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| US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 6:20pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
WARSAW, Poland — American soldiers rolled into Poland on Thursday, fulfilling a dream some Poles have had since the fall of communism in 1989 to have U.S. troops on their soil as a deterrent against Russia. Some people waved and held up American flags as U.S. troops in tanks and other vehicles crossed into southwestern Poland from Germany and headed toward the town of Zagan, where they will be based. Poland's prime minister and defense minister will welcome them in an official ceremony Saturday. [b]"This is the fulfilment of a dream," said Michal Baranowski, director of the German Marshall Fund think tank in Warsaw. "And this is not just a symbolic presence but one with a real capability." U.S. and other Western nations have carried out exercises on NATO's eastern flank in past years, but the new deployment — which includes some 3,500 U.S. troops — marks the first-ever continuous deployment to the region by a NATO ally. It is part of a larger commitment by President Barack Obama to protect a region that grew deeply nervous when Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and then began backing separatist rebels in Ukraine's east. There are fears, however, that the enhanced security could eventually be undermined by the pro-Kremlin views of President-elect Donald Trump. Poland and the Baltic states also feel threatened by Russia's recent deployment of nuclear-capable Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad, the Russian territory wedged between Poland and Lithuania. But Russia says it's the one who is threatened. "These actions threaten our interests, our security," President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday. "Especially as it concerns a third party building up its military presence near our borders. It's not even a European state." Worries about the permanence of the new U.S. security commitments are rooted in a tragic national history in which Poland has often lost out in deals made by the great powers. Poles still feel betrayed by Obama's "reset" with Russia early on in his administration, which involved abandoning plans for a major U.S. missile defense system in Poland and replacing it with plans for a less ambitious system, still not in place. "All recent U.S. presidents have thought there can be a grand bargain with Russia," said Marcin Zaborowski, a senior associate at Visegrad Insight, an analytic journal on Central Europe. "Trump has a proclivity to make deals, and Central and Eastern Europe have reason to worry about that." Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski expressed hope this week that any new effort at reconciliation with Russia "does not happen at our expense." The armored brigade combat team arriving in Poland hails from Fort Carson, Colorado. The troops arrived last week in Germany and are gathering in Poland before units will fan out across seven countries from Estonia to Bulgaria. A headquarters unit will be stationed in Germany. After nine months they will be replaced by another unit. In a separate but related mission, NATO will also deploy four battalions to its eastern flank later this year, one each to Poland and the three Baltic states. The U.S. will also lead one of those battalions. Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow contributed to this report. [/b] http://www.msn.com/?ocid=wispr&pc=u477 |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 6:21pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Vladimir putin already shaking like a leaf.  Most powerful man indeed. |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 6:33pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Imagine, Some european nations like poland have been praying for the arrival of US troops since the 80s just to obtain protection from russian aggression. Russia has turned europe into a eurozone of paranoia. But thank God for America. Let me see the demon that would possess putin to misbehave beyond his boundaries like he did in Ukraine  2 Likes |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by melvinjames: 6:40pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Trump won't like this, he's friends with Russia. |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 6:49pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
melvinjames:There is only so much trump can do. The US congress is there to see things through. A president of america can never be friends with Russia, interests will inevitably clash and trump will soon realize this. There can never be two captains in a ship.  |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by melvinjames: 6:54pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55:I couldn't agree more |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by Bari22: 6:55pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55:I agree with u this friendship can not go anywhere, trump is just fooling himself |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by OAUTemitayo: 7:07pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
I hope each is accompanied by a bodybag. Keep deceiving yourself. All they need is one Iskandeer. 4 Likes |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 7:11pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
OAUTemitayo:Iskander ko, iskander ni. Atleast two members of NATO minus the United states, have nuclear weapons. For every one iskander, Russia is getting 3 in return from NATO. |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by softmind24: 7:12pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
They should stop all this play and fight Am tired of Nlander pro America and pro Russia I want to see who is more powerful in real fight not all this propaganda |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by darknetcom: 7:37pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55: this is a dangerous move and you are happy... america will get it sooner or later... nobody made them to the police of the world... they should fvck off,keep shvt and stay on their stolen ground till the native indians throw them out.. europeans playing americans... americans are europeans..russians know this fact.. russians are not stvpid like black white-brainwashed strange people... |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 7:46pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
