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Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by NairaMinted: 1:41pm On May 11, 2017
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Why Does the American Establishment Hate Russia So Much?

First of all, let me start by saying I don’t know why the American Establishment is so obsessed about Russia. I can’t think of any good reason why it should be. All Russia wants is a quiet life so that it can rebuild things – as Putin himself said, back before he was President:

The current dramatic economic and social situation in the country is the price, which we have to pay for the economy we inherited from the Soviet Union.
That was not said by someone whose principal purpose is to re-create the USSR or the Russian Empire; it’s someone who wants to re-construct the defective “economic and social situation” of his country. And that requires peace and quiet. In the real world, Russia isn’t any kind of threat whatsoever to the USA. And, one would think, when the “Terror threat looms across the world” it’s a useful and necessary ally.

I do know, and my quotations collection shows, that hostility to Russia never stopped – or even moderated – after the USSR collapsed. Even in 1990 there were people insisting that nothing was real was happening because Russia, in its very essence, was expansionist, dictatorial and hostile to “our values”. Any so-called changes were only illusions calculated to gull the simple-minded. The only possible Russia was an Enemy Russia: all Russians qua Russians – never mind the absence of the temporary Soviet carapace – imagined, thought about, dreamed of, was enmity to Us and to Our Values. Russophobes – not Russia-fearers really, but Russia-haters – had little audience as long as it seemed that Russia was sinking into insignificance. With the revival of Russia’s prospects this century the Russia-haters have come to dominate the discussion.

We hear that Russia is an “existential threat” to the USA. That charge, at least, is true: Russia’s nuclear weaponry could obliterate the USA and render it uninhabitable for decades or centuries. (At the same cost to itself, of course). But the UK, France or China could cause unacceptable damage, if not outright obliteration, too. But Washington doesn’t worry about the first two and is not obsessed about the third. And one would think that Russia’s nuclear might should have been a reason to treat it with circumspection. Apparently not.

To any objective viewer Russia is not the aggressor. Those who believe that “Putin wants a new Russian empire” should – but never do – explain why it missed the chance to put Georgia into the bag in 2008. Those who believe Russia has invaded Ukraine, never explain why why the invader still hasn’t managed to get past the Donetsk Airport. A strange reluctance to take the full mouthful: a reluctance that cries out for an explanation. But no explanation is ever presented: in their vision Russia is forever reaching but never grasping, powerful but impotent, determined but indecisive.

It’s not Russia that expanded its military alliance up to the “doorstep” of the USA. It’s not Russia that has fomented, or tried to foment, “colour revolutions” in Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, Guatemala or the USA itself. Russian military bases do not surround the USA. Its media is not full of stories about Obama’s mistresses, offshore accounts, “information war“, “hybrid war“, troll factories, thuggish propensities, hatred of homosexuals, determination to conquer neighbours, bare chested macho posing, persecution of rock groups, murder of opponents.

So, why this bizarre fixation with Russia? As I said, I don’t know: there remains something deeply irrational about it; something buried deep in the dark that can’t quite be seen.

But, forthwith, I put forth a list of possible reasons.

1. American lefties dislike Russia because it rejected socialism; indeed the Soviet experience stands as an indictment against the whole scheme.

2. Righties dislike Russia because, communist or not (and how many think it still is?) it’s still Russia.

3. Americans have to have a rival, an opponent, a counter, an enemy even. It’s geopolitical chiaroscuro: the City on The Hill must shine in the Darkness.

4. Russia is the right size of opponent. To be obsessed with Venezuela (“national security threat” though it is declared) would be unworthy for such a “great” and “winning” country. China is too big and, because it owns so much of the US economy, too dangerous, to provoke. Russia is of sufficient size to be a worthy target.

5. Russia is a safe target (or so Obama thought a year ago). US-Russia trade is small and there is little cost to being sanctimonious against Russia: bashing Russia gives a pleasing sense of moral superiority without uncomfortable consequences.

6. Maybe Russia is an ungrateful child? In the 1990s there was much talk about US aid and advice reforming Russia, the “end of history” and all that. Russia was, evidently, on the edge of becoming “just like us”. But it didn’t and such back-sliding cannot be forgiven.

7. Russia is a convenient palimpsest on which to write the presumptions you brought. Martin Malia wrote a fascinating book showing how Westerners from Voltaire onwards found Russia to be the perfect exemplar of whatever it was that they wished it to be. So, in Russia you can find whatever you’re looking for: a “geostrategic foe”, for example.

