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| A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 6:57pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
According to creationists, the first man was made from clay. Science and religion arguably agrees on this. The carbon based human body is a limitation to our very existence. We are confined to planet earth, we can't even survive outside her atmosphere without supplements. We live a regimented life, we can't pass through walls, run at devastating speeds, float in air e.t.c. The planet earth is just one of the billions of planet in the milky way galaxy, also, the milky way galaxy is just one of the billions of galaxies in the ever expanding universe. These beg the question; ARE WE ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE? So far today, the official answer we've got to the above question is; YES WE ARE ALONE (at least, according to science). We live in a world where science have answers to almost every phenomena, from sleep paralysis, gravity, dark matter, UFOs e.t.c. No place for religion, myths, folklores. Every theory must be scientifically proven. If science could not understand gravity, dark matter and quantum field behaviours fully well, how is it supposed to explain the existence of JINNS. Throughout history, man has always had a deep attraction for the supernatural and the unseen. All cultures and peoples, without exception, have beliefs and experiences of the existence of extraterrestrial beings be they called "ghosts, spirits, aliens, demons, etc." In the Arabic culture, these extraterrestrial beings have been given the name "Jinn" and are believed to be invisible creatures that possess superhuman powers and even the ability to possess human beings. While the above paragraph would be written off as "non-sense" or "tall tales" by most modern critics, we are confronted with a clear reason for examination since God's Scripture indeed confirms the existence of these extraterrestrial beings known as Jinn! No religion in the world except Islam has the concept of Jinn. On Earth all life is made of Carbon and water. Living things on Earth need energy for their activities. Some of these activities are chemical reactions, which need a supply of energy. This supply of energy comes from the foods we eat, particularly the sugars. Fat is also a source of (stored) energy. When sugars (glucose) are oxidized with oxygen they are converted into water, carbon dioxide and energy. This is a process called respiration. Similarly creatures elsewhere in the universe such as the sun or stars need energy. For those in the sun, the sun itself supplies the energy. "I did not create the Jinn and the humans except to serve Me." (51:56) "Indeed We created man from dried clay of black smooth mud. And We created the Jinn before that from the smokeless flame of fire" (Surah Al-Hijr 15:26-27) Who are the JINNS? Based on the laws of Physics and Chemistry scientists argue the existence of creatures in the sun. The outermost part of the sun is called the Chromosphere and Corona. The temperature here is 4000 degrees centigrade. Underneath the corona lies the Photosphere where the temperature is 5700 degrees centigrade which is the temperature on the surface of the sun. Inside the Photosphere lies the Plasma Interior. Here the temperature is 30,000 degrees centigrade. At this temperature the atoms lose their electrons which wander freely. The density of the hot gases is equal to that of air at the surface of Earth. Halfway towards the center of the sun the temperature rises to several million degrees centigrade. Here the electrons are completely removed from their atoms and move freely, leaving the atomic nuclei behind as positively charged Ions. These separated positive and negative (ions) move independently of each other and this state of matter is called Plasma. Plasma could be interpreted as the smokeless Fire described in the Qur'an. At the center of the sun is the core where the temperature reaches ten million degrees and the density is five times greater than that of solid gold. That is the density of the core, which is greater than any material found on Earth. In the core the nuclear fusion reactions occur resulting in the fusion of hydrogen nuclei into Helium nuclei plus liberation of energy which we receive as the sunlight. The Hydrogen Bomb works based on nuclear fusion whereas the Atomic Bomb works based on nuclear fission (splitting of the atomic nucleus). Scientists (G. Feinberg and R.Shapiro, LIFE BEYOND EARTH Published by William Morrow and Co., Inc., New York, 1980) predict that there is the highest probability of finding life in the Plasma of our Sun or any star. They call these creatures as Plasmabeasts. Plasmabeasts can be construed as nothing but the Jinns. Life on Earth is called Chemical life, whereas the life in the Plasma of the Sun is based on Physical life. In the Plasma, the positively charged ions and the freely floating electrons (negative ions) are both acted on by intense magnetic forces present in the sun (star). The Jinns are interpreted to be composed of patterns of magnetic force, together with groups of moving charges in a kind of symbiosis. The possible inhabitants of Plasmaland (place of inhabitants) or Jinns have a more complex basis for their life involving charges as well as magnetic forces. The positive and negative ions interact and respond to the presence of magnetic forces. The stable structure and movement of the Jinns is influenced by the magnetic forces. In Physics we know that the moving charges influence the motion of these electrical charges or ions. This situation is similar to the influence of proteins and nucleic acids in Earth life. Finally these processes result in a favored form. For this to take place supply of free energy is required which is obtained from the flow of radiation within the sun. Therefore the Jinn can be construed to use radiant energy in their vital processes. Next we look at their abilities and also how they may change or has been changing human history. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 7:20pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
