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For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by Dayocold001: 12:11pm On Apr 16, 2017
In the argument for and against religion, for those for religion, rationality is lost in their faith and for those against religion their rationality is blinded by their dislike for a religion that as kept them in "their" dark for years.

Against religion: My religious brothers don't believe nothing can ever come from nothingness, like the earth must have a God for it to be earth; this is the truth to christians but thinking rationally, A weed that grows from this same earth comes from nothingness and weed in most cases grows to become a forest without the help of a farmer (a GOD). So for christians, if you're looking for evidences from atheist against the argument of a God, you'll never run out of it, that is their believe and every person have what they believe in, it is the what that is different

For religion: We are all different people in the world, no two person are the same person in them, even conjoined twins differ greatly in personality, to think you don't see a reason to believe in God after years of believing is your cup of Garri. However trying to impose you new found "will" on another is being lost in blindness. Have you ever seen a church in prayer or praise, maybe you have or not, but the few I have seen, I have seen men and women immersed in their praise and prayers that I doubt any other endeavor can create such immersion. Even if you are against religion, look at your brother who is so different from you and see the hope, the fulfillment this endeavor brings him or her and see for them for once.

In conclusion: There will always be Christians, Muslims, Atheist, Scientologist, Naturist. As our personalities are different, so his our believes and philosophies, and it's a good thing to try to spread your philosophy in a healthy manner, trying to impose it will be futile at best.

Happy Sunday... It is always sunny on a sunday.

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Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by yanabasee(m): 12:15pm On Apr 16, 2017
Nairaland father of atheistic belief wont like this... Seun watcha say?
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by pressplay411(m): 1:24pm On Apr 16, 2017
Preach!
Live and Let Live.
Religious Tolerance is the solution.

Unfortunately religion pitches us against one another. For one religion/denomination to be True, the others must be false and obliterated.
Jews obliterated the Philistines, Babylonians, Canaanites, Egyptians, simply for being of different faiths.
Early Christians were persecuted and nearly obliterated by same Jews but prevailed.
Early Christians likewise obliterated and persecuted other Faiths in the name of "Evangelism." (Our forefathers can attest to this)

Now Islam is still persecuting and obliterating other Faiths especially Christians in the name of propagating it's religion.

So the question is,
Has Religion Done More Harm To The World Than Good?
The answer is an emphatic Yes.

Religionists are quick to ascribe basic morality as one of the good religion has done for mankind, but truly it's society that has taught us morality.
People don't commit crime not because of fear of heaven or hell but because they would get caught punished by jungle justice or the court.

Hence Religion must be scrapped and abolished, Morality and Reason instead should be propagated.
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by Dayocold001: 7:43pm On Apr 16, 2017
pressplay411:
Preach!
Live and Let Live.
Religious Tolerance is the solution.

Unfortunately religion pitches us against one another. For one religion/denomination to be True, the others must be false and obliterated.
Jews obliterated the Philistines, Babylonians, Canaanites, Egyptians, simply for being of different faiths.
Early Christians were persecuted and nearly obliterated by same Jews but prevailed.
Early Christians likewise obliterated and persecuted other Faiths in the name of "Evangelism." (Our forefathers can attest to this)

Now Islam is still persecuting and obliterating other Faiths especially Christians in the name of propagating it's religion.

So the question is,
Has Religion Done More Harm To The World Than Good?
The answer is an emphatic Yes.

Religionists are quick to ascribe basic morality as one of the good religion has done for mankind, but truly it's society that has taught us morality.
People don't commit crime not because of fear of heaven or hell but because they would get caught punished by jungle justice or the court.

Hence Religion must be scrapped and abolished, Morality and Reason instead should be propagated.
You speak the truth brother, so do I, history is full of examples of cults and charlatans, christianity and moslem is the most successful cult in modern history because of their use of a supreme God as their bases. Even if there is no more christianity or moslem religions for people to follow, another form of a cult will form for people to believe in. Understand this: people always have a need to believe. That said there will always be a of form of religion or cult.
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by CoolUsername: 7:51pm On Apr 16, 2017
This would have been cool and all if people weren't mutilating children's Instruments because of some old Jewish customs. Why should an atheist such as I sit idly and as such atrocities unfold? There's nothing wrong in airing your views on social media.
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by excadz(m): 9:23pm On Apr 16, 2017
CoolUsername:
This would have been cool and all if people weren't mutilating children's Instruments because of some old Jewish customs. Why should an atheist such as I sit idly and as such atrocities unfold? There's nothing wrong in airing your views on social media.