8. Given that today “human rights” have been reduced to little more than applauding sexual preferences, (Watch this Ukrainian video on why the Dutch should have voted Yes, if you think I’m overstating things) Russia is so old-fashioned that all can hate it.

9. They’re just trapped in it – they’ve been crying wolf so long and so loudly, they can’t stop.

10. The people who actually run the USA (the White-House-and-Congress/the-Deep-State: your choice) know that the USA is losing the industrial production capacity that made it Number One. Their solution, so the theory goes (Pepe Escobar’s Empire of Chaos theory), is that the only way to keep the USA (relatively) on the top is to depress the others. Chaos and instability on its borders will bog Russia down. Europe can be bogged down by using the Russian threat – in this respect, the sanctions against and by Russia are hurting Europe more than anyone. At the end, the USA will still be king of the hill even if the hill is smaller.

11. For some reason – it’s observable, even if it’s not explicable – Americans personalise everything. And, out there, visible everywhere, is Vladimir Vladimirovich. On Wednesday the Panama Papers are about him, on Thursday they are by him. Putin Derangement Syndrome sells papers and animates talk shows. Just in the month of April, for example, we have been told that Putin is going out with Murdoch’s ex-wife; we have seen both versions of the Panama Papers story; told that Dutch voters were thought-controlled by him, that he has a secret army in Europe and an army of “spy dolphins“. Putin Derangement Syndrome is getting crazier and crazier.

12. We cannot forget sheer profitability. Billions spent on an F-35 fighter, a Littoral Combat Ship, unending tank production, trillion-dollar nuclear weapons program and billions and billions more cannot be substantiated by fighting a handful of “terrorists” equipped with small arms, road-side bombs and suicide vests. Without a serious enemy, justifying big contracts, how can generals hope to get a second high-paid job in retirement? The enormous US military sector needs a capable and convincing enemy. And, other than Russia (or China – remember the pivot to Asia?), what is there?

13. There is the argument that NATO is one of the principal ways that Washington maintains its dominance over Europe and the EU. The easiest and simplest justification for NATO is a return to its earliest purpose, as Lord Ismay wittily put it, “To keep the Russians out, the Americans in and the Germans down”. The director of Stratfor has opined that the “primordial interest” of the USA has been preventing any sort of condominium between Germany and Russia. The Russia-the-eternal-enemy position provides both a justification for the continuation of NATO and a prophylactic against a Berlin-Moscow axis. It ensures a Europe that cannot stand on its own.


14. Sheer laziness. The 24/7 news cycle needs material and it’s always easiest to stick with what you have. Because Russia filled some time yesterday, it should do so again today. There’s always someone available to tell you that Putin is corrupt, or Russia is about to invade some country, or Russia is about to collapse, or Russians are hungry or some other click-bait headline. Better than celebrities and their drug or marital problems because it gives that soupçon of gravity that makes the audience feel it’s not wasting its time. The steady diet has its effect and so Russia-the-eternal-enemy comes to be casually accepted.

15. It’s clear that Putin’s team is serious and so many Western leaders are not. Also, and this cannot be denied, the team is successful. This minor country that makes nothing, where no one wants to live and which is dying is setting the course. Meanwhile, in the West…… This must infuriate the Western Establishment and that is a motive for the unceasing attempts to demean Putin & Co. It is “magical thinking“: if they repeat the charm loudly and often, maybe Russia will go away and no Western population will have to contemplate the possibility that national governments might actually do what they are paid to do.

16. The state of mind in the Obama Administration is not made better by million-view YouTube videos comparing his work-out style with Putin’s. Nor pages of sneering cartoons contrasting a macho image with a feeb. Nor pages of “Putin beats Obama”. It has been some time since people gushed over Obama’s “glistening pecs“. It would also go some distance to explain outbursts like “White House criticizes Vladimir Putin’s posture” or flippant – and self-deceiving – dismissals like “regional power acting out of weakness” or “Russia is the outlier“.

17. A subset of the above is the realisation that the Putin team has out-manoeuvred Washington at every step in the past few years. Washington was not able to overthrow Assad in Syria. The US Navy will not have a base in Sevastopol. Ukraine is a failing nightmare and its chances of joining NATO are probably lower than they were ten years ago. The sanctions regime against Russia has backfired. Russia survives low oil prices. The Moscow-Beijing axis is stronger than ever. Russia is not “isolated”. The Western Alliance is surely weaker than before. And this returns us to the “magical thinking” that we see manifested in Washington’s confused and contradictory utterances.


