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Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 9:46pm On Mar 21, 2017
untildotcom:
I won't go about telling you about myself but take it from me from I've employed more people than you if at all you are an employer of labour and my business is still expanding year in year out and I pay my taxes which has been use to put up infrastructures for the non tax paying organisations and people like you to make use of. tongue tongue


It is somebody that is not confidence of himself that is not bols enough to say what hes doing.

If you cannot be bold enough to say what you are doing, then Mr. You dony have the authority to say what you dont know about religious centre's.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 9:51pm On Mar 21, 2017
untildotcom:
Oga Pastor, I see that you are threatened by the new wave of ideology currently flowing and you know what that will be when people come to the realization that waiting on the divine intervention for physical things to come into place will never happen but rather but a concerted effort to change the status quo will.

Why do people want to travel abroad if I may ask you? How many people from other countries want to leave their countries with speed the way we do? You talk about failed government, yes that's why I said that rather than we insisting on building a nation when we got independence, we ran to our various religious centers to seek for divine intervention. Countries that stood their grounds and fought for their future are better off now, Brazil, India, Singapore. Today Nigeria flock to India to seek medical care meanwhile in Ngeria we have more religious centers than manufacturing companies and hospitals put together.

Is it the duty of the religious centers to do all the listed items above? So you have agreed with me that there's so much emphasis on religion such that, they have now taken the place of education in the society, skills acquisition, entrepreneurship training etc.

Is that what the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about? Religious centers are there to rip people off while making them feel good about thier hopeless state.

Like I said that's why schools, hospitals are in shambles and only the religious centers and their schools look good.

Let me also ask, these so called schools built by religious centers, do you guys engage in examination malpractice and other malpractices? The answer is yes, so who is fooling who?

Please do these schools set up by religious centers indulge in Examination malpractice and cheating?

New wave of what. Your misinformation.

Is it the church that will build airports. (It is the people like you that will say, what is the church going to do with airport)

Church buil school you said it wrong, church build hospitals you said its wrong.

What else do you want.

Thag churxh should start building ships, airplane, vehicles, car et.al.

Mr. You are very wrong on this
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 10:01pm On Mar 21, 2017
engineerboat:


You are talking like someone pained.

I put it to you to give me the evidence of your crooked claims.

Have you ever been to the schools before making this unfounded claims of yours.

Mr. Get your facts right
You know examination malpractice happens in these your so called religious schools, which is a school that supposedly should have morals as it's foundation.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 10:06pm On Mar 21, 2017
engineerboat:


It is somebody that is not confidence of himself that is not bols enough to say what hes doing.

If you cannot be bold enough to say what you are doing, then Mr. You dony have the authority to say what you don't know about religious centre's.
Oga the argument wasn't about me but about the proliferation of religious centers in a society where manufacturing and productive centers are non existent.

You don't expect me to start listing my business ventures online do you? sad But know that I pay tax and I have a TIN, which I know you don't. I have my RC certificate from CAC.

what do you do if I may ask? Are you a religious leader?
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 10:15pm On Mar 21, 2017
engineerboat:


New wave of what. Your misinformation.

Is it the church that will build airports. (It is the people like you that will say, what is the church going to do with airport)

Church buil school you said it wrong, church build hospitals you said its wrong.

What else do you want.

Thag churxh should start building ships, airplane, vehicles, car et.al.

Mr. You are very wrong on this

This dude doesn't get it at all. grin grin grin grin grin

In most advanced countries, you can't find bill boards of religious centres inviting the public for one programme or the other like you do in Nigeria and Africa.

Infact you have more billboards advertising religious centers than you have advertising products. You also have more sign post of churches than sign post of factories grin grin grin What does that tell you about the society?

You don't still get the drift, do you? How do you compare a society like ours with religious centers in every nook and cranny with a society with research centers, space centers, laboratories and factories.

The difference is clear! One represents a people who are focused on religion as panacea to solving societal problems while the other believes in solving societal problems through research and development.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by juman(m): 10:31pm On Mar 21, 2017
You are right.
The sad trend became pronounced during ibb time.
It was during ibb time warehouses turned to religious centers.

Primarily, the military generals destroyed nigeria.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 10:34pm On Mar 21, 2017
untildotcom:
Oga the argument wasn't about me but about the proliferation of religious centers in a society where manufacturing and productive centers are non existent.

