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Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 5:33pm On Jan 09, 2010
Greeting to all Nairalanders,

i came across this website while looking for nigerian atheists, so i thought i should pop in and check it out, i have noticed that from most of the posts i have read in the religion section, 99% of the atheists here are ex-christians, then i guess i will be the first ex- muslim atheist here,

Like my post said i am looking for fellow nigerian atheists based in nigeria most especially abuja,

As for the believers here (christians and muslims) i come in peace, i am not here to ridicule anyones beliefs or debate anyone about god, am just here to hook up with other atheists here in abuja, Nigeria

regards,
g1 wink
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by manmustwac(m): 6:00pm On Jan 09, 2010
welcome to nairaland g1. Hope u find what your looking for, but then out of curiosity can u jist us about your journey to atheism?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 6:06pm On Jan 09, 2010
manmustwac:

welcome to nairaland g1. Hope u find what your looking for, but then out of curiosity can u jist us about your journey to atheism?

thanks for the welcome, as for my journey to atheism, its was a very long one, i hope to give details soon ,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by manmustwac(m): 6:16pm On Jan 09, 2010
g1:

thanks for the welcome, as for my journey to atheism, its was a very long one, i hope to give details soon ,
Well am waiting to hear it. I even keep asking myself what is the the percentage of nigerian athiests or agnostics to christians and muslims? Do u know whether its 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 etc?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 6:20pm On Jan 09, 2010
manmustwac:

Well am waiting to hear it. I even keep asking myself what is the the percentage of nigerian athiests or agnostics to christians and muslims? Do u know whether its 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 etc?

its more like 1 in 1000 grin, there is a mosque and church in every street corner, so go figure, do you know any naija atheist in abuja?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by manmustwac(m): 6:25pm On Jan 09, 2010
g1:

its more like 1 in 1000 grin, there is a mosque and church in every street corner, so go figure, do you know any naija atheist in abuja?
Unfortuneately for you. Am a British born and bred nigerian based here in london. I only one person who i would describe as agnostic and he's my cousin in lagos. But if u stick around nairaland for a few weeks am sure you will come across a few.
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by bawomolo(m): 8:21pm On Jan 09, 2010
welcome man, we need to hear your story.

and stay away from a jihadist named abuzola grin
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 8:31pm On Jan 09, 2010
bawomolo:

welcome man, we need to hear your story.

and stay away from a jihadist named abuzola grin

thanks for the welcome, bawomolo, do you know any atheists down here?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by Tudor6(f): 10:40am On Jan 10, 2010
I have an atheist friend in abuja but he's freaked out about discussing his views up north and might be reluctant to meet you. . . .anyway, what'd you need atheists in abuja for?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 11:27am On Jan 10, 2010
Tudór:

I have an atheist friend in abuja but he's freaked out about discussing his views up north and might be reluctant to meet you. . . .anyway, what'd you need atheists in abuja for?

just like your friend i have been a closet atheist for a while because i do not know other atheists in abuja here, so i need some one i can chat with and discuss atheism, so if you could link me up with him it will be great,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by ancel(m): 1:03pm On Jan 10, 2010
Can anyone please prove to me conclusively that Atheists exist anywhere?

I think it's a delusion that some few people face: they keep thinking atheists exist, and in some cases, they think they are atheists tongue.

You have all been fooled: Atheists do not exist! Whoever has valid proof of atheism should please step forward. cool

Whoever thinks agnostics may exist, or maybe they may not, but is not really sure, should also please step forward. cool

@OP: For reasons outlined above, I can only wish you well. You won't find atheists or agnostics in Abuja. grin grin grin
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by Zodiac61(m): 1:15pm On Jan 10, 2010
I am sure that you will find some soon.
ancel:

Can anyone please prove to me conclusively that Atheists exist anywhere?

I think it's a delusion that some few people face: they keep thinking atheists exist, and in some cases, they think they are atheists tongue.

You have all been fooled: Atheists do not exist! Whoever has valid proof of atheism should please step forward. cool

Whoever thinks agnostics may exist, or maybe they may not, but is not really sure, should also please step forward. cool

@OP: For reasons outlined above, I can only wish you well. You won't find atheists or agnostics in Abuja. grin grin grin
This is a stupid post. Can anyone please prove that ancel exists??
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by manmustwac(m): 1:17pm On Jan 10, 2010
ancel:

Can anyone please prove to me conclusively that Atheists exist anywhere?

