Krayola:

How does one "make" a religion?

jagunlabi:

It is a very creative endeavour, and it can be fun too.You can dress your god and religion any way you see fit.It is like creating a fictional story around a superhero.Comic book artists/storytellers do it all the time.

jagunlabi:

How?You create ideologies and myths to support your own personal fantasy/opinion of the ceator.

Krayola:

So u're pretty much saying someone, or a bunch of people,, sit in a room, make up some stuff, and come out and say "God said so"? Or u don't really think it's that simple?

Krayola:

I'm asking because while I agree with the core of what I think u are trying to say, I think the way this idea is usually presented distorts the reality of it and makes it all look like some kinda organized effort to "con" the masses. Though u haven't said that on this thread, but I have read, and in some cases, even made posts that suggest that.

Tudór:

Of course its an organised effort to con the masses!

Tudór:

Man created the gods to explain away all strange happenings in his environment before long figured this "powerful being" capable of such magical things should be able influence life in my favour.

Tudór:

Fear of "bad luck from the gods" began to be exploited by leaders who passed laws in the name of the gods or even sometimes declared themselves gods.

Tudór:

Do you really think moses parted the red sea or heard the voice of God on mount sainai?
Why would anyone make up such stories if not to deceive?

Krayola:

For example? Please give me an example of a god that was created just for the purpose of explaining something away.

From what I know dreams had something to do with the belief in the supernatural. It wasn't just some guy making stuff up to explain away things. it was people trying to reconcile unconscious "thoughts" (dreams) with reality, and from there the idea that everything was animated with spirit developed, and from there these ideas develop and keep evolving. For the most part they are sincere, honest attempts at explaining reality, based on the data available to them at the time. Man did not create gods out of nothing. . . .they had evidence pointing to the possibility of a reality different from what they experienced in regular states of consciousness. People would see dead relatives in dreams and wake up scared shitless. . . from there they would think it was someone trying to communicate with them from yonder. . . .bla bla bla,  people actually believed this stuff. It wasn't a conspiracy. It was just how people viewed the world back them.

[b]These things aren't black and white like that, And I think one of the problems is that when it is presented like this, people cant take it seriously. These people are products of their societies. Some are born into royalty and grow up believing they are descendants of gods. They really did believe that stuff. IT WASN'T, for the most part, SOME GUYS SITTING IN ROOMS TRYING TO DECEIVE PEOPLE!!!

YOu need to remember that this idea of perfect gods that do no wrong is a product of our own time. Back then gods had very human attributes. . .jealousy, lust, envy, greed etc. . .so that a king was not perfect in morality or virtue did nothing to diminish his "god' credentials.

Those stories were not intended to be taken literally. God parting the red sea just means God will take care of his own so that his will will be done regardless. Not saying I subscribe to these ideas, I'm just saying the traditions out of which they emerge don't take these things literally. It is the fundamentalist christian tradition that has severed itself from it's roots that mostly propagate all these fantastic stories as factual, and then run into problems trying to rationalize them.

Krayola:

How does one "make" a religion?

Say "God" were to "make" a religion, how would he do it?

Abuzola  1:

Allah is my God and your God

Abuzola 1:

You are so deluded, remain gullible

Krayola:

@Tudor,  U are not giving me anything to work with here,  I asked for examples and u are just saying the same stuff u say on every thread.  We live in the 21st century,  In those days there was no science,  That was how the world was believed to work. U have to learn to appreciate that. U can keep yelling that it was a con job but to me that makes little to no sense. These ideas evolve over millenia and are not invented by an individual or a group of individuals.

If u want to go around claiming all religions are con jobs, give us one example so we can dig into it and see how valid the charges are. . . The rest na stores 

Krayola:

@Tudor,  U are not giving me anything to work with here,  I asked for examples and u are just saying the same stuff u say on every thread.  We live in the 21st century,  In those days there was no science,  That was how the world was believed to work. U have to learn to appreciate that. U can keep yelling that it was a con job but to me that makes little to no sense. These ideas evolve over millenia and are not invented by an individual or a group of individuals.

If u want to go around claiming all religions are con jobs, give us one example so we can dig into it and see how valid the charges are. . . The rest na stores 

Abuzola 1:

Allah means God, you and your xtrian brothers re ignorance, it is so pathetic,

Abuzola 1:


Allah was not considered the sole divinity;