You don't expect me to start listing my business ventures online do you? sad But know that I pay tax and I have a TIN, which I know you don't. I have my RC certificate from CAC.

what do you do if I may ask? Are you a religious leader?

I ask you a simple question.

This is a free medium to display what you are doing. Ole la ni kan ma ridi oun.

What are you doing. Anybody can have TIN. Anybody can have RC from CAC.

I ask you a question, you never answer and you are asking me question.

Bi ogun eni ba dani loju, a ma fi n lale gaaara ni.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by Alawe(m): 11:27pm On Mar 21, 2017
untildotcom:


This dude doesn't get it at all. grin grin grin grin grin

In most advanced countries, you can't find bill boards of religious centres inviting the public for one programme or the other like you do in Nigeria and Africa.

Infact you have more billboards advertising religious centers than you have advertising products. You also have more sign post of churches than sign post of factories grin grin grin What does that tell you about the society?

You don't still get the drift, do you? How do you compare a society like ours with religious centers in every nook and cranny with a society with research centers, space centers, laboratories and factories.

The difference is clear! One represents a people who are focused on religion as panacea to solving societal problems while the other believes in solving societal problems through research and development.
@Op, you are wright in some ways but you are making it all seemed as if the only reason for nigeria's economic problems is as a result of not having manufacturing companies scattered everywhere, and more than religious/worship centers and I said NO. It is the government and leadership. We could have them like that and still have the problems we have now. Check this; With all the riches and benefits that come with OIL why are we still enmeshed with the same Economic and developmental problems. I know many countries that will wish to have our OIl, but the question is, why are we still like this with Oil. And I know if we haven't had oil, you would've been wishing if the waters (rivers and seas) were Oil.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by Ovamboland(m): 1:01am On Mar 22, 2017
paschu:
Not even the US dares to tax churches that are registered as tax exempt.

So you can dream on. But as long as the free world remains, you cannot dictate policies for the church neither can you force them to convert their halls to factories. Just get that into your head.

Again, blaming the church (which has proven to be the catalyst for industrial and scientific revolution around the world) for Nigeria's failure is foolish.

Nigeria is failling simply becaise its political class has institutionalized injustice on a political structure that's designed for consumption rather than production.

That's not the church's fault.

And for your information, you cannot be seriously rich without being deeply spiritual. And you can take that to the bank.



What is the spiritual meter of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg?

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Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 5:59am On Mar 22, 2017
Alawe:
@Op, you are wright in some ways but you are making it all seemed as if the only reason for nigeria's economic problems is as a result of not having manufacturing companies scattered everywhere, and more than religious/worship centers and I said NO. It is the government and leadership. We could have them like that and still have the problems we have now. Check this; With all the riches and benefits that come with OIL why are we still enmeshed with the same Economic and developmental problems. I know many countries that will wish to have our OIl, but the question is, why are we still like this with Oil. And I know if we haven't had oil, you would've been wishing if the waters (rivers and seas) were Oil.
You may not really understand what religion does to the psyche of the people. It makes people lazy and depend on the divine for everything. Don't forget Nigeria got independence in 1960 and six years later trouble started. Why didn't we keep insisting on building our country despite all the challenges? Like someone said most of the mega churches started in the 80's where they to advantage of the desperate situation in the country. Singapore went through tough times, go and read 'From third world to first,' by Lee Kuan Yew. In the 70's or 80's the Chinese used bicycle as means of transport. The world mocked them but they were planning for the future, they made a law for every family to have one child, that's strategic planning. Today they are a superpower borrowing Nigeria money that were once richer than them.

Have you been to churches were members pray for employment, infact the pastor will organise a programme for the unemployed youths in the church, he will ask them to sow to seed to gain employment. This youths will keep praying month in month out with no job.

Jobs can never be gotten through this way. It's a way churches scan their members and make money off them.

If you don't think religion plays a major role in the way this county is like this, why has our warehouses turn to worship centres and we see nothing wrong with it?

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Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 6:08am On Mar 22, 2017
engineerboat:


I ask you a simple question.

This is a free medium to display what you are doing. Ole la ni kan ma ridi oun.

What are you doing. Anybody can have TIN. Anybody can have RC from CAC.

I ask you a question, you never answer and you are asking me question.

Bi ogun eni ba dani loju, a ma fi n lale gaaara ni.