darknetcom:I am not even going to try to educate you. who are you counting on to stop america? Poland that invited them are not human beings abi? You think the fears of a sovereign nation over russian aggression are rational or noble? |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by darknetcom: 8:04pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55: first go read why the polish are pissed off with the russians.. the polish are similar in culture to the russians.. they happen too be somewhat half germans and half russians.. . igbo call this type of people osus.. i call them halfcast,mullatos...just white...its a culture thing.. not all polish people hate russians...always keep that in mind... |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by darknetcom: 8:07pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55: i have nothing against you for supporting america..your choice... but its important to know history...less wahala... |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 8:14pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
darknetcom:And more nonsense . How does this invalidate the wish of a sovereign nation for US troops?. Why should poland look out for russian interests when russia is more or less a threat and america is offering the better deal. If for example you were a patriotic pole, would you not want the US on your side to deter russia a neighbouring bully? |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 8:16pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
darknetcom:Thousands of your afonja brothers and sisters are in the US having a better life . Tell them to go to russia and see if they will not curse you. 1 Like |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by darknetcom: 8:26pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55: okay..are you commenting from america??.. |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 8:28pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
darknetcom:Are you a terrorist? |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by darknetcom: 8:49pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
cstr55: define terrorist??... |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 9:03pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
darknetcom:Look at this afonja. |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by bonechamberlain(m): 11:51pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Nonsense US belligerence and Sabre rattling, this is still Obama antics and ploy of putting Trump in a difficult situation. By now I believe the US should know that it can never, can never defeat a superior nuclear power like Russia. All these are just Sabre rattling. Europe also by now should know that if a war with Russia should happen, for Russia to loose, the whole of Europe would be wiped out from the map of the world. Who gains? The US. Russia is never a threat to Europe. The US would do the same thing Russia did in Ukraine if it was in their backyard. The Europeans have chosen to be foolish thinking the US is fighting for their interests, the US if fighting for its own interest. I trust Trump to be wise. As he is against these demonic war mongers and evil hawks looking for where to cause chaos 1 Like |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by OAUTemitayo: 2:49am On Jan 13, 2017 |
cstr55:Mumu Factorial. Keep on deceiving yourself. 1 Like |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by OFFICIAL336: 8:22am On Jan 13, 2017 |
cstr55:US will only scale up their military around Russia but will never dare Russia. Like Russia said, Europe is never a problem because one missile will solve that. Russia is more advanced in nuclear weaponry than US. Bulk of US' missiles are still the 1960 class. US has limited capability to hit Moscow from US, they will have to move some missiles to Europe, but Russia can hit Washington directly from Moscow, this is the reason why Washington is littering Europe with their anti-missile defence which is a threat to Russian missile's in early flight. But the Sarmat missile, the most devastating missile ever built was specifically designed to invade those petty defence system and capable of wiping out entire France and NY. Because of Russian 'Hit First' military policy, Europe will surrender to Russia even before US mobilize fully for war. US most lethal missile is the Minutesman 3 introduced in 1970, carrying just a single warhead. US can not lay waste a single continent (maybe except Africa) but Russia can. Out of the 50 most lethal ICBMs, Russian missiles occupy position 1-22. That is, the world top 22 Missiles are Russian operated, while US' Minuteman 3 occupies the 23rd position. The UK's most advanced Trident 3 occupies the 32nd position, France M4, 33rd position, China's DF-5, 37th position, Isreal's Jericho 3, 49th position. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ICBMs?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C5914564774 "We love accuracy." Lewis (Dr. Jeffrey Lewis, the founding publisher of Arms Control Wonk) says the US's ideal nuke is "a tiny little nuclear weapon we'll fly right through the window and blow up the building." Meanwhile, the Russians would rather put 10 warheads on the building and level the whole city, civilians and all. "You see it in Syria, that's how they show it off," Lewis said of Russia's air campaign in Syria, where Moscow has been accused of using cluster bombs, incendiary munitions, and indiscriminately bombing hospitals and refugee camps. This careless and brutal attitude is a defining trait of Russia's military. For instance, Russia's leaked Status 6 nuclear "doomsday" weapon, a "robotic mini-submarine" that can make 100 knots with a range of 6,200 miles is a nuclear-armed dirty bomb. The bomb would not only nuke, but turn the waters around a harbor radioactive for years to come. The US never even considers this kind of devastation, and they don't want to. http://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-russia-nuclear-weapons-2016-9 2 Likes |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by seunny4lif(m): 2:03pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
 I even watched the senate and US general meeting They are saying the same thing Lewis said Lewis explained that the US really can't defend against Russia's most advanced, diabolical nuclear weapons as "the problem is just that the math never works." A Russian nuclear ICBM would blast into orbit, turn around, break into individual reentry vehicles, and drive towards their individual targets at Mach 23. The US simply can't afford or design a system that would destroy ten nuclear warheads traveling at those mind-bending speed toward the the US. "[The US has] never scaled a missile defense to the size of a Russian attack. It sounds like a really great idea on paper, but when you’re looking at 1000 warheads…" Another possible solution would be to destroy the missiles before they exit the atmosphere, but that means shooting them down over Russia, which presents its own problems. OFFICIAL336: |
| Re: US Troops Enter Poland, 1st Deployment At Russia's Doorstep. by cstr55: 2:07pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
seunny4lif:And what is Russia's defence against US and NATO nuclear ICBMs.? |
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