Please get me right, I am not saying that the government should have defended the bomber, but let there a healthy government that is in place. Not the type that signs budget in Saudi Arabia.

selingel:


Look at the issues raised here:

1. Al-Qaiada sees Nigeria as another veritable ground to employ JOBLESS YOUTHS IN THE NORTH, for terrorist attacks, since the government have failed to give them jobs.

2. The advent of all these useless Quranic schools, and nearly all being manned by morons and illiterates, should be another source of concern to this thing, called Yar'adua's administration. Today, is NASFAT, tommorow, Quareb, next tommorow, Boko Haram, the following, Kala Kato, only GOD knows which is next. They are just bunch of useless terrorist breeding camps. I have never seen a religion so useless, without apology to any!.

3. The last one is what OBJ wanted. Obasanjo had better apologise to Nigerians, for imposing a dieing man on Nigerians as a President. I am not wishing Yar'adua death, but if he will not resign so that he can treat himself better, then GOD should help us out. We are tired of being known as a backward nation. I used to say, Nigeria should remain one, but it is very obvious, these northern states will never repent, then we should part, please.

What you have analysed here is exactly the problem of Nigeria.

What does problem of Nigeria really have to do with a boy's attempted terror attack?

Choco5:

What does problem of Nigeria really have to do with a boy's attempted terror attack?

Wait until someone you know fall victim to this barbaric act, then you hy the relate!.

, then you will know why they relate.

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Wait until someone you know fall victim to this barbaric act, then you hy the relate!.

You have not answered the question
let me not abuse you

Choco5:

You have not answered the question
let me not abuse you

Who gave you the right to abuse, try it? You will be the one to sign out. Probably he went too far, why bring in the word abuse?

Choco5:

You have not answered the question
let me not abuse you

My apologies, if I sounded insulting, but the facts still remain. There is no need to want to abusive!.

Mutallab’s Jihad Fantasy: Muslims Will Win & Rule The World
December 30, 2009 16:53 (5 hours ago), 717 views


Failed suicide bomber Umar Abdulmutallab spelt out his nightmare vision of a world ruled by fanatical Islamic hardliners in a series of rambling internet rants.

In one, he said: “I won’t go into too much details about my fantasy, but basically they are jihad fantasies.

“I imagine how the great jihad will take place, how the muslims will win (Allah willing) and rule the whole world and establish the greatest empire once again.”

London’s Daily Mirror online edition today published more details about the web postings of the failed Nigerian bomber.

In some of the postings that we published yesterday, Mutallab spoke of his commitment to the extremist cause, his loneliness and his depression

Today, the Mirror reported his struggle to contain sexual urges that he feared might overwhelm his idealism.

But he also posted mundane messages full of enthusiasm for his other passion-

Liverpool football team, often taking friendly swipes at supporters of rivals Arsenal.

Between 2005 and 2008, while Nigerian millionaire’s son Abdulmutallab was at university in London, he admitted: “I have no friend. Not because I do not socialise etc. but because either people do not want to get too close to me as they go partying and stuff while I don’t. Or they are bad people who befriend me and influence me to do bad things.

“As I get lonely, the natural sexual drive awakens and I struggle to control it, sometimes leading to minor sinful activities.

“And this problem makes me want to get married to avoid getting aroused.”

In early 2005, he said: “I get lonely sometimes because I have never found a true muslim friend. I will describe myself as very ambitious and determined. I might sound boring but if you want to know more about me, just give me a shout.”

In another post, he acknowledges feelings of lust, chastising himself for not lowering his gaze around unveiled women.

Abdulmutallab, who was foiled as he tried to blow up a passenger jet on

Christmas Day as it neared Detroit, even warned: “The hair of a woman can easily arouse a man.”

His football posts were far less melancholy. Three months before his team won the Champions League in 2005, he wrote: “Liverpool is my chosen club. I’m disappointed though with their performance lately. How can someone get to like Arsenal? I tried to but no way. I’ve been to several football stadiums, I must say Highbury was one of the least impressive, a tiny junkyard sort of place in the streets of London, what a pity!”