Pastor there's no point taking it out personal on me. I don't dance to the tune of naysayers. It's a pity you cannot argue within a context, I'm not here to tell you about myself this is a public forum. But be rest assure that I'm not begging anyone to eat rather I'm responsible for the upkeep of many individuals and families.

It's not anybody that can have RC from CAC, it's not #2000 to get it. It cost thousands of naira.

If I tell you my chain of businesses you'll be jealous, so forget it.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by pchukwudi: 6:50am On Mar 22, 2017
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 7:52am On Mar 22, 2017
untildotcom:
Pastor there's no point taking it out personal on me. I don't dance to the tune of naysayers. It's a pity you cannot argue within a context, I'm not here to tell you about myself this is a public forum. But be rest assure that I'm not begging anyone to eat rather I'm responsible for the upkeep of many individuals and families.

It's not anybody that can have RC from CAC, it's not #2000 to get it. It cost thousands of naira.

If I tell you my chain of businesses you'll be jealous, so forget it.

You are still not getting the point you yourself is arguing about.

You yourself bring in RC issues or did anybody forced you to bring it in.

Moreover who is jealous about what you have. Is it your mirage business that anybody will be jealous about.

Who said you are begging anybody to eat.

Buyer: Elefo gbe efo e wa,
Seller: efo mi kin se ti atan


At the bolded is shows you dont know what you are saying.

So if i have my company and establishment i cannot register it with CAC, just because of you,

Mr. your new-found mis-information is cracked and nothing but mis-information.

What you don't know and not ready to know, you cannot know it

Mr. Get your fact right
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 7:56am On Mar 22, 2017
untildotcom:
You may not really understand what religion does to the psyche of the people. It makes people lazy and depend on the divine for everything. Don't forget Nigeria got independence in 1960 and six years later trouble started. Why didn't we keep insisting on building our country despite all the challenges? Like someone said most of the mega churches started in the 80's where they to advantage of the desperate situation in the country. Singapore went through tough times, go and read 'From third world to first,' by Lee Kuan Yew. In the 70's or 80's the Chinese used bicycle as means of transport. The world mocked them but they were planning for the future, they made a law for every family to have one child, that's strategic planning. Today they are a superpower borrowing Nigeria money that were once richer than them.

Have you been to churches were members pray for employment, infact the pastor will organise a programme for the unemployed youths in the church, he will ask them to sow to seed to gain employment. This youths will keep praying month in month out with no job.

Jobs can never be gotten through this way. It's a way churches scan their members and make money off them.

If you don't think religion plays a major role in the way this county is like this, why has our warehouses turn to worship centres and we see nothing wrong with it?

Mr. you are only making statements on naysays and that makes your assumptions and generalization mis-information
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 8:00am On Mar 22, 2017
Ovamboland:


What is the spiritual meter of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg?

Spiritual meter you say,

can i ask you;

are Dangote, Otedola, Alakija, Ubahs brother, Jimoh Ibrahim, religionless
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 8:04am On Mar 22, 2017
@ untildotcom what is the input and assistance of the government to Innoson motors, Dangote Company, other people who are aiming to grow the economy with their business,

Is it the church/Mosque that will create enabling environment for them.
is it the religous centre that will stabilize the forex for them
is it the religious centre that will provide power/electricity
is it the church that will build good roads for them
is it the church that will make the market favourable for them
is it the religious centre that will enforce buy Nigeria, grow nigeria

many industries are folding up because some people are not thinking right and you are here laying the blames on the religious centre.

Who employ miscreants to disrupts the peace of the environmnet.

Mr. get your facts right
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 8:13am On Mar 22, 2017
engineerboat:


You are still not getting the point you yourself is arguing about.

You yourself bring in RC issues or did anybody forced you to bring it in.

Moreover who is jealous about what you have. Is it your mirage business that anybody will be jealous about.

Who said you are begging anybody to eat.

Buyer: Elefo gbe efo e wa,
Seller: efo mi kin se ti atan


At the bolded is shows you dont know what you are saying.

So if i have my company and establishment i cannot register it with CAC, just because of you,

Mr. your new-found mis-information is cracked and nothing but mis-information.

What you don't know and not ready to know, you cannot know it

Mr. Get your fact right
In your bush mentality, don't think everyone online is Yoruba so stop writing to me in Yoruba please. It's only a business person that will know what RC and TIN stands for.