So abusing Russia satisfies many needs for the American Establishment: a safe opponent to swagger over; a contrast that can be painted as dark as you like; an object of feel-good moral righteousness; a sullen teenager who won’t listen to Daddy; a blank slate on which to write; a pretend enemy we can make a fortune out of; a useful bogeyman to frighten allies into obedience; gossip for pseudo-intellectuals. Many things at once.

But, the cost is rising.

What has changed is the conviction that Russia is a low-cost opponent. It’s very interesting to read things like this “If Russia Started a War in the Baltics, NATO Would Lose — Quickly” and “I am very concerned about the increasing risk of loss of U.S. military technological superiority” from the US defence establishment. Perhaps it’s just an attempt to screw more money out of Congress but these are certainly not things that could have been said in 2000.

It’s amazing the effect that a few insignificant boats in the Caspian Sea had, isn’t it?

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by vantage001: 4:42pm On May 11, 2017
While the Russian establishment love America so much. cheesy
Thank you for these unbiased article.

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 6:54pm On May 11, 2017
vantage001:
While the Russian establishment love America so much. cheesy
Thank you for these unbiased article.
Good point.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by NairaMinted: 8:50pm On May 11, 2017
vantage001:
While the Russian establishment love America so much. cheesy
Thank you for these unbiased article.

The Russian establishment, media (or people) do not spend their entire time obsessing over Amerika and labeling it the enemy.

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 9:33pm On May 11, 2017
NairaMinted:


The Russian establishment, media (or people) do not spend their entire time obsessing over Amerika and labeling it the enemy.
You know that because you live in Russia.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by NairaMinted: 11:13pm On May 12, 2017
Lucasbalo:
You know that because you live in Russia.

Lol! If you have nothing of substance to say, why don't you butt out?

TV show hosts, members of congress, the media & the intelligence community all sing "Russians, Russians!" all day. It's a daily hysteria. They can't get by a day without focusing on it. It's so bad that the media chases Putin down a tunnel prior to a hockey game for his views on the sacking of Comey. How on earth is this of any concern to Russia? A totally domestic matter? Amerika is truly amusing us all and we are enjoying the show I must admit.

Now, it's your turn to tell me how Russia is obsessed with Amerika....1,2,3...

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 11:30pm On May 12, 2017
NairaMinted:


Lol! If you have nothing of substance to say, why don't you butt out?

TV show hosts, members of congress, the media & the intelligence community all sing "Russians, Russians!" all day. It's a daily hysteria. They can't get by a day without focusing on it. It's so bad that the media chases Putin down a tunnel prior to a hockey game for his views on the sacking of Comey. How on earth is this of any concern to Russia? A totally domestic matter? Amerika is truly amusing us all and we are enjoying the show I must admit.

Now, it's your turn to tell me how Russia is obsessed with Amerika....1,2,3...
That's the problem with you and your commie friends. America's hatred in your DNA. How do you know Russians are not talking or obsessed about America ?. Do you watch Russian TV or Cable News in Nigeria or do you live in Russia and speak Russian. You can foam in the mouth about America all you want but the Eagle will keep soaring. Worry about people stealing the commonwealth dry in Nigeria while people like you eat crumps that falls off their table. America is not the reason for your predicament in life. Some of us will defend America's honor. America is not perfect because no country is but I will take America anytime over any other country.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Zoharariel(m): 11:42pm On May 12, 2017
Lucasbalo:
That's the problem with you and your commie friends. America's hatred in your DNA. How do you know Russians are not talking or obsessed about America ?. Do you watch Russian TV or Cable News in Nigeria or do you live in Russia and speak Russian. You can foam in the mouth about America all you want but the Eagle will keep soaring. Worry about people stealing the commonwealth dry in Nigeria while people like you eat crumps that falls off their table. America is not the reason for your predicament in life. Some of us will defend America's honor. America is not perfect because no country is but I will take America anytime over any other country.

One man's meat is another man's poison. As for me, I will take Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, North Korea, Cuba, Nigeria, China & Mother Russia over Amerika, Britain & Israel anyday grin

Cheers! grin cheesy grin

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 11:46pm On May 12, 2017
Zoharariel:


One man's meat is another man's poison. As for me, I will take Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, North Korea, Cuba, Nigeria, China & Mother Russia over Amerika, Britain & Israel anyday grin

Cheers! grin cheesy grin
You know that if I hate one thing about America, it's her jingoism. I hate the military interventionism of my government. It is a different game if America is threatened or attacked. I hate all wars and that's my problem with Obama as much love as I have for that brother.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by NairaMinted: 11:54pm On May 12, 2017
Lucasbalo:
That's the problem with you and your commie friends. America's hatred in your DNA. How do you know Russians are not talking or obsessed about America ?. Do you watch Russian TV or Cable News in Nigeria or do you live in Russia and speak Russian. You can foam in the mouth about America all you want but the Eagle will keep soaring. Worry about people stealing the commonwealth dry in Nigeria while people like you eat crumps that falls off their table. America is not the reason for your predicament in life. Some of us will defend America's honor. America is not perfect because no country is but I will take America anytime over any other country.

