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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Mrabrakata: 10:09am On Feb 10, 2017
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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by breakeven: 10:10am On Feb 10, 2017
Kaduna is not safe. They are right. Southern kaduna loading............ undecided

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 10:22am On Feb 10, 2017
its shameful that kaduna state has a governor and the governor isnt concerned about ending the crisis in his state and salvaging the bag image associated with the state. its too bad o, which kind country be dis? are the leaders all retards?

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 10:24am On Feb 10, 2017
HAH:
Is ok now, let them land at any airport they want to, if they like they should land at ekiti airport then the passengers should take bus to Abuja, because no matter what threat the renovation will go on, is better to lose customer than lose lives

This is purely a business decision .

Kaduna is just 180Km away from Abuja
Kaduna has the fourth best runway in Nigeria
Kaduna has a dual carriage express way to Abuja
Kaduna has a standard fully air-conditioned train to Abuja, moving at a speed of 120km per hour and go as much as 200km per hr


Ethiopian airline and Egypt air have already erected their stand in kaduna airport, this boycott will be a gain to them
All roads leading from the airport to abuja have the most violent communities: Kawo, Rigasa, Tudun wada, Nassarawa trikania, Last week Rigasa and bakin ruwa boys went on a rampage. I pity the foreigners who will be caught there when the shìt hits the fan

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by drdanny(m): 10:26am On Feb 10, 2017
9jakohai:
Looks like we would have to use Lagos only for the duration of the closure....since everyone does not want Kaduna.

Having said that....long term

1.Abuja needs a second airport. Build one either around Kuje or Bwari axis.

2.We need a high speed railway link between Abuja....and Kano, Enugu, and Lagos/Ibadan...with upgrades at Enugu and Kano Airport.

3.We need to improve our Federal Highway structure well well.

4.Abuja also needs a tramway service./intra city rail

5.Let us renovate our Airport runways....AS and AT WHEN DUE!...NOT 20 years later.

6.Abuja airport needs two more runways.

May your days be long

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by 2016v2017: 10:40am On Feb 10, 2017
Dandsome:
So sad.
When people complain about some ills in the government, it's not always about politics. When Christians were being slaughtered in southern kaduna some people kept mute and did "eyes right" as if they didn't know what was happening.

The whole world was watching. Now after allowing the perpetrators to go scotch free and even paid some of them for killing you think foreigners will feel safe again? No way.

They'll equally think that once they get kidnapped or killed the government will only pay the perpetrators so they won't kill again. Everyone is scared of Kaduna state right now.

Kudos to Elrufai
every sane person should be scared of El rufai state(Kaduna State).

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by dragonking2: 10:40am On Feb 10, 2017
veraponpo:



Bull-shit!

They want to decide for us in our country?

Afterall, they are the ones that said we lack maintenance culture and now that we are having it, they don't want to comply.

Stop being silly.. No investor will want to risk the lives of its customers by operating in a terrorist location.. When El rufai was busy paying his killer Fulani herdsmen to kill and rape innocent people little did he know that karma will hunt him at the end..
Let them operate in safer regions and leave that cursed zone for El rufai and his demonic brothers

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by dvee2: 10:46am On Feb 10, 2017
Dandsome:
So sad.
When people complain about some ills in the government, it's not always about politics. When Christians were being slaughtered in southern kaduna some people kept mute and did "eyes right" as if they didn't know what was happening.

The whole world was watching. Now after allowing the perpetrators to go scotch free and even paid some of them for killing you think foreigners will feel safe again? No way.

They'll equally think that once they get kidnapped or killed the government will only pay the perpetrators so they won't kill again. Everyone is scared of Kaduna state right now.

Kudos to Elrufai

Look at this paid troll blabbing nonsense. This Government that is two years old is responsible for the decay in our airports? The previous PDP government could not build a second runway for Abuja airport in 16 years of power, It is the new government that just came in to do a corrective repair before a major catastrophe occurs that is to be blamed in your eyes? how myopic are you?
And so what if foreign airlines suspend flight to Abuja for only six weeks as against several lives lost.
you can only appeal to wailers like you.
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Dandsome: 10:51am On Feb 10, 2017
dvee2:


Look at this paid troll blabbing nonsense. This Government that is two years old is responsible for the decay in our airports? The previous PDP government could not build a second runway for Abuja airport in 16 years of power, It is the new government that just came in to do a corrective repair before a major catastrophe occurs that is to be blamed in your eyes? how myopic are you?
And so what if foreign airlines suspend flight to Abuja for only six weeks as against several lives lost.
you can only appeal to wailers like you.