I think it's a delusion that some few people face: they keep thinking atheists exist, and in some cases, they think they are atheists tongue.

You have all been fooled: Atheists do not exist! Whoever has valid proof of atheism should please step forward. cool


Whoever thinks agnostics may exist, or maybe they may not, but is not really sure, should also please step forward. cool

@OP: For reasons outlined above, I can only wish you well. You won't find atheists or agnostics in Abuja. grin grin grin
Can u bring conclusive proof that your soul exists, that your spirit exists that heaven is exists and that hell exists. Coz as far as am concerned all that i mentioned only exists in your imagination.  smiley
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by ancel(m): 1:19pm On Jan 10, 2010
@Zodiac61 & manmustwac: If you don't understand sarcasm, get off the turf. Can you prove that the internet exists (and is not a figment of your imagination), even though you currently enjoy its manifestation? And yet we have people going around trying to prove that God (does, or does not) exist.
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 1:32pm On Jan 10, 2010
please you guys should not turn this topic into another debate "for" or "against" atheism, like i said in my first post i am not here for debate just looking for atheists to talk to, peace out
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by DeepSight(m): 1:36pm On Jan 10, 2010
I am certain that the only correct explanation that may be given of atheism is that it is a rejection of religion: or the image of God as given by religion - for NO MAN, bar NO ONE can ever claim that he does not regard his existence to have been caused by a factor (however described).

In that sense it is correct to state that 99% of atheists have misapprehended atheism altogether and should be rebranded as "anti-religionists."
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by mazaje(m): 1:42pm On Jan 10, 2010
Deep Sight:

- for NO MAN, bar NO ONE can ever claim that he does not regard his existence to have been caused by a factor (however described).

How did oneness of infinity create man and other animals? What were the processes involved and how can we know that oneness of infinity did it not the other gods of man made religions that also claim the same?. . . .
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by CrudeOil2(m): 1:45pm On Jan 10, 2010
Welcome on board. First time to see a muslim turn atheist.
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 1:45pm On Jan 10, 2010
Deep Sight:

I am certain that the only correct explanation that may be given of atheism is that it is a rejection of religion: or the image of God as given by religion - for NO MAN, bar NO ONE can ever claim that he does not regard his existence to have been caused by a factor (however described).

In that sense it is correct to state that 99% of atheists have misapprehended atheism altogether and should be rebranded as "anti-religionists."

mazaje:

How did oneness of infinity create man and other animals? What were the processes involved and how can we know that oneness of infinity did it not the other gods of man made religions that also claim the same?. . . .

Hi Deep sight and mazaje, hope all is good? happy new year, but please kindly carry your debate to another place, if you read my first post you will understand why am here,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by mazaje(m): 1:46pm On Jan 10, 2010
@ OP

Nigerians are NOT open minded enough to accept atheist and the fact that there are others that do not accept their various delusions and mythical tales. . . . . .Most atheist are still hiding in their various closets because of fear of being ostracize by friends family and society. . .There are few atheist and agnostics in abuja but I know it will be hard for you to meet them. . . .
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 1:47pm On Jan 10, 2010
Crude Oil:

Welcome on board. First time to see a muslim turn atheist.

thanks for the warm welcome "crude oil", yeah i know its rare to see an exmuslim turn atheist, but here you have one grin grin, do you know atheists here in abuja?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 1:49pm On Jan 10, 2010
mazaje:

@ OP
.Most atheist are still hiding in their various closets because of fear of being ostracize by friends family and society. . .There are few atheist and agnostics in abuja but I know it will be hard for you to meet them. . . .

yeah i know its hard finding them, thats why am yet to meet one, but i have not given up hope,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by DeepSight(m): 2:32pm On Jan 10, 2010
So G1, TELL US WHAT LED YOU TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

I hope its not islamic extremism that made you conclude that?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 2:44pm On Jan 10, 2010
Deep Sight:

So G1, TELL US WHAT LED YOU TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST.

I hope its not islamic extremism that made you conclude that?

