soulpeppersoup:


Can you state better reference on Christianity than they Bible?

That a thing or doctrine is widely accepted, those it make it true?

All references outside the Bible on Christianity are personal opinion.

It's a waste of my time talking with you though

One major inherent evil in being guided by the bible (rhema and logos), voice of god, voice of the Holy Spirit etc, is the fact that any and all kinds of bizzare, harmful, absurd behaviors, can be exhibited by any Tom, dick and Harry, and yet claimed that they are being lead by god.

* pastor gives insecticide to members to drink, yet the pastor claims being under instruction of divine revelation.

* oyedepo slaps and victimized an innocent girl, yet he claimed holyghost is leading him to do it.

* Adeboye said he drove car for hours without fuel, yet under the power of anointing.

* oyakhilome had issues with his wife, he found the bible to claim that women were created for men.

The list is endless.....

akintom:


One major inherent evil in being guided by the bible (rhema and logos), voice of god, voice of the Holy Spirit etc, is the fact that any and all kinds of bizzare, harmful, absurd behaviors, can be exhibited by any Tom, dick and Harry, and yet claimed that they are being lead by god.

* pastor gives insecticide to members to drink, yet the pastor claims being under instruction of divine revelation.

* oyedepo slaps and victimized an innocent girl, yet he claimed holyghost is leading him to do it.

* Adeboye said he drove car for hours without fuel, yet under the power of anointing.

* oyakhilome had issues with his wife, he found the bible to claim that women were created for men.

The list is endless.....

So who guided those that form the denominational doctrines you see as reference?

soulpeppersoup:


So who guided those that form the denominational doctrines you see as reference?

The mainstream Christian religion agree with the doctrine of original sin. But if you, in your personal interpretation disagrees, say so. And i will want to debate that with you.

If you are game, let me know.

InsanePsycho:
I can imagine little kids burning in hell while Jehovah/Allah smiles at them all lovingly

Kids are sinless in Islam for the record

udatso:

Kids are sinless in Islam for the record

Cool

akintom:
the bible verses below, formed the basis on which the doctrine of original sin is built.

Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Romans 5:12 Why, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed on all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Romans 5:15 But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, has abounded to many.
Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came on all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came on all men to justification of life.
Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Yes it's true man by nature is a sinner. This nature came from the disobedience of Adam and Eve. If that's what you nean by the original sin. Yes it's true. That's exactly what scriptures says.

ApostleT:


Yes it's true man by nature is a sinner. This nature came from the disobedience of Adam and Eve. If that's what you nean by the original sin. Yes it's true. That's exactly what scriptures says.

Do you also share the part that says infant will go to hell (should he die before age of accountability), since they have original sin?

akintom:


Do you also share the part that says infant will go to hell (should he die before age of accountability), since they have original sin?

No.

The Bible says left to God all men would be saved. God doesn't delight in destroying his creation. Man however has a choice to make.

God is just

ApostleT:


No.

The Bible says left to God all men would be saved. God doesn't delight in destroying his creation. Man however has a choice to make.

God is just

Since it's the original sin that makes a man sinner (not the habit of sin) before God, an infant is a sinner (based on original sin).

Since infant can't confess Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior (become born again) and the infant dies.

Do you say that the infant wouldn't go to hell?