He even weighed into the Frank Lampard versus Steven Gerrard debate. He admitted: “Lampard is really becoming a classy player. Now I think he’s better than Gerrard.”

Abdulmutallab even committed the ultimate Liverpool heresy by suggesting the team might be better if Gerrard left.

He said: “Gerrard might regret leaving Liverpool, but somehow I want him to leave.”

Terror experts believe Abdulmutallab, 23, was targeted by al-Qaeda as a suicide bomber because he had previously flown to the US, had a valid visa and had lived in the UK.

They believed he was well placed to slip past security and get on board Flight 253 with explosives hidden in his underpants - which he did.

He was stopped when fellow passengers subdued him as he tried to trigger the explosive by injecting it with a chemical-filled syringe. A security source said: “Umar had the perfect profile for the job.

“His education in the UK and previous experience in the US helped him slip through the counter terrorism net.”

The US State Department yesterday said Abdulmutallab was given a two-year visa in June 2008 because he was studying at a top London university and had previously visited America.

Al-Qaeda expert Dr Maha Azzam said: “Abdulmutallab does not fit the profile of the typical al-Qaeda suicide bomber. He is from a wealthy background, well educated, bright and, crucially, he has travelled to the West and successfully entered the US before.

“There is no doubt that his travel history and Western experience made him attractive to al-Qaeda leaders looking to put someone on a plane to the US who would raise the least amount of suspicion.

“They would be more than aware that someone who had freely travelled to both the

US and UK before would have a greater chance of boarding a plane with explosives than someone without that history.”

Meanwhile, more pictures emerged yesterday of Abdulmutallab visiting the famous sites of London with friends on a school trip in 2003.

The US also released photos showing the scorched underpants worn by Abdulmutallab in the unsuccessful bomb attempt. A passenger on flight 253 yesterday told how a terrified British woman was sitting next to Abdulmutallab as he tried to detonate the explosive.

Roey Rosenblith, 27, said the unidentified woman told him she was from Durham. He added: “She told me she was on the same row, to the left of the bomber and saw him go up in smoke.

“There was fire and flames and she wondered what was going on. She was so scared that she was crying and held the hand of the woman passenger next to her.”

Security sources fear as many as 2,000 al-Qaeda militants may be hiding in Yemen. The country’s leaders admit to there being over 300, including some of the leaders.

But many more are thought to be training there while dodging counter-terror police.

The startling figure emerged as al-Qaeda revealed it has bought hi-tech scanners for fanatics to practise beating airport security.

Abdulmutallab had links with Yemen, having quit his Arabic school there and meeting with al-Qaeda operatives for three months’ training ahead of his attack.

Photographs released by the US government yesterday show the scorched underpants worn by Abdulmutallab along with the six-inch packet of high explosive that was sewn inside them. There was 80g of the explosive, called PETN. Experts said it was more than enough to blow a gaping hole in the aircraft.


http://thepmnews.com/2009/12/30/mutallabs-jihad-fantasy-muslims-will-win-rule-the-world

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Failed suicide bomber Umar Abdulmutallab spelt out his nightmare vision of a world ruled by fanatical Islamic hardliners in a series of rambling internet rants.

In one, he said: “I won’t go into too much details about my fantasy, but basically they are jihad fantasies.

“I imagine how the great jihad will take place, how the muslims will win (Allah willing) and rule the whole world and establish the greatest empire once again.”

This is day dreaming!.

Enjoyment1:

Terror experts believe Abdulmutallab, 23, was targeted by al-Qaeda as a suicide bomber because he had previously flown to the US, had a valid visa and had lived in the UK.

They believed he was well placed to slip past security and get on board Flight 253 with explosives hidden in his underpants - which he did.