Yes, I had to let you know so you don't think I'm talking about what I do not have understanding for.

Low minds like you refuse to argue within context but will be quick to attack the person's personality.

I'm not a religious fanatic, for your information the world has gone light years ahead and you will still keep depending on them for your transistor radio with such a mentality you have.

You will definitely be jealous judging from the type of mentality you have!

No country grows with religion as the front burner!

You've not answered this question. Do religious schools built by religious organisations engage in Examination malpractice?

I need an answer please.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 8:15am On Mar 22, 2017
engineerboat:
@ untildotcom what is the input and assistance of the government to Innoson motors, Dangote Company, other people who are aiming to grow the economy with their business,

Is it the church/Mosque that will create enabling environment for them.
is it the religous centre that will stabilize the forex for them
is it the religious centre that will provide power/electricity
is it the church that will build good roads for them
is it the church that will make the market favourable for them
is it the religious centre that will enforce buy Nigeria, grow nigeria

many industries are folding up because some people are not thinking right and you are here laying the blames on the religious centre.

Who employ miscreants to disrupts the peace of the environmnet.

Mr. get your facts right

I pay my taxes dude, that's where government gets money from to build roads and provide other basic amenities. It's called IGR.

What is your own contribution? None! You run a church and don't pay taxes so we are not of the same contributory level. You benefit from my taxes dude!

Why do we have more religious centers than productive centers in Nigeria? You think! Pastor think!

You depend solely on the divine for everything.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 8:17am On Mar 22, 2017
HOW TO WORSHIP THE NIGERIAN GOD

The Nigerian god is one. It may have many different manifestations, but it is essentially different sides of the same coin. Sometimes, adherents of the different sides may fight and kill each other. But Nigerians essentially follow the Nigerian god.

This article is for all those who want to become better worshipers. If you are a new or prospective convert, God will bless you for choosing the Nigerian god. This is just how you must worship him.

First, you must understand that being a worshiper has nothing to do with character, good works or righteousness. So the fact that you choose to open every meeting with multiple prayers does not mean that you intend to do what is right. The opening prayer is important. Nothing can work without it. If you are gathered to discuss how to inflate contracts, begin with an opening prayer or two. If you are gathered to discuss how to rig elections, begin with a prayer. The Nigerian god appreciates communication.

When you sneak away from your wife to call your girlfriend in the bathroom, and she asks if you will come this weekend, you must say—in addition to “Yes”—“By God’s grace” or “God willing”. It doesn’t matter the language you use. Just add it. The Nigerian god likes to be consulted before you do anything, including a trip to Obudu to see your lover.

When worshipping the Nigerian god, be loud. No, the Nigerian god is not hard of hearing. It is just that he appreciates your loud fervour, like he appreciates loud raucous music. The Nigerian god doesn’t care if you have neighbours and neither should you. When you are worshipping in your house, make sure the neighbours can’t sleep. Use loud speakers even if you are only two in the building. Anyone who complains must be evil. God will judge such a person.

This is how the Nigerian god judges people who are your enemies- evil people who want to spoil your hustle; like your colleagues who don’t want your promotion; like your single old aunties who secretly don’t want you to marry that rich handsome man (who you haven’t met yet); like all your neighbours who are stopping you from getting pregnant: He violently consumes them by fire. He returns all their evil plans back to sender. So when making requests about all your enemies, do not pray that they be forgiven or that they change. Pray that the Nigerian god kills them off with such violent finality that there is nothing left of them.

Attribute everything to the Nigerian god. So, if you diverted funds from public projects and are able to afford that Phantom, when people say you have a nice car, say, “Na God”. If someone asks what the secret of all your wealth is, say, “God has been good to me”. By this you mean the Nigerian god who gave you the uncommon wisdom to re-appropriate public funds.

Consult the Nigerian god when you don’t feel like working. The Nigerian god understands that we live in a harsh climate where it is hard to do any real work. So, if you have no clue how to be in charge and things start collapsing, ask people to pray to God and ask for his intervention.

The Nigerian god loves elections and politics. When you have bribed people to get the Party nomination, used thugs to steal and stuff ballot boxes, intimidated people into either sitting at home or voting for you, lied about everything from your assets to your age, and you eventually, (through God’s grace), win the elections, you must begin by declaring that your success is the wish of God and that the other candidate should accept this will of God. It is not your fault whom the Nigerian god chooses to reward with political success. How can mere mortals complain?

