I am thinking it is.

www.toolspushers.com - what do you guys think?

The footer says the company is in port harcourt.  Dual/any other Port harcourt residents - any way you can get them to do a redesign? 

By the way, whois pulls up an Ibadan address.  Perhaps someone needs to be visited and perhaps needs a glass or two of conquer mixture 

But how u take dey get these sites?


Looking at it and I am not keen on contacting them. Port Harcourt has too many Five Thousand Naira (FTN) web designers and these clients will prolly be thinking another FTN designer will do it better this time.

I think what's even there is an attempted update or a revamp of what was there before. See this. . .

Put differently, what we are seeing now is an improved version of the old website.

It seems some website owners don't realize that they can lose clients just by the way their websites look especially for first time visitors. If a business cannot handle a basic task of setting up a decent website how can I trust them with my money for any service or product they claim to offer?

They'll just rearrange your money

he he, Afam. True talk. I once purposely voted against someone in an election because their website was so crappy.

Dual:
I am a member of another forum (email-based). One member (owner of tools pushers), forgetting that he did a "reply all", writes to another reminding him that they still await his quotation so that they will know what to supply. Being the busy body that i am, i noticed the url to his website, in part because it was bolded and said to myself, "hmm, this might be an opportunity to make some dough". Why? Because my gut told me the site would suck. However, I didn't expect it to be that bad.

I don't use IE so I assume it might look a bit better. If you check it out in FF and are squeamish, just grab a puke bag while you're at it as you will feel like doing one thing - puke.

May 2010 bring about only the cream in our business o - Amen!

This 2010 eh, we need to sit the clients down and let them know they have boundaries. They are the boss over their respective companies but not over the web standards and technologies we use.

I dunno how this happened but we just made this profession a hungry-man thing.

I'm begining to blame W3C for making HTML soo easy (On the other hand i dey God for W3C. web dev is just more fun than stand alone app dev)
Who will dare to put a banner saying "software design for 5k"?

We have done it to ourselves. take for instance this bufoon caught on a plane over the weekend. If we don't jump out to issue press releases and do press conferences (where is yar'adua when you need him? ), there will always be some who will conclude that all Nigerians are like that guy.

Shifting gears to web dev, if we don't speak up about charging cheap sums (how you define "cheap" is up to you), granted in the name of capitalism, I won't fault them as it is up to the competition to come up with reasons to let the clients know otherwise, clients will assume that that is the going rate. Worse still, as word of mouth goes around and around, the 5K becomes the norm.

Hopefully, rather than thinking of how to build the next facebook/google, if the 2010 web conference as advertised does happen, an issue like this will be one of the main topics for discussion.

One matter that should be addressed is creating the awareness nationwide using the mass media, to let pipz know that these rediculously priced jobs will always result in sub standard stuff. E no go even bad if examples of 5k sites are shown on tv. By the time that man sees toolpusher dot com on tv for this reason he'll do the right thing.

I will add "N5k websites cannot do your business any good - ask around if in doubt" to the list of quick facts on my website at www.justwebservices.com

Dual Core:

One matter that should be addressed is creating the awareness nationwide using the mass media, to let pipz know that these rediculously priced jobs will always result in sub standard stuff. E no go even bad if examples of 5k sites are shown on tv. By the time that man sees toolpusher dot com on tv for this reason he'll do the right thing.

Really bad work by an amateur, All the styling na inline, No links works, It sucks,

But true true Yawa, how u dey look up all this dumb sites?

d don, he he, one of my favorite past times is to either google things at random, or as I am driving around, copy down URLs of companies inscribed on billboards or vehicles for future viewing (for the purpose of seeing if there is anything I can "borrow" from them or to contact them later in hopes that they will hire me to redesign their sites)

Talking of bad sites,has anyone checkd out www.abimco.com
its got it all,bad domain and bad site,and they expect people to host with them

he he, 212, u sabi look for trouble o

My experience has been that if you go by web host/developer sites, you probably wouldn't patronize half of them, and that includes foreign-based ones. This is why I prefer doing my things via referrals.

hi yawatide, am very new here but i like the way u reason so why not contact me cos i need ur help to redesign my website thnks. nenyemacoy@yahoo.com

sure.

YIM/email at yawatide (it's a yahoo account. Note the lack of dashes).

I look forward to chatting with you and doing business with you as well

@ yawa, Afam and dual Core, Honestly speaking i respect you guys and i call u guys the webmasters.

Thanks for the compliment. I try my best. The more I hear this, the more something says I should set up a school to rival aptech and niit combined

Something is not right somewhere in my head.
Yawa I read this

yawa-ti-de:

Thanks for the compliment.

as "Thanks for the complaint".

Today just hasnt been my day.