This is what happens when there is so much foreign education, with little or no parental guidance. The man failed to really monitor his child, so what he could not get at home, he got outside. I always tell parents, please let your children be with you up to Degree level, that way, he would be able to wade off bad influences while abroad. This method may not have 100% potency, but it is far better. Irrespective of faceless and callous killings in Nigeria, non have gotten the boldness to go this far. Al.Qaeda uses the depressed, and the unbalanced mind to perpetrate evil. I must admit, even the sane too are used, but dig dip into the lives of this suicide bombers, then you will see why they joined Al-Qaeda.

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The US State Department yesterday said Abdulmutallab was given a two-year visa in June 2008 because he was studying at a top London university and had previously visited America.

Men!. More hard times for student visa applicants.

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But many more are thought to be training there while dodging counter-terror police.

The startling figure emerged as al-Qaeda revealed it has bought hi-tech scanners for fanatics to practise beating airport security.

The way it is going, that means more hard times for air travellers to US and perhaps, UK.

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“As I get lonely, the natural sexual drive awakens and I struggle to control it, sometimes leading to minor sinful activities.

Like WANKING. lol

This how militancy starts.

Enjoyment1:

This how militancy starts.

Though this might be a local championship, but militancy are bred through same means.

You can see what a wrong religious believe can cause a person. You need to see Nigerians are being treated at Hearthrow Airport. Water came out of my eyes.

almost all 9/11 BOMBERS where Saudi.

Why are they not 'treated' like you just describe above?

otawa:

almost all 9/11 BOMBERS where Saudi.

Why are they not 'treated' like you just describe above?

Hmmm!. That is foot for thought!.

Just wondering why somebody would just wake up one morning and think of blowing up innocent people with himself. This guy is an avearge Nigerian who cannot die for a course he believes in else he would have detonated the explosive mid-air. This is going to be tougher times for Nigerians abroad.

fynewaka:

Just wondering why somebody would just wake up one morning and think of blowing up innocent people with himself. This guy is an avearge Nigerian who cannot die for a course he believes in else he would have detonated the explosive mid-air. This is going to be tougher times for Nigerians abroad.

fynewaka:

Just wondering why somebody would just wake up one morning and think of blowing up innocent people with himself. This guy is an avearge Nigerian who cannot die for a course he believes in else he would have detonated the explosive mid-air. This is going to be tougher times for Nigerians abroad.

I tire oh!. All in the name of religion. Meanwhile, Osama will never tie bomb on his waist to show example, but he will keep using many others.

who are those people showing their buttocks everywhere?

una go soon show am tire

tpia.:

who are those people showing their buttocks everywhere?

una go soon show am tire

Those are the rulers of Nigeria!

tpia.:

who are those people showing their buttocks everywhere?

una go soon show am tire

The buttocks sef no fine

fynewaka:

Just wondering why somebody would just wake up one morning and think of blowing up innocent people with himself. This guy is an avearge Nigerian who cannot die for a course he believes in else he would have detonated the explosive mid-air. This is going to be tougher times for Nigerians abroad.

Was he hypnotised? I just cannot figure out why he wanted to take his life?.

Otobroto:



Was he hypnotised? I just cannot figure out why he wanted to take his life?.

Are you the same otobroto I know in UG?

fynewaka:

Are you the same otobroto I know in UG?

Where is UG, please?

UG is Ugep.

Whaoh!. I guess is a username I just took for myself. I heard of that name in (Polytechnic of Calabar) Polycal sports week, between between 1998 and 2000. Indeed, I am not the guy you think, I am, but the name emanated from the same venue. How I wished I was the one. Take Care!.

selingel:

Whaoh!. I guess is a username I just took for myself. I heard of that name in (Polytechnic of Calabar) Polycal sports week, between between 1998 and 2000. Indeed, I am not the guy you think, I am, but the name emanated from the same venue. How I wished I was the one. Take Care!.

You sure have multiple identity! This is a public forum and you sold out yourself cheaply in one of your post when you were trying to prove something to another user. I just asked for the fun of it, though I don't need a rocket scientist to know you are the same and one person. This quote below from one of your posts could help. Some of us have been in NL for a couple of years and can't be fooled by cases like that. I will advise you to exercise restraint in how much you reveal of your true identity in a public forum. With this, I can go ahead to tell you that you belong to the Pirate confraternity, did NYSC in 2001 etc.

