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Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by SmartyPants(m): 9:52pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Okay |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Ngozi123(f): 10:21pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
SmartyPants: I found it! It's from Max Siollun's "Oil, Politics and Violence: Nigeria's Military Coup Culture (1966-1976)". I advise you to read the whole book but if you don't have much time then I'd direct you to the middle of page 42, where it says that Aguiyi-Ironsi actually circulated a letter, warning other senior officials of the some trouble ahead. It's not his fault that they didn't take the treat seriously. It also says that Aguiyi-Ironsi's wife housed the orphaned Ademulegun children and set up government scholarships for them up to the university level. That's something that's not talked about a lot and suggests that Aguiyi-Ironsi may not have been guilty of what he was accused of. Edit: Sorry, he's not British, he's Nigerian and he specialises in the Nigerian military, which is probably better. His name caught me off guard. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by SmartyPants(m): 1:20am On Jan 08, 2017 |
Ngozi123: I know of Max Solliun. Alright, will try to read his book... thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by zendy: 4:29am On Jan 08, 2017 |
Bolustic: Ironsi killed Regionalism? If you think that then what will you think of Gowon who inherited the same 4 Regions from Ironsi but went on to divide those 4 Regions into 12 states? 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by T8ksy(m): 12:06pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
zendy: Ol' boy, I suggest you go and read up on Ironsi's decree 34 and then come back here and tell us what you think it meant. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by zendy: 2:19pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
T8ksy: I dont need to read it to know that the four Regions still existed after it was promulgated. They didnt exist after Gowon promulgated his own decree. You dont have to Einstein to figure out who killed the Regions between Ironsi and Gowon. |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by T9ksy(m): 5:52pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
zendy: Now you see you why i tag your ilk "malfunctioning clones" afflicted with an acute case of intellectual laziness. On 12 May, proposed Decrees 33 and 34 were discussed by the SMC. Decree No. 33 was a list of 81 political societies and 26 tribal and cultural associations that were to be dissolved. Decree No. 34 divided Nigeria into 35 provinces and made all civil servants part of a unified civil service. It is said that there was opposition and that the final version was watered down. Even then, although Ironsi did not legally require approval of the SMC for decisions, there continues to be doubt about whether Ironsi fully appreciated the depths of opposition which Decree 34 would create in the North. How vigorously did Katsina, Kam Salem, and Gowon, for example, forewarn him of consequences? [/b]Had he by then become hostage to a kitchen cabinet outside government? Source=========>http://www.africamasterweb.com/CounterCoup.html Also the unitary concept advanced by Ironsi's advisers who were predominantly ibos was more likely motivated by ideological, personal and economic agendas. It's instructive to note that as far back as the early 50's, the ibos through their tribal party, NCNC propose unitary system of govt as part of the bedrock of their party policy. This is the masterstroke by which they intend to domionate the rest of us in the new nation. Truly clever but only by halves. Source==========> "The Nigerian Army 1956-66" by Norman Miners. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Deadlytruth(m): 8:01am On Jan 04, 2018 |
MAYOWAAK: As at the 1961 which Ademoyega claims here was the remotest beginnings of plans for the coup, the reasons they themselves cited for the coup had not come into existence. In fact the Coalition Government was sworn in just three months to the end of 1960. Let's assume that, give and take, the planning which Ademoyega refers to started in June of that year 1961, that will bring it to just 9 months into the life of the administration. How can a nine-month old government which was yet to fully settle down be adjudged as having perpetrated monumental corruption so soon and needed to be removed with a coup? That was an evidence that the plotters of the coup wanted power at all costs and so had to just give the Balewa government a bad name in order to hang it. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Roger3D(m): 2:01pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
queencalipso:Gowon made thew right call by refusing to fully implement the Aburi accord because Ojukwu outsmarted the FG by insisting that the center remain weak so that he could eventually get his Biafra. Thank God that when Gowon returned to Lagos from Aburi, the senior civil servants saw through Ojukwu's plan and duly advised the supreme commander not to implement the accord 2 Likes |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Naajjii: 2:55pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
edudguy:Ironsi got wing of the coup and others top officers in the north and other regions did not,is that fair? Apart from that Balewa, Ahmadu bello,Akintola and others were killed and Zik was out of the country, apart from that alot of senior military officers from the north were killed, apart from that they were jubilation in the east after the killings. Dont you think the way the coup was executed it would be hard to convince others who lost lot of their leaders that coup was not sectional.That coup was very unfortunate it was root of the issues we are currently grappling with, not just the mutual suspicious and hate but the fact that it abolished the regional structure we had.If that structure was kept it would have been lot easier to solve current problems. 3 Likes |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by gidgiddy: 3:36pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
Roger3D: Then that means that Gowon was at fault. When you sign an agreement, it is expected that carry out what you signed. If at a later date, you look at the agreement and decide to amend it, you must call all the parties together to do so. Nobody forced Gowon to sign the Aburi agreement. In fact, before signing it, the President of Ghana, General Ankrah, asked everybody if they were happy with what was agreed. They all said yes. So if Gowon came back home and decided to back on what he signed, blame Gowon and not Ojukwu. |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by gidgiddy: 3:43pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
Naajjii: Try to be reasonable in what you are saying. The coup is not the root cause of the problems of Nigeria today and neither was it what caused the abolishment of the Regions. There was mutual suspicion and hate even before the coup. The Jos riots of 1945 where Easterners were targeted and the Kano massacre of 1953 are clear examples that we did not trust each other before the coup. The abolishment of the 4 existing regions was the work of Gowon on behalf of the North So they could implement 'divide and rule' |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Nobody: 4:04pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
fiizznation: Who and which people are respecting him 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Roger3D(m): 4:05pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
gidgiddy:Im not here to blqme anybody. I'm just saying that Gowon acted in Nigeria's best interests by refusing to implement the Aburi accord. 1 Like |
Re: Aguiyi-Ironsi With Ojukwu, Gowon, Hassan Katsina, David Ejoor & Wey. Throwback by Naajjii: 4:07pm On Aug 11, 2018 |
gidgiddy:In 1947 Mr. Charles Dadi Onyeama a member of the Central Legislative Council representing Enugu at Igbo State Union address that ‘’the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbo is only a matter of time’’ Zik - ‘’god of the Igbo’’ eventually giving them the leadership of Nigeria and Africa. July 1948 at igbo state state union. 1 Like |
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