@ deep sight, it had nothing to do with islamic extremism, i have never come across an extremist , majority of my family are what i would call moderate muslims and about say 35% of family from my mothers side are well behaved christians, so i did not become an atheist because of the actions of some individuals or group, one of the first doubts that started to bother me about religion was the thought that anyone who did not belong of a certain faith will burn forever and ever no matter how good a person they were, so i constantaly wondered why my good christion friends and people in other faiths such as hindus will burn forever and ever just because they were born in the wrong family i.e just because they were not muslims, and it is the same for christianity too, that all the other muslims, jews and hindus too will burn forever and ever because they were not christians , so the idea of hell cast the first set of doubts in my mind, that led to other stages of doubt on other parts of religion,

i hope to explain my complete journey to atheism in another thread (its very long), my main reason for opening this thread was to look for atheist/agnostics in abuja,

i do not have a problem with people who believe in god however as long as they dont force their beliefs and morals on me thats fine by me, i still have muslims and christians in my family whom i love dearly,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by ancel(m): 2:48pm On Jan 10, 2010
@G1: Using your reasoning above, if I travel to Gobi desert and I cannot get reception on my favourite Etisalat network, so I cannot send an SMS to my girlfriend, does it mean the Etisalat network does not exist?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by DeepSight(m): 2:49pm On Jan 10, 2010
g1:

@ deep sight, it had nothing to do with islamic extremism, i have never come across an extremist , majority of my family are what i would call moderate muslims and about say 35% of family from my mothers side are well behaved christians, so i did not become an atheist because of the actions of some individuals or group, one of the first doubts that started to bother me about religion was the thought that anyone who did not belong of a certain faith will burn forever and ever no matter how good a person they were, so i constantaly wondered why my good christion friends and people in other faiths such as hindus will burn forever and ever just because they were born in the wrong family i.e just because they were not muslims, and it is the same for christianity too, that all the other muslims, jews and hindus too will burn forever and ever because they were not christians , so the idea of hell cast the first set of doubts in my mind, that led to other stages of doubt on other parts of religion,


This is okay, but you will agree that it hints at horrible religious dogma being one of the driving elements of your atheism. Religious dogma is indeed horrible, such as when certain people tell you that unless you believe in the judicial murder of a Jewish Carpenter then you are going to burn in hell. It baffles the mind that this is subscribed to by centuries of supposedly educated persons. But i want to point out that such dogma has nothing at all to do with the existence of God.
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 2:56pm On Jan 10, 2010
ancel:

@G1: Using your reasoning above, if I travel to Gobi desert and I cannot get reception on my favourite Etisalat network, so I cannot send an SMS to my girlfriend, does it mean the Etisalat network does not exist?

Deep Sight:

This is okay, but you will agree that it hints at horrible religious dogma being one of the driving elements of your atheism. Religious dogma is indeed horrible, such as when certain people tell you that unless you believe in the judicial murder of a Jewish Carpenter then you are going to burn in hell. It baffles the mind that this is subscribed to by centuries of supposedly educated persons. But i want to point out that such dogma has nothing at all to do with the existence of God.

at ancel and deep sight, i cant tell u if god exist or not, so thats why i said am not here for debate, even if god exist all am saying is that he is not part of my life,, he is not importanat to me and i am not interested in any of his religions or books, but if you believe in him thats fine by me, like i said i will open another thread with my story where we could exchange arguments about god, but please do you know any atheists here in abuja?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by DeepSight(m): 5:31pm On Jan 10, 2010
^^^ g1 - this post defines you clearly as an agnostic, and NOT AN ATHEIST.

SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR AGNOSTICS IN ABUJA - NOT ATHEISTS.

And this again affirms my proposition that most so-called atheists do not even know the meaning of atheism.
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 5:41pm On Jan 10, 2010
Deep Sight:

^^^ g1 - this post defines you clearly as an agnostic, and NOT AN ATHEIST.

SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR AGNOSTICS IN ABUJA - NOT ATHEISTS.

And this again affirms my proposition that most so-called atheists do not even know the meaning of atheism.

whatever you want to call it Deep Sight , be my guest, atheist and agnostic do not believe in a personal god, thats the bottom line,
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by g1(m): 5:42pm On Jan 10, 2010
@ deep sight, so what are you? what do you believe in?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by manmustwac(m): 10:54pm On Jan 10, 2010
@Deep Sight
do u know any athiests in abuja for our latest member?
Re: Looking For Atheist/agnostics In Abuja by RiffRaff: 1:32am On Jan 11, 2010
@ g1
welcome 2 Nairaland religion section.
I was a former muslim before turning into an athiest. There are some other ex-muslims around, only dat they are very rare.
I'm based in lagos. M lucky enough that half of my friends turn athiest after i was able 2 enlighten them about my views on religion. Some are stil religious but they are d ones in d closet weneva i am around for d fear of a long arguement dat they always find themselves speechless after.

Why not keep reading d threads here, u can discuss any topic wit d athiest here on Nairaland.

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