A word they say. . .

I thought I apologised. Anyway, I am very sorry. As for my name, it is not just any username slowpoke!. It is a real name from one of the local government areas of Cross River state. I hope you now have that in your skull, Mr educated illiterate!. It is a very popular name while I was in school. All Polycal students (now Cross River state University of Technology) between 1995-2000 set, will testify. I am not cow meat!, or beaf as you have deceitfully termed it.
Meanwhile, I will do you one favour!. I will not go to work early enough today. I will wait until later in the day. I will like to go to Yaba to make a formal report there, and also copy the Nigerian Police force. I will tell them, that the lost but now found victim that escaped a couple of days ago have been found, but he is on Nairaland. As for you, please just be a good boy, and remain where you are. I will not harm you, neither will anyone here. Any attempt to leave here, might make your case permanent. By the way, did you go through any market? I am asking so that, I might just invite a Pastor, so that deliverance will be added to the attempt to cure you. Never mind, I just remembered, you have no regard for GOD. We shall just make do with syringe and other orthodox method. Just stay where you are, I will be right back!.

Can you reconcile both highlighted posts from you? Nairaland has far gone beyond that piece of trash you are trying to sell. Next time, draw the line between real business and cyber business!

fynewaka:


You sure have multiple identity! This is a public forum and you sold out yourself cheaply in one of your post when you were trying to prove something to another user. I just asked for the fun of it, though I don't need a rocket scientist to know you are the same and one person. This quote below from one of your posts could help. Some of us have been in NL for a couple of years and can't be fooled by cases like that. I will advise you to exercise restraint in how much you reveal of your true identity in a public forum. With this, I can go ahead to tell you that you belong to the Pirate confraternity, did NYSC in 2001 etc.

A word they say. . .


Can you reconcile both highlighted posts from you? Nairaland has far gone beyond that piece of trash you are trying to sell. Next time, draw the line between real business and cyber business!

selingel:

Nairaland and its antics!

WHAT MAKES SUICIDE BOMBER THICK?

What brings a young Palestinian man to detonate himself amidst a crowd of teenagers? Is it a religious upbringing with promises of paradise in reward for acts of martyrdom? Is it the parental support he receives for his convictions? Is it brainwashing, or rather encouragement from a Palestinian society with no other means of fighting back against oppression and humiliation?

Yesterday the military wing of the Hamas, Izz al-Din al-Qassam, claimed responsibility for Friday night's bombing outside a Tel Aviv discotheque, which took the lives of 20 young Israelis. The suicide bomber was identified as 22-year-old Saeed Hotary, a Jordanian who had been living in Kalkilya.

"I am very happy and proud of what my son did and I hope all the men of Palestine and Jordan would do the same,'' Saeed's father Hassan told The Associated Press.

Family members could not supply information about Saeed's political affiliations. His brother said Saeed "was very religious since he was young; he prayed and fasted."

The typical suicide bomber
Since the signing of the Oslo Agreements in 1993, Palestinian terrorist organizations have sent more than 70 suicide bombers on missions against Israeli targets. Fortunately, not all succeeded in their missions like Hotary. Last month Yediot Aharonot presented a profile of the typical suicide bomber: 47% of the suicide bombers have an academic education and an additional 29% have at least a high school education.
83% of the suicide bombers are single.
64% of the suicide bombers are between the ages 18-23; most of the rest are under 30.
68% of the suicide bombers have come from the Gaza Strip.


In a column published today in the New York Times, William Safire writes that "the pride and joy of Arafat's arsenal is a weapon of mass terror that has no known defense: the human missile." Safire describes the suicide bombers as being 'brainwashed' and considers the efforts necessary to enable the launching of these 'missiles.'

