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Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:28pm On Mar 09, 2017
So you’ve decided to become a moral relativist. Good for you! What could be better than doing whatever feels right? What could be worse than letting someone tell you what you should and shouldn’t do? Plus, it’s one of the easiest worldviews to adopt: Just leave everyone else alone and demand that they do the same for you, and you’ll never have to worry again about whether your actions are right or wrong. In fact, there are really only seven things that you can’t do as a moral relativist. Simply follow the rules below, and you’ll be free from absolutes forever!
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:29pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #1: Relativists Can’t Accuse Others of Wrong-Doing

Relativism makes it impossible to criticize the behavior of others, because relativism ultimately denies that there is such a thing as wrong- doing. In other words, if you believe that morality is a matter of personal definition, then you can’t ever again judge the actions of others. Relativists can’t even object on moral grounds to racism. After all, what sense can be made of the judgment “apartheid is wrong” when spoken by someone who doesn’t believe in right and wrong? What justification is there to intervene? Certainly not human rights, for there are no such things as rights. Relativism is the ultimate pro-choice position because it accepts every personal choice—even the choice to be racist.

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:30pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #2: Relativists Can’t Complain About the Problem of Evil

The reality of evil in the world is one of the primary objections raised against the existence of God. The argument goes that if God were absolutely powerful and ultimately good, then he would take care of evil. But since evil exists, one of three possible scenarios has to be true: God is too weak to oppose evil, God is too sinister to care about evil, or God simply doesn’t exist. Of course, to advance any one of these arguments means that you also have to believe in evil, which relativists can’t do. In fact, nothing can be called evil—not even the Holocaust—because to do so would be to affirm some sort of moral standard.

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:32pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #3: Relativists Can’t Place Blame or Accept Praise

The concepts of praise and blame are completely meaningless within relativism because there is no moral standard by which to judge whether something should be applauded or condemned. Without absolutes, nothing is ultimately bad, deplorable, tragic, or worthy of blame. Neither is anything ultimately good, honorable, noble, or worthy of praise. It’s all lost in a twilight zone of moral nothingness. Those claiming to be relativists are almost always inconsistent here (they want to avoid blame but readily accept praise), so be careful!

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:33pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #4: Relativists Can’t Claim Anything Is Unfair or Unjust

Under relativism, justice and fairness are two concepts that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. First off, the words themselves have no meaning; both suggest that people deserve equal treatment based on an external standard of what is right, and as I have already said several times, relativists can’t believe in right and wrong. Second, there is no such thing as guilt. Justice entails punishing those who are guilty, and guilt depends on blame, which, as I have also already proven, cannot exist.
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:34pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #5: Relativists Can’t Improve Their Morality

With relativism, moral improvement is impossible. Sure, relativists can change their personal ethics, but they can never become moral people. Moral reform implies some kind of objective rule of conduct as a standard to shoot for. But this rule is exactly what relativists deny. If there is no better way, there can be no improvement. Not only that, but there is no motivation to improve. Relativism destroys the moral impulse that makes people rise above themselves because there is no “above” to rise to. Why change your moral point of view if your current one serves your self-interest and feels good for the time being?
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:35pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule#6: Relativists Can’t Hold Meaningful Moral Discussions

Relativism makes it impossible to discuss morality. What’s there to talk about? An ethical discussion involves comparing the merits of one view with those of another to find out which is best. But if morals are entirely relative and all views are equally valid, then no way of thinking is better than any other. No moral position can be judged adequate or deficient, unreasonable, unacceptable, or even barbaric. In fact, if ethical disputes only make sense when morals are objective, then relativism can only be consistently lived out in silence. You can’t even say, “It’s wrong to push your morality on others.”
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by Nobody: 2:36pm On Mar 09, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Rule #1: Relativists Can’t Accuse Others of Wrong-Doing

Relativism makes it impossible to criticize the behavior of others, because relativism ultimately denies that there is such a thing as wrong- doing. In other words, if you believe that morality is a matter of personal definition, then you can’t ever again judge the actions of others. Relativists can’t even object on moral grounds to racism. After all, what sense can be made of the judgment “apartheid is wrong” when spoken by someone who doesn’t believe in right and wrong? What justification is there to intervene? Certainly not human rights, for there are no such things as rights. Relativism is the ultimate pro-choice position because it accepts every personal choice—even the choice to be racist.

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:37pm On Mar 09, 2017
Rule #7: Relativists Can’t Promote the Obligation of Tolerance

Finally, there is no tolerance in relativism, because the moral obligation to be tolerant violates the rules. The principle of tolerance is often considered one of the key virtues of relativism. Morals are individual, and so we should tolerate the viewpoints of others by not judging their behavior and attitudes. But it should be obvious that this principle fails through contradiction. If there are no moral rules, there can be no rule that requires tolerance as a moral principle. In fact, if there are no moral absolutes, why be tolerant at all? Why not force your morality on others if it’s in your self- interest and your personal ethics allow it? Just be sure not to speak when doing so.
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:40pm On Mar 09, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:42pm On Mar 09, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:50pm On Mar 09, 2017
"You cannot even say one ought to be relativist. A moral relativist can't claim that believing the truth or seeking the truth is either good or obligatory. In other words, "free-thought", "openness to evidence", "rejection of dogma", and "pursuit of the truth" cannot be held as virtues or commended to others."

WORD.

Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 8:51pm On Mar 10, 2017
A moral relativist has no moral grounds on which to claim that slavery is bad. That can only be his own opinion, which is in no way superior to the opinion of a slave trader on that same issue. The moral relativist has no right whatsoever to tell others not to own slaves.

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 6:05pm On Sep 26, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 10:16am On Sep 27, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:19pm On Sep 29, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 11:49am On Sep 30, 2017
If you're a moral relativist, there is no basis for you to condemn Hitler's holocaust!
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 3:25pm On Sep 30, 2017
If moral relativism is the case, then rape isn't necessarily wrong.
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 8:03pm On Sep 30, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 11:01am On Oct 01, 2017
All good things proceed from GOD. smiley
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 2:40pm On Oct 02, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by dalaman: 6:10pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:
All good things proceed from GOD. smiley

If we are to believe what the bible says, all evil things come proceed from God too.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things". Isah 45:7
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 6:22pm On Oct 02, 2017
dalaman:


If we are to believe what the bible says, all evil things come proceed from God too.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things". Isah 45:7

Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.

Source:https://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by dalaman: 7:23pm On Oct 02, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.

Source:https://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html

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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:52pm On Oct 02, 2017
dalaman:


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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:04pm On Oct 03, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 6:58pm On Oct 04, 2017
Without God, nothing makes sense. ☺
Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:32pm On Oct 10, 2017
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by ScepticalPyrrho: 9:56pm On Oct 10, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.

Source:https://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html
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Re: Seven Things You Can't Do As A Moral Relativist by DoctorAlien(m): 7:57am On Oct 11, 2017
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