Whatever it is that you've been through or whatever it is that you are presently going through I hope that you have the fortitude to overcome it cos I don't understand your obsession with the livelihood of others or how others are faring in life while "debating" politics. I'm sure psychiatrists will probably boil this strange behavior to some sort of feeling of inadequacy bedeviling you. Anyway, that's besides the point...

Uncle Tom, still waiting for links on how Russians are obsessed about Amerika. Their major news outlets are in English by the way. So I'm waiting..........Can't wait forever though. I don't live on Nairaland like you do

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 12:00am On May 13, 2017
NairaMinted:


Whatever it is that you've been through or whatever it is that you are presently going through I hope that you have the fortitude to overcome it cos I don't understand your obsession with the livelihood of others or how others are faring in life while "debating" politics. I'm sure psychiatrists will probably boil this strange behavior to some sort of feeling of inadequacy bedeviling you. Anyway, that's besides the point...

Uncle Tom, still waiting for links on how Russians are obsessed about Amerika. Their major news outlets are in English by the way. So I'm waiting..........Can't wait forever though. I don't live on Nairaland like you do
Here we go again for a fool throwing shady insults. Will let this slide. I was expecting you to Holla at me when you said you were coming to Chicago last March. Who visits Chicago in March ?. Tales by the moonlight.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by NairaMinted: 12:04am On May 13, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Here we go again for a fool throwing shady insults. Will let this slide. I was expecting you to Holla at me when you said you were coming to Chicago last March. Who visits Chicago in March ?. Tales by the moonlight.

Hilarious! Seems like I struck a nerve. I see you can't answer but rather resort to deflection as usual. I'm off to bed.

Till we tango again, ciao!

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 12:10am On May 13, 2017
NairaMinted:


Hilarious! Seems like I struck a nerve. I see you can't answer but rather resort to deflection as usual. I'm off to bed.

Till we tango again, ciao!
Dumbo, your post makes no sense when you called me Uncle Tom. Like I said, America is not the cause of your woes in life. Whatever it is, go find a cure for it.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 12:13am On May 13, 2017
NairaMinted:


Hilarious! Seems like I struck a nerve. I see you can't answer but rather resort to deflection as usual. I'm off to bed.

Till we tango again, ciao!
Not surprised you are not sleeping after midnight . Mosquitos must be doing a job on you. Sorry, God will comfort you.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Missy89(f): 12:13am On May 13, 2017
Complete crap!

I can’t think of any good reason why it should be. All Russia wants is a quiet life so that it can rebuild things – as Putin himself said, back before he was President:

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like annexing neighboring countries with little green men?

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like moving troops to Syria to defend a blood thirsty dictator?
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 12:17am On May 13, 2017
Missy89:
Complete crap!

I can’t think of any good reason why it should be. All Russia wants is a quiet life so that it can rebuild things – as Putin himself said, back before he was President:

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like annexing neighboring countries with little green men?

Missy, you are absolutely on point.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by BAILMONEY: 12:17am On May 13, 2017
OH GOD PLEASE DASH ALHAJI LUCASBALO SOME SENSE sad

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 12:20am On May 13, 2017
BAILMONEY:
OH GOD PLEASE DASH ALHAJI LUCASBALO SOME SENSE sad
Devil will dash you that poisonous sense that you deserve. Lol
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Missy89(f): 10:33am On May 13, 2017
It’s not Russia that expanded its military alliance up to the “doorstep” of the USA. It’s not Russia that has fomented, or tried to foment, “colour revolutions” in Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, Guatemala or the USA itself. Russian military bases do not surround the USA. Its media is not full of stories about Obama’s mistresses, offshore accounts, “information war“, “hybrid war“, troll factories, thuggish propensities, hatred of homosexuals, determination to conquer neighbours, bare chested macho posing, persecution of rock groups, murder of opponents.

This paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. This idea that America's military alliance is at "Russia doorstep" is rubbish.

Most Eastern European countries that joined NATO have a good reason to do so even without America's persuasion. All you have to do is read basic history. They were subjugated for years after the second world war under Russia's Bolsheviks. While America was busy rebuilding Western Europe, Korea and Japan, Russia was killing as many people in Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and the Baltic states it could ( This is after killing millions of its own citizens in a civil war). And you wonder why they want to be part of NATO?