Abilities. That which clearly distinguishes the Jinn from mankind, are their powers and abilities. Since the jinns are made from plasma, plasma is energy matter that makes-up 99% of the known universe. The description the Quran gives of Jinn being made from a 'smokeless fire' fits perfectly with this energy matter which is present but is not always possible to view with the naked eye. "Plasma is by far the most common form of matter known. Plasma in the stars and in the tenuous space between them make up over 99% of the visible universe and perhaps most of that which is not visible. Putting this into consideration, travelling in space should not be a problem for the jinns. Maybe they also exhibit quantum entanglement, maybe warp drive, maybe teleportation, all these looks plausible given the fact that they are traveling in a medium they are made from. One thing is certain, they travel at devastating speed, Faster Than Light speed (FTL) Apart front he fact that they are invisible to the naked eye, they travel at FTL, they also are great sea divers, they can shape shift and have the ability to posses and control almost every human. The Quran made us understand that the jinns also live in a world like humans, we have the good ones, the bad ones, the doctor, lawyers, astronauts, engineers, scientist etc. they have their own NASA, MUSK etc. their world is parallel to ours. They can make themselves visible to our naked eyes if they want 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 7:46pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
Let's imagine creatures with these kind of abilities, let's imagine them making interstellar travels. It wouldn't be too difficult for them I think. Maybe they have a technology better than the Alcubierre drive. Could the so called UFOs be their ships? Are we searching the right place for extraterrestrials. Here are some certainties; We are not alone There are creatures whose building blocks differ from ours They are technologically/scientifically ahead of us. Cc johnydon22, Robinhez, blackjwelry, teempakguy, dekatron, Loj, sukkot, seun, valentinemary and other sciencelanders Sources: forum.davidicke.com, irfi.org, ufoinfo.org, speedo flight.info 1 Like |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 8:13pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:hmmm good questions. now when we look at the etymology of that word we start to see that we have been bamboozled and programmed to think it is what it is not. there are two spheres, the celestial and then the terrestrial. the celestial is someone that can perceive things beyond this 3 dimensional existence we exist in while the terrestrial is someone whose perceptions and reality is stuck in this 3D existence. now to be extra-terrestrial means you are the lowest of beings and not an advanced being. so the etymology and indoctrination has gotten people bamboozled as to what an extra-terrestrial is. extra-terrestrials are humans. we are low level beings. we are the extra-terrestrials.  where did you get your perception of what an extra-terrestrial is ? from hollywood movies ? see we have all been programmed and we are operating on someone elses perception of things. point being humans are the extra-terrestrials |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:04pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Lol, 'extraterrestrial' does not necessarily separate us into levels, it is just used to describe life forms from another dimension, to them, we are ET, JUST AS THEY ARE TO US TOO. On being indoctrinated, I think science just can't deal with the supernatural, our limited human perception will always work against us. Just as an ant will never know of the existence of a planet named Jupiter, the human brain might not be able to process strange phenomena. We will never move beyond human level of intelligence. It is fixed |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:13pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:you fail to realize all the dimensions exist concurrently in all places and that this our sphere of existence is not compartmentalized and separate from other cosmic existence . the dimensions are electromagnetic frequencies of information. parallel universes running concurrently on this planet. not every human you see walking around is on the same dimension as you. well most humans are in the same dimensions but there are a few celestial beings walking amongst us whose soul syncs with higher dimensions. its called parallel universe running concurrently which negates your other point where you said we will never move beyond human level of intelligence. that may be so for most but there are a few who are endowed with the ability to move beyond human level of intelligence. these are CHRIST-LIKE beings |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:26pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Gravitational waves,dark matter and jinns makes the theory of parallel universe is plausible. From my earlier post, I said jinns can possess and control humans. They may cross to our dimension and help in our scientific/technological breakthrough. They are here already, and I believe those they are working with are very aware of who and what they are. Independently, humans will never go beyond our level of intelligence. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:28pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:requote the post again, its corrected. i was incoherent at the beginning of the post due to a mistake  |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:31pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:well you do fail to realize that humans are simply biological computers. we are spiritual beings having a physical 3 dimensional existence but we are not our bodies. our bodies are just avatars for this 3 Dimensional world we exist in. so technically there is no such thing as ' a human level of intelligence '. its an oxymoron and a fallacy however the rest of the post is on point 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:32pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Gravitational waves,dark matter and jinns makes the theory of parallel universe plausible. From my earlier post, I said jinns can possess and control humans. They may cross to our dimension and help in our scientific/technological breakthrough. They are here already, and I believe those they are working with are very aware of who and what they are. Independently, humans will never go beyond our level of intelligence. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:38pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