"[Arafat] knows where the human missiles are being programmed and armed. Such fanatic indoctrination takes time and isolation; it takes teachers of terror skilled in evoking visions of a martyrdom and requires recruits from vulnerably infuriated families who are known to other cells. The brainwashing is reinforced with official broadcasts of films of a dead boy beckoning potential suicide killers to join him in paradise."
From the New York Times, June 4, 2001

In a report on MSNBC following the suicide bombing attack in Netanya last month, unnamed sources from Hamas admitted that suicide bombers undergo a process of indoctrination that lasts for months.

"The bombers believe they are sent on their missions by God, and by the time they're ready to be strapped with explosives, say the sources, they have reached a hypnotic state. Their rationale: that by blowing themselves up in a crowd of Israelis, they are forging their own gateway to heaven."
From MSNBC

The BBC reported that suicide bombers "are likely to be motivated by religious fervor." According to a BBC report, recruits are "picked out from mosques, schools and religious institutions. They are likely to have shown particular dedication to the principles of Islam… and are taught the rewards that will await them if they sacrifice their lives."

Islam reserves places in paradise
According to Islamic tradition, "he who gives his life for an Islamic cause will have his sins forgiven and a place reserved in paradise."

But Christine Huda Dodge, About's Guide to Islam, insists that suicide is forbidden in Islam. Though "fighting oppression is commendable," Dodge points out that "harming innocent bystanders, even in times of war, was forbidden by the Prophet Muhammad."

Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah al Sheik, the supreme religious leader of Saudi Arabia, issued a fatwa (religious edict) in April that equated suicide bombings with suicide, which therefore is not allowed in Islam.

In response, Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, a leading doctrinal authority in the Sunni Muslim world, wrote in Egypt's Al Ahram that "if a person blows himself up, as in operations that Palestinian youths carry out against those they are fighting, then he is a martyr. But if he explodes himself among babies or women or old people who are not fighting the war, then he is not considered a martyr."

The bottom line is not entirely clear among Islamic clerics. Sheik Yousef al Qaradawi, a moderate Egyptian cleric told the Qatari newspaper Al Raya in April, "They are not suicide operations. These are heroic martyrdom operations, and the heroes who carry them out don't embark on this action out of hopelessness and despair but are driven by an overwhelming desire to cast terror and fear into the hearts of the oppressors."

Combination of occupation and humiliation
Mouin Rabbani, director of the Palestinian American Research Center in Ramallah, claims, "Religious or ideological fervor appears to offer only a partial explanation." Rabbani says "Palestinian suicide bombers are neither products of a passive and unquestioning obedience to political authority nor pressed into service against their will."

Instead, Rabbani states that the common thread among all suicide bombers is the "bitter experience of what they see as Israeli state terror."

"Without exception, the suicide bombers have lived their lives on the receiving end of a system designed to trample their rights and crush every hope of a brighter future… Confronted by a seemingly endless combination of death, destruction, restriction, harassment and humiliation, they conclude that ending life as a bomb - rather than having it ended by a bullet - endows them, even if only in their final moments, with a semblance of purpose and control previously considered out of reach."
From Middle East News Online

Palestinians support suicide bombings
An unnamed Palestinian security official cited in today's Jerusalem Post said, "One of the problems in stopping [suicide bombing] attacks is the strong support for them among the population."

According to a poll conducted among Palestinian adults from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank including East Jerusalem at the end of May by Dr. Nabil Kukali and the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion (PCPO), "a substantial majority (76.1%) support suicidal attacks like that of Netanya [in May], whereas 12.5% oppose, and 11.4% express no opinion."

Palestinian psychiatrist Iyad Al-Sarraj, cited in a recent Reuters report entitled "Palestinians find ready supply of suicide bombers," said both religion and the humiliation of life under occupation were the key motives for suicide bombers bent on starting a better life in paradise.

"It is no wonder that some people are doing it. We should wonder why everyone isn't doing it," Sarraj said.


http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/security/articles/sec_0049.htm

Really taking a critical look, can Islam as a religion be affiliated to Suicide bombing?