The Nigerian god does not tolerate disrespect. If someone insults your religion, you must look for anyone like them and kill them. Doesn’t matter what you use—sticks, machetes, grenade launchers, IED’s, AK47’s. If the person who insults your religion is online and you can't locate them, feel free to threaten to kill them. Like we say in Nigeria: "at all-at all na im bad pass". Something is better than nothing at all.

The Nigerian god performs signs and wonders. He does everything from cure HIV to High BP. And the Nigerian god is creative: he can teach a person who was born blind the difference between blue and green when the man of god asks, and he can teach a person born deaf instant English. As a worshipper you must let him deliver you because every case of sickness is caused by evil demons and not infections. Every case of barrenness is caused by witches and has no scientific explanation. So instead of hospital, visit agents of the Nigerian god. But the Nigerian god does not cure corruption. Do not attempt to mock him.

If you worship the Nigerian god, you are under no obligation to be nice or kind to people who are not worshippers. They deserve no courtesy.

The Nigerian god is also online. As a worshipper, you are not obliged to be good or decent on Facebook or Twitter all week except on Friday and Sunday, both of which the Nigerian god marks as holy. So you may forward obscene photos, insult people, forward lewd jokes on all days except the holy days. On those holy days, whichever applies to you, put up statuses saying how much you are crazy about God.
These days, the Nigerian god also permits tweets and Facebook updates like: "Now in Church" or "This guy in front of me needs to stop dozing" when performing acts of worship.

In all, the Nigerian god is very kind and accommodating. He gives glory and riches and private jets. And if you worship him well, he will immensely bless your hustle.

Written by Elnathan John
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 8:21am On Mar 22, 2017
@engineerboat Your religiousness is a joke, it doesn't allow for productivity because it's a scam. You prey on the hopelessness of people to achieve your own selfish goal.

Read the article above!

You claim to be an engineer, what have you designed or fabricated. Which branch of engineering did you study or you are just an online engineer grin grin grin grin grin
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 9:16am On Mar 22, 2017
untildotcom:
@engineerboat Your religiousness is a joke, it doesn't allow for productivity because it's a scam. You prey on the hopelessness of people to achieve your own selfish goal.

Read the article above!

You claim to be an engineer, what have you designed or fabricated. Which branch of engineering did you study or you are just an online engineer grin grin grin grin grin

Answer my question.

Dont digress from thr question i ask you.

You said you are paying tax, employed people, registered with CAC.

You refused to answer my simple question
Maybe you did not get it.

What is the name of your mirage manufacturing company of yours, your refusal to answer means it does not exist.

Mr. Get your fact right
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 9:31am On Mar 22, 2017
engineerboat:


Answer my question.

Dont digress from thr question i ask you.

You said you are paying tax, employed people, registered with CAC.

You refused to answer my simple question
Maybe you did not get it.

What is the name of your mirage manufacturing company of yours, your refusal to answer means it does not exist.

Mr. Get your fact right
I'm not here to prove a point to you Mr. online engineer.

Even if I give you the name of my company, you will still say it doesn't exist until you pay me a visit.

Your type can never be satisified.

I don't play to the whims and caprices of mischief makers. cheesy cheesy cheesy

I contribute to the development of my society which you are a beneficiary.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 10:09am On Mar 22, 2017
untildotcom:


I pay my taxes dude, that's where government gets money from to build roads and provide other basic amenities. It's called IGR.

What is your own contribution? None! You run a church and don't pay taxes so we are not of the same contributory level. You benefit from my taxes dude!

Why do we have more religious centers than productive centers in Nigeria? You think! Pastor think!

You depend solely on the divine for everything.

Misinformation as usual.

What you dont know you cannot know.

So i wont blame you for your ignorance.

I ask you again what business are doing.

Abi your mirage tax paying manufacturing industry does not have name ni.

Noise makers misinformation business centre also pay tax.

Mr. Gt your fact right.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by BENZINA(m): 10:25am On Mar 22, 2017
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Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by BENZINA(m): 10:26am On Mar 22, 2017
Trying to get the gist.....
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by engineerboat(m): 10:31am On Mar 22, 2017
untildotcom:
I'm not here to prove a point to you Mr. online engineer.