ZOMBIE

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by kings09(m): 10:55am On Feb 10, 2017
Did u even read d post @ all? They said security n safety factors were primary considerations. Abi u no de wen the killings in southern kaduna hapnd?
HAH:
Is ok now, let them land at any airport they want to, if they like they should land at ekiti airport then the passengers should take bus to Abuja, because no matter what threat the renovation will go on, is better to lose customer than lose lives

This is purely a business decision .

Kaduna is just 180Km away from Abuja
Kaduna has the fourth best runway in Nigeria
Kaduna has a dual carriage express way to Abuja
Kaduna has a standard fully air-conditioned train to Abuja, moving at a speed of 120km per hour and go as much as 200km per hr


Ethiopian airline and Egypt air have already erected their stand in kaduna airport, this boycott will be a gain to them

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by obailala(m): 10:56am On Feb 10, 2017
9jakohai:
Looks like we would have to use Lagos only for the duration of the closure....since everyone does not want Kaduna.

Having said that....long term

1.Abuja needs a second airport. Build one either around Kuje or Bwari axis.

2.We need a high speed railway link between Abuja....and Kano, Enugu, and Lagos/Ibadan...with upgrades at Enugu and Kano Airport.

3.We need to improve our Federal Highway structure well well.

4.Abuja also needs a tramway service./intra city rail

5.Let us renovate our Airport runways....AS and AT WHEN DUE!...NOT 20 years later.

6.Abuja airport needs two more runways.
Compared to other large airports around the world which have just one or two runways, what exactly is the air traffic at Nnamdi Azikiwe airport that makes so many people think the airport needs a second runway?

Abuja airport does not need any second runway, rather it needs proper management and maintenance.
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Enyimbamercedes: 11:05am On Feb 10, 2017
Rather than renovate the Kaduna-Abuja expressway and pump funds into renovating the Kaduna airport, didn't they just think they should build a second runway! How can an International airport boast of just one runway. Past administrations should have thought of this but the current one shouldn't in the guise of runway renovation, use the excuse to renovate facilities in another state.
*Modified to address the poster above*


It is for this exact reason the airport needs a second runway. So when you close one down for repairs, there is another one to use. So, what happens if there is a breakdown on the single runway, aeroplanes will stay in the air and passengers will use parachute to come down abi?? Think!!!

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by dvee2: 11:23am On Feb 10, 2017
Dandsome:



ZOMBIE

You have no fact, no intelligence, no ability, you only get paid per post so u cannot sustain an ordinary conversation base on fact without being an ethnic/religious/political bigot. All you can type is Zombie.
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by GreyLaw(m): 11:36am On Feb 10, 2017
Dandsome:
So sad.
When people complain about some ills in the government, it's not always about politics. When Christians were being slaughtered in southern kaduna some people kept mute and did "eyes right" as if they didn't know what was happening.

The whole world was watching. Now after allowing the perpetrators to go scotch free and even paid some of them for killing you think foreigners will feel safe again? No way.

They'll equally think that once they get kidnapped or killed the government will only pay the perpetrators so they won't kill again. Everyone is scared of Kaduna state right now.

Kudos to Elrufai

Nigeria as a whole, is not safe. It pains me daily to see 'ordinary' Nigerians from all tribes engage in trade without schisms, but switch your focus to the ruling class from decades past and you see all kinds of corruption, schisms and other forms of evil. And no matter how politically correct we sound, the truth still remains that we have always politics of bitterness, marginalisation, subjugation, and hatred, with everything in this country.
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Dandsome: 11:37am On Feb 10, 2017
dvee2:


You have no fact, no intelligence, no ability, you only get paid per post so u cannot sustain an ordinary conversation base on fact without being an ethnic/religious/political bigot. All you can type is Zombie.

Zombieic zombie
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by blackboy(m): 12:41pm On Feb 10, 2017
The minister has said he don't want to resign. No going back on the Kaduna airport as back up for Abuja. Imagine the insult. Is that how to talk. Is that the last only option. Show Nigerians with professionals and evidence why they could not use Minna or the former local wing that is now used for private jets.
They talk to us like to he'll with us.
Landing gear of lufthansa plane was what he cited. Is it one day that one will spoil? What about other planes that landed in Abuja why didn't they experience landing gear problem.
They just want chop money big and spend money in Kaduna the home of the kingmakers
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by DrMuzungu(m): 1:04pm On Feb 10, 2017
If only there was some wisdom, the NCAA & FAAN gang would join efforts and renovate the runway and taxiways during night hours. There are airports in the world which had their runways renovated this way. Machinery is ready by, let's say, 8 pm. At 10:30 PM last flight departs (Lufthansa?), and minutes later the work begins. They could replace/resurface maybe 10, maybe 50, but maybe 100 meters of tarmac before the first morning flight is due (around 6 AM or so). . But, that requires seriousness, money, and some good engineering.

