kropotkin2:
Then tell us how a new country can be formed without the UN

So, in other words, after the killing of Fajuyi and the disgrace of Ogundipe by the Northerners

Awolowo said "These Northerners are just too much for me and my people. The best thing is to join them so that they wont kill us"

Awolowo readily accepted Northern domination.

How can Awolowo as a man look himself in the mirror knowing that a 'small boy' like Gowon was running things in Lagos simply because he is a Northerner when it should have been Brigadier Ogundipe in charge?

This has nothing to do with Ojukwu. Yorubas dont need Ojukwu to know that they should fight to control their own lands. Or do they?

But right in their land, their Governor was slaughtered like Sallah Ram, their most senior officer who should have been head of state was chased away like a common thief.

And all Awolowo and the Yoruba nation could do was caputilate by surrendering and saying The Northerners will kill us"

People have to learn to fight for their own sovereignty and freedom

GrandGarcon:
It is not the duty of the un to create countries, all they can do is acknowledge the fact that there is a new country.

kingzizzy:


Awolowo fought for his Nothern masters simply because he did not have the guts to fight for himself.

farouk0403:


Lugard, have foreseen a potential in one Nigeria thats why he amalgamated us, and we are doing just fine.

Then the bloodline treachery of igbos decided to betray Nigerians by Massacring of top politicians of the southwest and North, while giving hint Azikiwe to took off.

farouk0403:


Lugard, have foreseen a potential in one Nigeria thats why he amalgamated us, and we are doing just fine.

Then the bloodline treachery of igbos decided to betray Nigerians by Massacring of top politicians of the southwest and North, while giving hint Azikiwe to took off.

unclejb2:
while hatred has beclouded any logical sense from you, IPOB is busy reaching out to the entire world. The struggle will never be easy but we are going to be relentless in it. Biafra has come to stay. The gospel is about getting to those in he US.

greatface:
I wasnt planning to say a word until i saw this which is just the direct opposite

farouk0403:


I had a conversation with my igbo friend Last year, and I asked him a question, that if Nigeria finally agrees to let your people go and form their so called biafra, will you leave your huge computer accessories, and laptop business shop behind? how are you sure that your business will thrive best in that you dream country.

He said, he was not in support of biafra even for once ,and he will never ever leave Nigeria, and he even reminded me that it was not all igbos that want biafra, only few gullible ones that are frustrated and jobless.

we just laugh it up, and we continue with our normal routines.

I guess he was right, because I can see that the jobless youth are trying to hijacked nairaland with their myopic thought of their dream land.

And I can bluntly say you are one of them.

farouk0403:
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you guys should
Learn from ojukwu, he dropped his biafra agenda in the 70's and he contested for the office of presidency.

AntiNigerian:
if he's from the Niger Delta like myself, then I must say he must be ignorant, but if he's from eastern NIGERIA, then he must be a fool! Am from Rivers state, am an Igbo man and I want BIAFRA! now go and chop kulikuli!

farouk0403:


Lols are you for real? why is it that igbos like to associate theirselves with ND by all means, why not face your woes alone.

greatface:
you are still wrong on this yet you are not talking about what i qouted you for.

kropotkin2:
I seriously doubt that. No new nation state can be forged without the express permission of the UN, and it would take a unanimous vote of all 5 permanent members of the security council of which France and Britain are members. So kill the delusions of your Biafra as it now stands and is not likely to change in the near future, because you have zero international community support

AntiNigerian:
not all Igbos are from SE, my place is Etche lga in Rivers state and my mum is from Anambra state. so what the heck are you talking about?

farouk0403:


Such igbos were called "settlers" they are not Original dwellers of that village, they came their as a result of migration.

Go and ask your elders they will tell you more.

farouk0403:


I know where you are eyeing in my previous post,

"treachery" right?

you are trying yo tell me that yorubas are traitors, thats the only excuse you igbos have against yoruba's,

but I wont buy it, I am not a yoruba man, but I can say it with confidence that yorubas are not traitors, Awo is protecting the interest of his people, and thats what every leader need to do.

unlike Ojukwu where by he failed to control his people, and he dragged them in to war with a baby country (Nigeria) as of then.

