preaches salvation from sin by grace in Christ ALONE. We also preach practical day to day right living after salvation which is equally by grace (Matthew 5:20; Romans 6:1-14; Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 2:11-14; 3:5-cool. Obviously, you are not comfortable with the latter. Are you of the school of thought that erroneously equates GRACE with license to go ahead committing sin? You are damn wrong. Deeper Life Bible Church and a few others are standing on the saving and sustaining truth of the Scriptures. Join us. God bless you.

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 9:06am On Dec 27, 2016
LordIsaac:

"But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness." IITimothy 2:16. There, my dear, you have your answer!
How can you refer to scriptural reasoning as profane and vain babblings! You know not what you say
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by LordIsaac(m): 9:16am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
How can you refer to scriptural reasonong as profane and vain babblings! You know not what you say
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." II Thessalonians 2:11 and 12. Pray that God delivers you from the strong delusion that apparently characterizes your pattern of thought and mind!
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 9:17am On Dec 27, 2016
Sinkills:
And what is the correlation between holiness, heaven and the rubbish you typed earlier in relation to Deeper Life? FYI, Deeper Life Bible Church preaches salvation from sin by grace in Christ ALONE. We also preach practical day to day right living after salvation which is equally by grace (Matthew 5:20; Romans 6:1-14; Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 2:11-14; 3:5-cool. Obviously, you are not comfortable with the latter. Are you of the school of thought that erroneously equates GRACE with license to go ahead committing sin? You are damn wrong. Deeper Life Bible Church and a few others are standing on the saving and sustaining truth of the Scriptures. Join us. God bless you.
You i have left you to your false gospel. You rely on your moral strenght and craftly call it the grace of God

Sinkills on dec 10


...join a Bible-believing church where the emphasis is on how to please God in holiness and righteousness, be prayerful, live right by the grace of God and let me see how you will not make it to heaven.

Sinkillls obviously does not believe salvation is an eternal gift giving with no condition at all and secured by the blood of the lamb not your false righteousness and holiness.

Thats why most of you are mean, unkind and angry and have a form of godliness with no power because you cant bear good fruits by trusting yourselves.

Look on Christ grin
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 9:21am On Dec 27, 2016
femzysticks:






DONT GET HIM WRONG

chieftaincy titles comes with many spiritual and ungodly practices
they make several sacrifices to some gods they believe in

you cant classify it under 'politics'

infact we need men of God in power for the economy to be better

imagine if all the people in power have the fear of God...
And the debate continues. Pastor Kumuyi quoted 2nd Timothy 2:4 "No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please Him who hath chosen him to be a soldier". Christians are soldiers chosen by Christ to fight against sin and Satan. In order to please Christ and effectively win the spiritual war, serious-minded Christians do not need any entanglement with the politics of this world because they constitute distractions. In fact, there are dirt, contaminations, compromises, occultisms, character assasinations, intrigues, hatred and other evils associated with politicking. Do not deceive yourself. God is wiser than you are. So if you are a genuinely born again Christian, one who understands how beautiful and wonderful heaven is, you are advised to stear clear. You are a minority in the midst of sinful majority. You will either join them or be frustrated out. What shall it profit you to want to 'improve the economy' and lose your previous soul in the process? Leave the 'dead' to bury their dead (Luke 9:60). Remain blessed.
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by An2elect2(f): 9:22am On Dec 27, 2016
LordIsaac:

"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." II Thessalonians 2:11 and 12. Pray that God delivers you from the strong delusion that apparently characterizes your pattern of thought and mind!
How can a person who relies solely on the grace of God and experiences the manifestation of his power over sin be strongly deluded.

You dont know what you are saying!

Who is the deluded fellow, the one that adds to the finished work of Christ. The one that must come under the law to attain righteousness. sad

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Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by ichuka(m): 9:30am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
Its not obvious! I wont take nothing easy
My dear sis
You can say what u are lead to say
But pls no names calling pls
Re: Christian Who Want To Get To Heaven Don't get Involve In Politics - Kumuyi by Sinkills: 9:59am On Dec 27, 2016
An2elect2:
You i have left you to your false gospel. You rely on your moral strenght and craftly call it the grace of God

Sinkills on dec 10



Sinkillls obviously does not believe salvation is an eternal gift giving with no condition at all and secured by the blood of the lamb not your false righteousness and holiness.

Thats why most of you are mean, unkind and angry and have a form of godliness with no power because you cant bear good fruits by trusting yourselves.

Look on Christ grin

There you are. Obviously, you believe in predestination and unconditional eternal security for sinning 'Christians'. Sorry. You are lost but I pray you will repent before you die. FYI, salvation from sin and its consequences is a gift from Christ but obtaining and retaining same is conditional. This is clearly written all over the Scriptures (Job 22:23; Isaiah 1:16-18; John 3:16, 8:24,29,31; Mark 13:13; 16:16; Luke 13:3-5; John 15:4-6; Hebrews 3:6,13,14). I am not interested in winning any argument. The truth is not debatable. I only decided to correct your misrepresentation of what Deeper Life Bible Church stands for. A lot of people who do not attend Deeper Life know that the truth is there. It us just that it does not suit the kind of life they want to live. As such they choose where to go (2nd Timothy 4:3,4). You can only deceive people like you.

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