Even if I give you the name of my company, you will still say it doesn't exist until you pay me a visit.

Your type can never be satisified.

I don't play to the whims and caprices of mischief makers. cheesy cheesy cheesy

I contribute to the development of my society which you are a beneficiary.

I repeat what is the name of your company,

Refusal to mention it means it doea not exist
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by Ovamboland(m): 11:26am On Mar 22, 2017
pchukwudi:
Bill Gates:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/9812672/Bill-Gates-interview-I-have-no-use-for-money.-This-is-Gods-work.html

http://archives.relevantmagazine.com/slices/bill-gates-discusses-god-church-charity-and-faith

Mark Zuck'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/former-atheist-mark-zuckerberg-religion_us_58684845e4b0eb586489cb9e

http://www.cultofmac.com/390447/steve-jobs-told-mark-zuckerberg-to-make-a-spiritual-pilgrimage-to-india/


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/technology/story/is-this-the-temple-that-made-zuckerberg-jobs-billionaires/1/484858.html

B the way, being spiritual is diff. from being religious.




The statements of these people shows they are not religious or spiritual in the sense we accept in Nigeria see below

Bill Gates on Religion
Gates was interviewed November 1995 on PBS by David Frost. Below is the transcript with minor edits.

Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?

Gates: I don't. I'm not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I'm a huge believer in. There's a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very very positive impact.

Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you'd say you don't know?

Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid










And from your links Mark is Agnostic but acknowledges that spiritual exercise is entirely useless. It doesn't mean he made his many as a result of his spirituality. After making his money he still exploring meaning of life:

When a commenter asked him, “Aren’t you an atheist?” he responded: “No. I was raised Jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but now I believe religion is very important.”





Your assertion that you must be spiritual to strike it rich us false
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by pchukwudi: 12:56pm On Mar 22, 2017
Your problem is that you think that being spiritual is synonymous to being religious.

You can be deeply spiritual without being any bit religious. And you can be religious without being spiritual.

Both Mark and Bill were and are still very deeply spiritual.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_but_not_religious


http://www.innerbonding.com/show-article/1280/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-spiritual-person.html



Ovamboland:


The statements of these people shows they are not religious or spiritual in the sense we accept in Nigeria see below

Bill Gates on Religion
Gates was interviewed November 1995 on PBS by David Frost. Below is the transcript with minor edits.

Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?

Gates: I don't. I'm not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I'm a huge believer in. There's a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very very positive impact.

Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you'd say you don't know?

Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid










And from your links Mark is Agnostic but acknowledges that spiritual exercise is entirely useless. It doesn't mean he made his many as a result of his spirituality. After making his money he still exploring meaning of life:

When a commenter asked him, “Aren’t you an atheist?” he responded: “No. I was raised Jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but now I believe religion is very important.”





Your assertion that you must be spiritual to strike it rich us false
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by paschu: 1:18pm On Mar 22, 2017
You are just being unreasonable.

untildotcom:


The first statement takes me back to the earlier point I made that rather than focus on building a vibrant nation we decided to seek divine intervention in religious centers.

According to reports, 11 million Nigerian youths are unemployed, tell me if those religious centers were manufacturing factories, would we still have this rate of unemployment in the country? The answer is No.

The so called schools owned by the religious centers will still graduate students into the society where there are more religious centers than factories.

Nigerians are leaving because there are no jobs, they are tired of seeking divine intervention in a physical situation and have decided to seek greener pastures elsewhere.

You have said it yourself, we need to encourage people to build more factories rather than religious centers.
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by akoko11: 1:26pm On Mar 22, 2017
End time post
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 5:22pm On Mar 22, 2017
engineerboat:


I repeat what is the name of your company,

Refusal to mention it means it doea not exist
I cannot say that online, you want to know my net worth so you come and kidnap me for ransom grin grin grin grin

It's not going to work!
Re: How I Wish Most Of These Were Manufacturing Companies In Our Country by untildotcom: 5:26pm On Mar 22, 2017
paschu:
You are just being unreasonable.

It's you that is being unreasonable. To you it is okay to have religious centers littered over the whole place while you import toothpick and people stay unemployed.

For me, I want more manufacturing centers than religious centers to reduce the high rate of unemployment in the society.

I'm not selfish like you pastor who cares for himself and his household.

I want to see more people working and gainfully employed in a society filled with so many manufacturing centers.

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