Ojukwu started the war because of ego, he doesnt want to accept the fact that Gowon was the president,

because he was his senior.

ElsonMorali:






Fajuyi wasn't the target of the coupist. He died defending his guest, Aguiyi Ironsi, head of state, at his Ibadan state house. As a proper Yoruba man, He refused to hand over his guest to the murderers and He was killed for that.

You don't see Yorubas crying over that, but you've all decided to take pills for our supposed headache. How e take concern you, I no know

Is that part of the moonlight tales told to you by your parents?

Awolowo protected his people from needless war and death.

A leader who can't protect his people but leads 3million of them to their deaths, is that one a leader? cheesy

You guys mouth "domination" like you don't know the meaning. How did Awolowo accept northern domination? undecided and How did the north dominate the Yorubas? Can you expatiate on that Please. Because last I checked Yorubas states are governed by Yorubas

I'm sorely tempted to ask you How old you are, but I won't. I want to keep this as civil as possible.

You wanted Awolowo, a barrister and a civilian, to challenge Gowon who was the military head of state, while the latter had army cantonments in major Yoruba cities? That's not So bright, don't you think? You don't rush into battle If you're not sure of winning. Thought you guys would have learnt that lesson from the last civil war Don't be like Ojukwu. One would expected that you guys would actually sitting down and study the details of the war So as not to repeat the same mistake, but it seems you're only interested in hating the Yorubas for not joining you in your suicide trip.

To control their lands?
List the names of the governors of the following Yoruba states and Let's analyse to see How many Northerners are there.

Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ondo, Ekiti and Kwara states.

WE control our lands.

Like I said, it was a coup. Adekunle Fajuyi died a honorable death. You want to cry on our behalf? Please go right ahead.

And the Igbo nation that thought it was strong and could take on the Nigerian army lost 3million souls and If not for Awolowo's timely intervention, they'd probably have been wiped out of existence If the war had lingered longer. Ofcourse Ojukwu didn't feel the effects of the war, neither did his family, nor the family of the elite. Check war pictures to verify.

Quite frankly, you're the only ones enslaved in this country.

If and when the Yorubas decide that they are tired of one Nigeria, they don't need to have blood shed before they leave. That I can assure you of. Brains not brawn, brother

farouk0403:


Boko haram is totally different case, and every country must face a calamity or disaster in one way or the other.

Our own is bokoharam and they will be wipe out soonest.

One Nigeria we are and we shall remain!!

Igbo is a brother to yoruba,
yoruba is a brother to hausa
hausa is a brother to igbo

same goes to the other minority tribes

kingzizzy:


It says a lot about Yorubas that their Governor was slaughtered by outsiders right in Ibadan, Yorubaland, and they dont care anything about this act of sacriledge. How can Northerners go to the Western Region and kill your Governor but you take it lying down? It doesnt matter if Fajuyi was defending Ironsi or not, who is the North to go and kill him? You people simply could not/cannot stand up to the North and Fajuyi's death exposes Yorubas as pacifist people.







Bro, there is nothing like 'needless war'. Every war is about one side fighting to be free and another side fighting that there will be no freedom. You want know what domination means?
Domination is when Northerners can slaughter a Yoruba son and Governor of the Western Region, Lt Col Fajuyi, right in Yoruba land and Yorubas cant do anything

Domination when the highest ranking officer after Ironsi, Brigadier Ogundipe is chased out of Lagos, Yoruba land, and a much junior officer called Lt Col Gowon is installed his place. Yet, Yorubas cant do anything. Domination is watching as the Northerner called Gowon is installed as leader right in Lagos and his goes on to abolish the Western Region cut it up and strip you all of whatever powers you had. You people let the Northerners 'steamroll' over you people right in your own land on the excuse of 'we dont want war'. The Yoruba nation of millions was held hostage by a few thousand armed Northerners. Quite shameful.