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by ajepako(f): 1:17pm On Feb 10, 2017
IYANGBALI:
I go come there to do short time with ajepako

Ogbanje... tongue tongue
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by maxzzo1(m): 1:31pm On Feb 10, 2017
I love this....buhari n el rufai plans will not work....look at minna airport very close or better still construct d second run way with all dos huge cash dey wanna use for security....useless govt

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by izombie(m): 1:34pm On Feb 10, 2017
I was watching ultimate airport dubai on tv the other day and they were working on a runway. They planned everything to last for 8 hours. Before they closed the runway at 10pm they had everything ready. Immediately it's 10pm they shut the runway down and started work on it immediately. They even had machines that make tar to dry faster. By the time it was 5.30am they were done and the first flights slated for 6.10am landed on the same runway. Now i ask, why should it take nigeria 6 weeks to do something that was done in 8 hours in dubai? Just asking.

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by ephi123(f): 2:22pm On Feb 10, 2017
Omudia:
It has now been established that Nigeria is a failed nation.

Last month I flew by air to Abuja and noticed the poor state of the Abuja runway. It was literally in ruins, very badly cracked.

Now the question is , why wasn't it noticed in time? Shouldn't there a routine check of emthe runway? If this was noticed at least a year earlier, at least they would have commenced construction of another runway so as to avoid total complete shut down of the airport.

Cursed nation, cursed leaders.

Unfortunately those in positions of authority in Nigeria are never proactive. I was sorely disappointed when I passed through MMIA recently, things broken / not functioning everywhere, you wonder, is there not at least a Facilities or Operation Manager? and what really is the person doing?

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by tonymania(m): 2:57pm On Feb 10, 2017
jossiwan:
Na by force make dem come Kaduna? If dem no fit fly go there, make dem find their own way. Must we be bent by foreigners to do their bids? Abegi!!!
I belive the person saying this does not mean it! So you're happy wif the way peple were killed in that state. I guess u must be joking.

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 4:16pm On Feb 10, 2017
9jakohai:
Looks like we would have to use Lagos only for the duration of the closure....since everyone does not want Kaduna.

Having said that....long term

1.Abuja needs a second airport. Build one either around Kuje or Bwari axis.

2.We need a high speed railway link between Abuja....and Kano, Enugu, and Lagos/Ibadan...with upgrades at Enugu and Kano Airport.

3.We need to improve our Federal Highway structure well well.

4.Abuja also needs a tramway service./intra city rail

5.Let us renovate our Airport runways....AS and AT WHEN DUE!...NOT 20 years later.

6.Abuja airport needs two more runways.
I agree with your points except point 1.
There is no need to build a second airport in Abuja. Like you said, the govt can construct one or two more runways at the airport, so that the closure of one runway won't throw the airport into chaos.
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Thisis2raw(m): 4:59pm On Feb 10, 2017
9jakohai:
Looks like we would have to use Lagos only for the duration of the closure....since everyone does not want Kaduna.

Having said that....long term

1.Abuja needs a second airport. Build one either around Kuje or Bwari axis.

2.We need a high speed railway link between Abuja....and Kano, Enugu, and Lagos/Ibadan...with upgrades at Enugu and Kano Airport.

3.We need to improve our Federal Highway structure well well.

4.Abuja also needs a tramway service./intra city rail

5.Let us renovate our Airport runways....AS and AT WHEN DUE!...NOT 20 years later.

6.Abuja airport needs two more runways.
my dear if you run for presidence I will vote for you..

You just said it the way it suppose to be

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by kaystick86(m): 5:34pm On Feb 10, 2017
The question is, Must we shut down Abuja Airport ? Who does that Shut down an international airport for renovation when you can build another run way. The cost is building another runwa is far cheaper than what you spen in diverting airlines to Kaduna.

The fact is, this guy's lacks ideas and not ready to take other people opinion. This is not democracy. This government is killing this country and am not disappointed.