Ice-Tech:

@ yawa, Afam and dual Core, Honestly speaking i respect you guys and i call u guys the webmasters.

Thanks brotha

he he dual, I guess you are running on single core today LOL

@Yawa, So you have that time, for such,

@Dual Hello Bros, thanks for all your help for my site ohhhh, Just a lazy dude and most of all i somehow hate php,

Donpuzo:

@Yawa, So you have that time, for such,

@Dual Hello Bros, thanks for all your help for my site ohhhh, Just a lazy dude and most of all i somehow hate php,

You're welcome. Hopefully, I'll mail you with what you requested today.

yawa-ti-de:

he he dual, I guess you are running on single core today LOL

Most def!

please can someone send me an ebook on PHP and testing with wamp server 2.0

Secondly my company gives me work(a website to design) and our director goes 2 power point n design some crap and says she wants the site like that, should i reject the job?but i give it d way she wants it,she calls me a genuis which i tink am not.

my email address if u want to snd the ebook ok_charlespaul@yahoo.com

plz i really need it

go to w3schools.com and there you'll get what you need free

Una no go kill me here O!. Looking at those site(soresights) I am embolden to put up my url for scrutiny from web masters.

this is my first design (dual, you actually helped me with my navigation code) and I feel i didn't do badly.

Abeg, my masters in designs, am open and eager to learn so make una tell me areas wey i commit coding crimes.

Yawa and dual, God of naira will bless you guys for your patience with wahala heads like me.

Here's the URL: http://www.c-edgemedia.com/index.html

feel_me, I feel you well well

It is actually a good layout. The only thing, looking at it from 30,000 feet I would say is you should learn to:
1) Indent your code, for readability and maintainability

2) Move your page-level css and js to external files

3) specify heights and widths on your images (when you leave it to browsers, it could slow them down, if you have a lot)

4) avoid using double or triple (or whatever) BR tags. There is a reason we have padding and margin

5) Use external calls to javascript libraries (as in reference the ones hosted by google) - it reduces page weight.
5a) If you are using jquery, no need adding flash. Just use one of the many jquery animations

6) Reduce the time for your fading photos, to avoid/reduce distractions.

Other than that, looks good bro.

Mehn yawa you too much o!! and feel me i dey feel your site.

@Yawa,
Thanks ur comments/advice. I'd def try to brush up more on it. Guess its gonna take a while to get to ur level.
1) Indenting, I guess for now I rely too much on DW

2) I actually thought it works the page faster. Will take correction.

3) Should size specs be on the html or css ?

4) Ok. Pro'ly carried away with trying out all the tags

5)Now I really cudnt get to making a jquery animation(actually copied a sample fron net but then I cudnt make it work on my page) Guess I need help on that.

6)Ok. My client (dat sounds sweet) actually wanted longer.

And, on the pages, I cudnt get the buttons to be highlighted when selected. How can i do that? code attached hereunder.

@212, keep blazing, the compliment makes me feel privileged drinking from the same table with u guys.

Is dual on AWOL like some presido we know??



p {
  line-height: 1.5em;
}

ul#menu, ul#menu ul {
  list-style-type:none;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  width: 10em;
}

ul#menu a {
  display: block;
  text-decoration: none;
}

ul#menu li {
  margin-top: 1px;
}

ul#menu li a {
  background: #000;
  color: #fff;
  padding-left: 2em;
  padding: 0.7em;
}

ul#menu li a:hover {
  background: #000;
}

ul#menu li ul li a {
  background: #ccc;
  color: #000;
  padding-left: 20px;
}


ul#menu li ul li a:hover {
  background: #666;
  color: #fff;
  font-weight: bold;
  border-left: 5px #f00 solid;
  padding-left: 15px;
}


.code { border: 1px solid #ccc; list-style-type: decimal-leading-zero; padding: 5px; margin: 0; }
.code code { display: block; padding: 3px; margin-bottom: 0; }
.code li { background: #ddd; border: 1px solid #ccc; margin: 0 0 2px 2.2em; }
.indent1 { padding-left: 1em; }
.indent2 { padding-left: 2em; }


<ul id="menu">
<li>
<a href="#">Partneship</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="partners.html">Content Develpoers</a></li>
<li><a href="agents.html">Creative Agencies</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>

Feel me i dey o. I dey feel the site
The spam bot no gree you. I just sent seun a message about your post. hopefully it will get cleared.

for the stuff about highlighting when selected, try this

li.selected a{
  background: #999;
  color: #fff;
  padding-left: 2em;   
  padding: 0.7em;
}

you can choose what the highlighting color should be by playing around with the "background" attribute.

on your html, for each page at something like <li class="selected"> to the <li> tag you want selected.