Nielson Mandela was also a Barrister with no military backing or experience just like Awolowo. The difference is that he refused to allow white apartheid rulers 'steamroll' over him and his people in their ancestral land same as Awolowo was quite willing to let the Northers do in Yorubaland. Nobody is saying that Awolowo should have picked up a rifle, but he could have stood up to the excesses of the North in Yoruba land by refusing any appointment, denouncing Gowon and Northern goons and making a proclaimation urging the Yoruba nation to sieze control of their lands. But he couldnt, he was content to become a second fiddle in 'Northern dominated Nigeria'. He kept Yorubas out of war but at what cost? You people dont even control your economic or political life to this day. How can it be suicide bid for one to fight for their freedom and sovereignty? You guys simply imbibed this sense of defeatism and accepted that you can never win against the North. This is what cowards do.






You dont control your lands. The day you control the resources in your lands and your future is no longer decided in Abuja, Northern Nigeria, but somewhere in Yoruba land, then you will know you are in control.




FA Fajuyi was murdered, I have to cry because his people cared less about his death than they did about pacifying the North that killed him





Ojukwu led his people in a war of freedom. Unlike Awolowo, he was not going to lead his people into Northern slavery to avoid confrontation. Ojukwu refused to go down without a fight. He refused to bow to Northern domination. Yes his people lost millions but that is the price of trying to be free. It cost the allies almost 50 million lives to free Europe from NAZI domination in the second world war. It has cost Syria close to half a million lives trying to remove the domination of Assad

It cost hundreds of lives to bring down white minority rule in south Africa.

Freedom is not cheap. Ojukwu and his people were willing to pay that price, and even though they failed, no one can say that striving for freedom isnt noble. Accepting slavery is for the weak.






Please dont make me laugh. How are Yorubas going to secede if they want to? By talking? Secession is for those who can back up words with action, it is for those who can fight. Yorubas are the only ones in the south of Nigeria who have never taken up arms against the Government, so how are you people going secede? You havent even managed to get resource control and you are seceding? If secession ever becomes possible by shouting, then maybe Yorubas have a chance.

9jabull:


Point of correction, Igbo's has no link or DNA with Yoruba's & Hausa's. and we don't want their brother hood.

Lugard didn't see any potential but avenue to milk us dry, which has been to disadvantage of Biafrans.
eg Bokoharam, herdsmen, stealing of our wealth by Yoruba's & hausa, denying our talented men & women position that they deserve because of useless law, suffering our children using cut of mark etc.
So lugard is a blind man.

farouk0403:


Such igbos were called "settlers" they are not Original dwellers of that village, they came their as a result of migration.

Go and ask your elders they will tell you more.

ElsonMorali:


Look guy your opinion is yours. Frankly I'm tired of this back and forth. Three million Igbos were killed right on Igbo land, what have you done about it yet?

Smoothie01:

..And what do you mean by original dwellers? who then are the original dwellers?
Everyone migrated to where they call their ancestral land...your ancestors migrated to where you call home...some also take over lands thru' conquest....Parts of lgboland was carved into SS in the post war period, migration is not needed to achieve this

Smoothie01:

..And what do you mean by original dwellers? who then are the original dwellers?
Everyone migrated to where they call their ancestral land...your ancestors migrated to where you call home...some also take over lands thru' conquest....Parts of lgboland was carved into SS in the post war period, migration is not needed to achieve this

Ogene001:

what we have done about it? look at the title of this thread, that is one of the numerous things we have been doing about it

9jabull:


Point of correction, Igbo's has no link or DNA with Yoruba's & Hausa's. and we don't want their brother hood.

Lugard didn't see any potential but avenue to milk us dry, which has been to disadvantage of Biafrans.
eg Bokoharam, herdsmen, stealing of our wealth by Yoruba's & hausa, denying our talented men & women position that they deserve because of useless law, suffering our children using cut of mark etc.
So lugard is a blind man.