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Biafrarep(m): 7:05pm On Feb 10, 2017
Very Good Development! Ethnocentrists in government! They want to force air traffic to Kaduna by all means, RUBBISH!!! Modified, if they are hell bent on closing Abuja airport, then Enugu should be the alternative, its very safe, also an international airport and above all, its a couple of hours to Abuja by road. USELESS COUNTRY!!
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by jossiwan(m): 8:48pm On Feb 10, 2017
tonymania:
I belive the person saying this does not mean it! So you're happy wif the way peple were killed in that state. I guess u must be joking.

That's where i reside...
Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 9:02pm On Feb 10, 2017
Biafrarep:
Very Good Development! Ethnocentrists in government! They want to force air traffic to Kaduna by all means, RUBBISH!!! Modified, if they are hell bent on closing Abuja airport, then Enugu should be the alternative, its very safe, also an international airport and above all, its a couple of hours to Abuja by road. USELESS COUNTRY!!

Hate to burst your bubble...but Enugu is 5-6 hours away from Abuja...and the roads too have safety issues that even predate Kaduna state's own issues.....and are just as bad.

Especially from the Lokoja-Enugu and even if you pass through Nassarawa and Plateau.

Kaduna was chosen because 1) it is 2 hours by road 2.)the road is a dual carriageway(Abuja-Enugu is dualised up to Lokoja...and after Lokoja the road is bad. Travelling via Keffi axis...the road is bad and just as unsafe) 3) there is also a direct rail link using a wider gauge than the normal narrow gauge.

If you want to blame people....blame those who should have done routine maintenance of the runway 20 years ago....as well as those who blocked the last admin's attempts to repair the runway.(Hint...it was not from the opposition then).

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 9:19pm On Feb 10, 2017
I am adding one last comment to this thread....just for observations sake.

It seems that many of the opponents to moving the airport to Kaduna are doing so because it ''favors the North''. Considering that it has been said repeatedly that it is a temporary move,and that it will end 6 weeks afterwards...does not seem to have calmed down most people.Especially as the issue for them is not safety per se....the same safety issues exist if the move was made to either Enugu or Lagos....Kaduna is being chosen because the government really has no choice...and because it is closer....but that the North is going to get more ''money''.

The argument has been also made that the airport runway can be repaired by night, used by day. It does have some merit...this has been done in other countries.It should be pointed out that most other countries regularly renovate their airport runways. Abuja's has never been done...but is 20 years overdue. This means to me that serious work needs to be done...because we are talking of twenty years worth of work. Hence the closure. Still....experts have pushed for the repair by night, use by day solution...and I think the Transport Ministry should give them a second hearing.

Finally, the real issue is...failure to plan. As I said earlier...ideally, we would have had a rail-link between Abuja....and Kano/Kaduna, Enugu/Port Harcourt AND Ibadan Lagos, with major airports in all cities...so that if we have to close airports at one axis...we can simply route planes to another axis...and then use rail to transport people around...high speed rail. Sadly, in Nigeria, we do not invest properly in transport development. If we did...many of these problems won't have arisen at all.

I also would like to point out that there seems to be a problem with what constitutes development in Nigeria. During the last admin, people complained that one section of the country was getting plum jobs and development. Now...we have a new guy in town, and people are now complaining that another section of the country is getting the plum jobs and appointments. Development is not about how much money region A gets....if it was, the North would be looking like Dubai by now...but about how region A uses its resources to increase its productive potential. (Which is where resource control comes in...but being Nigeria,it has turned into an argument over how money is shared). I think that whether Nigeria continues together or apart....we better adopt a new paradigm of what development means...or else we would be in perpetual crisis...even if the fabled ''True Federalism'' happens.

Back to my anime. Political discourse in Nigeria is still replete in the language of 1952(apologies to HRH Emir of Kano). Well...the past is a different country. We are in the present. Time we acted that way.

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Re: Foreign Airlines Notify FG Of Unwillingness To Operate From Kaduna Airport by Nobody: 1:08am On Feb 11, 2017
^^
There is actually a rail line linking both Abuja and Kaduna. In fact, it was completed some weeks ago.

But a 2nd runway should be constructed at the airport. One can be used for arriving aircraft, while the other could be used for departing aircraft, like it's done at Heathrow.

A new 3.8km runway won't cost more than N10bn.

Moreover, the air force base in Abuja could be upgraded to handle the presidential air fleet. That means the president's plane would only take off and land at the Airforce base.

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