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Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:04pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Come on. Don't be dodgy. Are you saying that there is nothing universally agreed upon as good? 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:06pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor:okay, so is there any manmade law against that? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 7:08pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I just showed u what os universally good. Ur intention was to show there was nothing as such. All i did was to rebutt it An there are many more of such 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:08pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:I am an atheist and I believe in the immaterial. I believe the immaterial is an extension or a product of the material. As Plato would call it, the pure atom. Consciousness for example is immaterial but stems from a physical brain. But how is that possible For the fact that we are a biological system, there would be a need to maintain homeostasis in the system. So special organs were designed by nature to help us do that. But another organ controls all these other organs (brain) which relates the information to us. And it does this through neuron actions. Of course we can't see the message but we know the mechanism it is transmitted. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by Ermacc: 7:09pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:so if the law of the land has absolutely no problem with murder, its okay by you? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:09pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: I seem to have lost you "binding" laws doesn't have to be "absolute" it seems you're confusing both what's "binding" in Lagos might not be in Kano |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:10pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor:maybe you should follow the discussion from the beginning |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:11pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:Waw. I'm shocked. Really man |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:12pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
Ermacc:if I rape your virgin sister who doesn't love me, pay your parents money and marry her, is it okay by you? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:13pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:Jesus!!! Did u even read what I wrote? I said we choose our purpose. They are not integrated into us. God gave man freewill yet he has a purpose for us You still don't see the inconsistencies right? 2 Likes |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:13pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Is giving to charity good? If yes, who pronounced it absolutely good? It cannot be a group of persons because each of them is just of the opinion that charity is good. That the opinions of 5 or 10 or 1 millon persons are coincidentally the same does not turn what could be a relative(giving charity) into a moral absolute. 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by Ermacc: 7:15pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ValentineMary:there's no point arguing with an atheist who is certain we are a product of evolution, atleast some others give the smart reply "i dont know' when they realise evolution is a scam. Its amazing how you feel nature is the architect behind the complicated orderliness of the universe. I'm sure nature in its mighty wisdom gave us conscience too. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 7:16pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I followed it. A sincere atheist does not indulge in morality arguments because it negates their arguments hands down. All laws that exist today in all nations are copies of religious text in one way or the other. Arguments from liberals and people over time is what has even made it to make them look subjective. Morality is not an atheist discussion. 3 Likes |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:16pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:You put up arguments without knowing the basis and where it would eventually lead to. Hmm |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by Ermacc: 7:19pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:I didnt tell you i'm absolutely compliant with the laws. But it will be okay with you since you are. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:19pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
Ermacc:Waw. Evolution is a scam right Good. Pls explain drug resistance in organisms or gene modifications in virus without using evolution. Thanks |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:19pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: I'm afraid I don't know where you're getting at here |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:20pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
Ermacc: how can you not be? so what do you base your morals on? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:21pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ValentineMary:Life, then, is utimately purposeless. We are on earth for no reason. That's what you mean. Life is meaningless. We only struggle to give it meaning. Nice and healthy view. God gave man freewill yet he has a purpose for us You still don't see the inconsistencies right?I can have a purpose for my son: to make him a medical doctor. But then he can choose to be a lawyer. You now see what freewill is? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:24pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ValentineMary, please don't derail this thread by bringing in talks about evolution. Please, refute the OP or go to another thread. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:26pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor: I disagree that all laws are based on copies of religious texts, what religious text is Chinese law based upon? what of Germany? what religious law is Nigeria morals based upon |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:28pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:The truth is bitter right? Yes life is meaningless. But it is the purpose we as conscious animals attach to life that makes it beautiful. Yes u can. But do u know the future No. Does ur said God know the future? Yes. So if God knows that his purpose would fall through, yet he goes ahead to give someone a purpose which he knows would eventually fail. I don't know how u still don't see the inconsistencies here man. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by ValentineMary(m): 7:30pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:This would inevitably lead to evolution. Once u say stuffs like material and immaterial. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 7:30pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Do a little research, Nigerian Constitution was copied from british Of course british was gotten from Christian/Judaism laws and likewise other european nations, also likewise america......etc The list goes on... Good and evil stems from religion Overtime, arguments from liberals is what has even made some little changes... Atheism has no business with good and evil. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:33pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
ValentineMary: How can GOD tamper with what you want to do just because He knows the future? That GOD knows that mr. A would end up in hell: does it mean GOD is the reason why mr. A will enter hell? especially when GOD made available chances for mr. A to avoid hell, and that people go to hell based on what they do? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:35pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor: I asked for the Chinese too for a reason atheism has no business with "absolute morality", know the difference |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 7:36pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor: Which part of the US Constitution was gotten from Christian /Judaism? Did you just make this one up as usual? 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 7:42pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: But wait, are u aware china and other asian likes has produced some of the worst atheist mass murderers in human history? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:43pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
felixomor: I asked a simple question don't throw red herrings |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 7:43pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
No "atheist" has been able to give us the reason why rape or murder is bad absolutely. Could it be that they are not really moral subjectivists as they claim? 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by hopefulLandlord: 7:44pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: define murder |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 7:47pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: We r discussing good and evil And u r using a country that a will defeat your morality argument... Or have u forgotten the defense u people put up when a thread was opened on atheist mass murderers? By the way, chinese religions which are mainly 3 contributed to the laws.. What next? |
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