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Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by uvalued(m): 11:32pm On Jan 29, 2017
Sman37:


ok Exodus 22:20 did the same check it out

Nop u get it all wrong go to Quran chap 60 verse 1-10 it says......

and those verses u qoute are not the original Allah word (in Arabic) but a translator doing is best and translate it to english
that is y Jeremia 8:8 condem bibles check it out it says

◄ Jeremiah 8:8

Parallel Verses
New International Version
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for
we have the law of the LORD," when
actually the lying pen of the scribes has
handled it falsely?
New Living Translation
"'How can you say, "We are wise
because we have the word of the
LORD," when your teachers have
twisted it by writing lies?

◄ Exodus 22:20

Parallel Verses
New International Version
"Whoever sacrifices to any god other
than the LORD must be destroyed.
New Living Translation
"Anyone who sacrifices to any god
other than the LORD must be
destroyed.

hahaha you brought up ex 22..



Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.




question do we christian offer animal sacrifice again...no no no so why should we destroy..


now since you claim that that is not what was written in the true arabic koran do tell us the true interpretation of Quran chap 60 verse 1-10.

are you using jer 8:8 to support koran or what.. pls explain...
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by Sman37(m): 11:37pm On Jan 29, 2017
uvalued:


pls can you educate me... are you a muslim or infidel if you ARE friends with jew and christian...



okay my observation is this... how will my knowing the OT help the muslim dilema who claims he is a muslim and a friend of infidels and allah will not throw him in hell for disobeying clear cut commands..

and since allah cannot change his word, it therefore means that you ad all those "nice carring muslims" are DISOBEYING allah is it not so... and allah brought infidel trump as a prophet to show arabs that they should stay back in their holy lands but aclu is resisting allah s will

Quran 60:9 Translated


(60:9) Allah only forbids you to be
friends with those who have fought
against you on account of religion
and who have driven you out of
your homes and have abetted in
your expulsion. And any who make
friends with them, they are the
wrong-doers.13
13. The instructions to sever relations
with the disbelievers given in the
preceding verses, could cause the
people the misunderstanding that this
was because of their being the
disbelievers. Therefore, in these verses
it has been made clear that its real
cause is not their disbelief but their
hostility to Islam and their tyrannical
treatment of the followers of Islam.
The Muslims, therefore, should
distinguish between the hostile
disbeliever and the nonhostile
disbeliever, and should treat those
disbelievers well who have never
treated them with evil. Its best
explanation is the incident that took
place between Asma, daughter of Abu
Bakr, and her disbelieving mother
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by Sman37(m): 11:46pm On Jan 29, 2017
uvalued:


hahaha you brought up ex 22..

question do we christian offer animal sacrifice again...no no no so why should we destroy..


now since you claim that that is not what was written in the true arabic koran do tell us the true interpretation of Quran chap 60 verse 1-10.

are you using jer 8:8 to support koran or what.. pls explain...

nop Jeremiah 8:8 insult u and condem bibles that is law ar now lies hannn get it??


Quran 60:9 Translated
(60:9) Allah only forbids you to be
friends with those who have fought
against you on account of religion
and who have driven you out of
your homes and have abetted in
your expulsion. And any who make
friends with them, they are the
wrong-doers.13
13. The instructions to sever relations
with the disbelievers given in the
preceding verses, could cause the
people the misunderstanding that this
was because of their being the
disbelievers. Therefore, in these verses
it has been made clear that its real
cause is not their disbelief but their
hostility to Islam and their tyrannical
treatment of the followers of Islam.
The Muslims, therefore, should
distinguish between the hostile
disbeliever and the nonhostile
disbeliever, and should treat those
disbelievers well who have never
treated them with evil. Its best
explanation is the incident that took
place between Asma, daughter of Abu
Bakr, and her disbelieving mother
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by Sman37(m): 11:49pm On Jan 29, 2017
uvalued:


hahaha you brought up ex 22..

question do we christian offer animal sacrifice again...no no no so why should we destroy..

[/qoute]
it said killd those who are noth christians read it again??

now since you claim that that is not what was written in the true arabic koran do tell us the true interpretation of Quran chap 60 verse 1-10.

are you using jer 8:8 to support koran or what.. pls explain...

[/qoute]
nop Jeremiah 8:8 insult u and condem bibles that is law ar now lies hannn get it??


Quran 60:9 Translated
(60:9) Allah only forbids you to be
friends with those who have fought
against you on account of religion
and who have driven you out of
your homes and have abetted in
your expulsion. And any who make
friends with them, they are the
wrong-doers.13
13. The instructions to sever relations
with the disbelievers given in the
preceding verses, could cause the
people the misunderstanding that this
was because of their being the
disbelievers. Therefore, in these verses
it has been made clear that its real
cause is not their disbelief but their
hostility to Islam and their tyrannical
treatment of the followers of Islam.
The Muslims, therefore, should
distinguish between the hostile
disbeliever and the nonhostile
disbeliever, and should treat those
disbelievers well who have never
treated them with evil. Its best
explanation is the incident that took
place between Asma, daughter of Abu
Bakr, and her disbelieving mother
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by uvalued(m): 11:59pm On Jan 29, 2017
Sman37:

To uderstant Quran u most learn it properly from arabic but well

Quran 60:4 it tranlate as read follows

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
There has already been for you an
excellent pattern in Abraham and those
with him, when they said to their
people, "Indeed, we are disassociated
from you and from whatever you
worship other than Allah . We have
denied you, and there has appeared
between us and you animosity and
hatred forever until you believe in
Allah alone" except for the saying of
Abraham to his father, "I will surely ask
forgiveness for you, but I have not
[power to do] for you anything against
Allah . Our Lord, upon You we have
relied, and to You we have returned,
and to You is the destination.
ar its normal in book to start with fight sentece but befor the sentecevor paragraph end u will see its agains those who fight or violate

Quran is made of 4 features
1= the past (generation)
2= the present (generation)
4= the future or yet to happen messages or generation
5= the Heaven or Paradis and Hell (Day of judgement)
so for u to learn it u must go to Islamic studies
that is y u see many Arabic Islamic schools
in all part of muslims world to learn it proper meanings

but unlike bibles we only have the translated to english ones
that is y Jeremia 8:8 says.....

◄ Jeremiah 8:8

Parallel Verses
New International Version
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for
we have the law of the LORD," when
actually the lying pen of the scribes has
handled it falsely?
New Living Translation
"'How can you say, "We are wise
because we have the word of the
LORD," when your teachers have
twisted it by writing lies?

haha i ask you on koran 5:51 and 5:80


SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

you bring up koran60 so what gives ...? address this verse in the true arqbic context..

secondly, i copied the koran 5:51 from the same source as you did so fair enough this must be the true arabic translation
https://quran.com/5/51

reading thru you 60 which you quote..


Indeed, we are disassociated
from you and from whatever you
worship other than Allah . We have
denied you, and there has appeared
between us and you animosity and
hatred forever until you believe in
Allah alone"


this part supports koran 5:51 there is hatred to jews and christian FOREVER thus implying every jew ad christian past,present ad future is hated by allah ...

why should i go to islamic school when i have you to explain the verses you learnt in shool on how jews and christians are hated forever.
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by uvalued(m): 12:08am On Jan 30, 2017
on jer 8:8 let me give you the benefit of doubt, how will the "bible insult the bible" cause me not to be friends with jews and christian..

can we see evidence of the verse in our day and age



Indeed, we are disassociated
from you and from whatever you
worship other than Allah . We have
denied you, and there has appeared
between us and you animosity and
hatred forever until you believe in
Allah alone"


Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Quran (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by Rilwan20(m): 4:50am On Jan 30, 2017
samsam2019:
and then you open your gutter mouth to call people ingrates.



Please tell me what islam has brought to this planet except evil and terror.



Tell me one benefit of islam aside hatred and kilkings
How on earth can I tell you the benefit when you such a narrow minded human being?

You have concluded that there isn't any benefit in practicing so its of no use to orientate you.

One thing I know for sure is I know much more about your religion, perhaps because of where I grew up and my education background but you are just a sheer ignoramus when we're talking about Islam. Even in your religion, apparently your knowledge is restricted to the chapters your pastor preach(average African ain't objective) your thought have been configured.
If you are ready to a learn, just walk to a store and pick up the English version of Qu'ran, perhaps you can learn the ABC of it. A part doesn't represent a whole.
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by Sman37(m): 6:43am On Jan 30, 2017
uvalued:


haha i ask you on koran 5:51 and 5:80


you bring up koran60 so what gives ...? address this verse in the true arqbic context..

secondly, i copied the koran 5:51 from the same source as you did so fair enough this must be the true arabic translation
https://quran.com/5/51

reading thru you 60 which you quote..



this part supports koran 5:51 there is hatred to jews and christian FOREVER thus implying every jew ad christian past,present ad future is hated by allah ...

why should i go to islamic school when i have you to explain the verses you learnt in shool on how jews and christians are hated forever.
Thank u for ur time
am also.a learner of Quran
that is y i told u Quran has part
ar times the message is for when Muslim find their selves in war but we ar forbid to start war excep the followings happen
Qura'an 60:8_9

Basic Law Regulating Relations With
Unbelievers
[60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from
befriending those who do not fight you
because of religion, and do not evict
you from your homes. You may
befriend them and be equitable
towards them. GOD loves the
equitable.
[60:9] GOD enjoins you only from
befriending those who fight you
because of religion, evict you from
your homes, and band together with
others to banish you. You shall not
befriend them. Those who befriend
them are the transgressors.
(message) In Case of War
U dont expect ur combat enemy
to be friends in war ground, do u
[60:10] O you who believe, when
believing women (abandon the enemy
and) ask for asylum with you, you shall
test them. GOD is fully aware of their
belief. Once you establish that they are
believers, you shall not return them to
the disbelievers
Read that verse 60:8-9
u can see how Allah warn us not to even cheat disbelieveers who did not fight us for our religion islam!!

So the verse u qoute are translsted so but in term of war alone


pls go this website they will tell u how or about what the message is exactly for
and search and goodle can still link u up to them

www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=60
thank i believe now should uderstand war messages and love message in the Quran!!!
Re: ACLU Wins Legal Challenge Against Immigration Ban by AlwaysUltraPad: 8:47am On Apr 05, 2017
azeeza:
I am a muslim and I am not a terrorist!
you know what? Accept the terrorist tag and you won't be bothered about what they say to spite you as a Muslim. How can the victim of terrorism be described as terrorists themselves? It beats logic.

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