Correct!!! Atheists cannot agree to disagree with the religious because of extremism such as
forcing women to cover their faces in public,
circumcising young girls so their natural Desires never develop,
and killing those who do not agree with corrupt religious philosophies.

Unethical beliefs must be confronted even if it comes from Atheists who will destroy society because they have no morals.

Fairness, Equity, and Accountability are the pillars of every civilized society
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by pressplay411(m): 10:11pm On Apr 16, 2017
excadz:


Correct!!! Atheists cannot agree to disagree with the religious because of extremism such as
forcing women to cover their faces in public,
circumcising young girls so their natural Desires never develop,
and killing those who do not agree with corrupt religious philosophies.

Unethical beliefs must be confronted even if it comes from Atheists who will destroy society because they have no morals.

Fairness, Equity, and Accountability are the pillars of every civilized society

World's heinous crimes are not committed by atheist but theists. From Genocides (by extremists) to Embezzlement of Public Funds (by Politicians who hold high positions in churches/mosques)
Surprised to hear you assert that atheists have no morals, except you were just being sarcastic.

Morality is not a factor of Theism but personal choice.
Formication/Adultery, Covetousness, Lying, Stealing/Embezzling, Drinking, Greed, etc are committed even by the most religious, so pray tell, what's now the essence of the charade, who's deceiving who?
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by excadz(m): 10:28pm On Apr 16, 2017
pressplay411:


World's heinous crimes are not committed by atheist but theists. From Genocides (by extremists) to Embezzlement of Public Funds (by Politicians who hold high positions in churches/mosques)
Surprised to hear you assert that atheists have no morals, except you were just being sarcastic.

Morality is not a factor of Theism but personal choice.
Formication/Adultery, Covetousness, Lying, Stealing/Embezzling, Drinking, Greed, etc are committed even by the most religious, so pray tell, what's now the essence of the charade, who's deceiving who?

I am a student of human psychology. I know the reason why people do bad things. (Serotonin, Dopamine, Epinephrine). All people, religious or not, do bad things. It is a fact of life and a result of the mechanisms of Life. There is no such thing as an Atheist that does not do bad things unless he/she learn how to manage their Desires.

Morality is a product of Conscience. All people, religious or not have a conscience. Religious people are just more held to account by society when they f-up. We say, "see that preacher paying women for sex" when if an Atheist does it no one holds them to account.
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by pressplay411(m): 10:48pm On Apr 16, 2017
excadz:


I am a student of human psychology. I know the reason why people do bad things. (Serotonin, Dopamine, Epinephrine). All people, religious or not, do bad things. It is a fact of life and a result of the mechanisms of Life. There is no such thing as an Atheist that does not do bad things unless he/she learn how to manage their Desires.

Morality is a product of Conscience. All people, religious or not have a conscience. Religious people are just more held to account by society when they f-up. We say, "see that preacher paying women for sex" when if an Atheist does it no one holds them to account.

True. Well said.
Morality is a product of Conscience and Conscience is a product of what's fed into our minds by the society.
It all comes down to choice and it's consequences.

But still religion has done more harm than good, period.
Imagine a friend/neighbor/colleague you've known for a long time would turn hostile on you fast once in the name of defending their God (who shockingly can't defend himself).
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by excadz(m): 11:03pm On Apr 16, 2017
pressplay411:


True. Well said.
Morality is a product of Conscience and Conscience is a product of what's fed into our minds by the society.
It all comes down to choice and it's consequences.

But still religion has done more harm than good, period.
Imagine a friend/neighbor/colleague you've known for a long time would turn hostile on you fast once in the name of defending their God (who shockingly can't defend himself).

I will agree that even though religion is not the only cause of evil deeds, people seem to gather more strenght in defending their religious beliefs than anything else.
Re: For Both The Religious And The Atheist, Rationality Is Lost. by Dayocold001: 6:36pm On Apr 17, 2017
excadz:


I will agree that even though religion is not the only cause of evil deeds, people seem to gather more strenght in defending their religious beliefs than anything else.
true this... The zeal and passion used to prosecute Islamic wars is unmatched in our world today.

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