and to further buttress my point that there is no such thing as a human level of intelligence i will tell you about this guy in london, you put him in a helicopter for 30 minutes and fly all over london and he can re-create in drawing every single thing he saw down to the number of windows etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqRT_kCOLI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-73DQ1hLsDY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQbI2MvJegA |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:40pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Hehe, there you go again. humans are limited in every aspect of our existence. Be it conscious, sub-conscious, unconscious or spiritual. There is always a limitation to what we can achieve at these level, there is a limitation to where we can reach at this level. We were designed like that. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:42pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:watch the 3 videos i posted and you will change your mind immediately. they are very short videos |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by iykekelvins(m): 9:42pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Wow, now that's amazing talent. There are some humans that can literally be called Super Humans. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:44pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
iykekelvins:exactly bro. you see the light. not all humans are the same. well most are but there are ' super-humans ' amongst us |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:47pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Of course, I've seen his documentary. He's dubbed the human camera. It still has a limit, tell him to draw a terrace he has never seen. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:47pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOWL8aeS74 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWTeSvCOFyE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95L-zmIBGd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZISZtsojOs 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by iykekelvins(m): 9:48pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot:True that. I've watched documentaries about 'Savants'.. Could these people also be seen as Super? Like they could do extra ordinary things, but either they got those abilities thru an accident or a deformity. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:50pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: I've seen the one of a lady with x-ray visions, man who climbed Kilimanjaro with no clothes on and many more. These situations are manifestations of jinns in human life form. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:51pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
iykekelvins:they are definitely SUPER. these are human avatars who have the capability to tap into a greater portion of their celestial side than most. like they say humans only use 3 percent of their brain ? these savants use like 40 percent if not more |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:52pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:when you say jinn you mean voodoo ? what exactly is your definition of a jinn ? |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by iykekelvins(m): 9:55pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot:40 percent? Damn!! Honestly, their abilities blow my mind!! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:55pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:a terrace he has never seen wouldnt exist in his sphere. everything done is done as a repetition of something and how efficiently you do it is what distinguishes but you have to have a perception of it first. nobody will ask you to recreate something you have never seen. thats not a limitation but an irrational task |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 9:58pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
iykekelvins:yeah not all humans are created equal |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 9:59pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Hahahaha, voodoo keh. I already gave you the definition of jinns up there. They are creatures made from smokeless fire. They live just as we live. They can shape-shift, be visible or invisible, possess and control some humans e.t.c. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 10:03pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:OK I can appreciate the esoteric understanding of what you just wrote up there. fire and smoke denotes tribulation and pain and suffering so being created from a smokeless fire denotes a christ-like being whom GOD is at peace with and is not under any tribulations or afflictions and has been endowed with celestial powers. i can appreciate the esoteric nature of your post. hopefully you are not presenting your post literally lol  |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 10:06pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Hahaha, how about humans prophesising events that have never happened? You don't seem to get my analogy, he is undoubtedly gifted, these beings can manifest themselves in different ways. To human perception, all these are weird and he is super. It's all a limited existence. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 10:07pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
sukkot: Hahaha.. You are a troll walahi |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by iykekelvins(m): 10:08pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
Dynamo, the magician was accused of working with Jinns. Now, they were seeing these Jinns to be demonic of some sort.. Is it true? |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 10:13pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:GOD does take over peoples spirit and passes messages through them. unless of course it is GOD you are referring to when you say JINN |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by bqlekan(m): 10:13pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
iykekelvins:all demons are jinns, but not all jinns are demons. Like I stated earlier, there are good and bad jinns. Okay here is an explanation. Take the earth as a whole, replace every humans with jinns,. You will end up with different races of jinns with different believes and religions. The jinn world is just like us. They interact with some humans among us. |
| Re: A Critical Look At Extraterrestrials, Jinns And Science. by sukkot: 10:15pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
bqlekan:NAH LOL not on an intellectual thread like this I dont troll. I only troll on useless retarded frontpage posts about celebrities and other useless mind-numbing topics. |
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