I bet you haven't watch a Russia's local media before and notice the obsession about America.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by DictatorZAR1: 3:45pm On May 13, 2017
Missy89:
It’s not Russia that expanded its military alliance up to the “doorstep” of the USA. It’s not Russia that has fomented, or tried to foment, “colour revolutions” in Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, Guatemala or the USA itself. Russian military bases do not surround the USA. Its media is not full of stories about Obama’s mistresses, offshore accounts, “information war“, “hybrid war“, troll factories, thuggish propensities, hatred of homosexuals, determination to conquer neighbours, bare chested macho posing, persecution of rock groups, murder of opponents.

This paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. This idea that America's military alliance is at "Russia doorstep" is rubbish.

Most Eastern European countries that joined NATO have a good reason to do so even without America's persuasion. All you have to do is read basic history. They were subjugated for years after the second world war under Russia's Bolsheviks. While America was busy rebuilding Western Europe, Korea and Japan, Russia was killing as many people in Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and the Baltic states it could ( This is after killing millions of its own citizens in a civil war). And you wonder why they want to be part of NATO?

I bet you haven't watch a Russia's local media before and notice the obsession about America.

Just one question my dear "mischievous" how many countries has the US and its Nato goons attacked in the last 20years in the name of freedom and "democrazy" compared the "Evil expansionist Russian Armada " who is at Europe's doorstep preparing to invade free democratic states.

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by bookface: 11:09pm On May 13, 2017
NairaMinted:


Whatever it is that you've been through or whatever it is that you are presently going through I hope that you have the fortitude to overcome it cos I don't understand your obsession with the livelihood of others or how others are faring in life while "debating" politics. I'm sure psychiatrists will probably boil this strange behavior to some sort of feeling of inadequacy bedeviling you. Anyway, that's besides the point...

Uncle Tom, still waiting for links on how Russians are obsessed about Amerika. Their major news outlets are in English by the way. So I'm waiting..........Can't wait forever though. I don't live on Nairaland like you do


Just go on RT, TASS, Sputnik to name a few, there is almost no chance you won't find some article castigating Americans...There's no chance you would watch a Putin interview without him castigating America. And you claim it's the other way round?

Truth is, many Americans don't even know where Russia is until the recent elections.

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by romme2u: 12:44am On May 14, 2017
still on this matter

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by vitalstat: 10:25am On May 14, 2017
Why American establishment hates Russia so much? Answer is on vitalstat.
However I'll say succinctly that its because Russia under Putin is the only nation powerful enough to challenge USA military(besides China )and Putin is the only leader with the strength of character to tell US to its face what its doing is wrong unlike other American vassal nations like UK, Canada, Germany etc who bow painstakingly to the US. He also hasn't been forgiven for preventing US's attack on Syria in 2013 and for exposing the US as falsely accusing Assad of using chemical weapons, inter alia

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by vitalstat: 10:54am On May 14, 2017
...and if i may add, Washington needs an "enemy" constantly for its military/national security lobby to continue making billions from arms sales to US armed forces for its unending wars. It was then the "evil empire ", Soviet Union and after its collapse Islam and middle east and now Washington is running out of enemies so now back to Russia as its the most feasible especially 'cause Putin has improved its economy and military to possessing some of the most sophisticated military designs and weaponry in the world plus its ban on GMO in Russia which has infuriated Washington, Monsanto and others in Agribusiness imdustry

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by vitalstat: 11:56am On May 14, 2017
Oh and by the way, type "illuminati" backwards, as in "itanimulli.com" in your browser and enter
Tell us what you see
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 2:01pm On May 14, 2017
bookface:



Just go on RT, TASS, Sputnik to name a few, there is almost no chance you won't find some article castigating Americans...There's no chance you would watch a Putin interview without him castigating America. And you claim it's the other way round?

Truth is, many Americans don't even know where Russia is until the recent elections.

Thank you. Tell that blockhead that's so hateful of anything America or American. Overwhelming amount of americans don't give a fvck about Russia because they are busy looking for their daily bread unlike The Hate America Club Members on Nairaland.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by DictatorZAR1: 7:41pm On May 14, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Thank you. Tell that blockhead that's so hateful of anything America or American. Overwhelming amount of americans don't give a fvck about Russia because they are busy looking for their daily bread unlike The Hate America Club Members on Nairaland.

Now why does America give a fccck about other countries who clearly don't give a fcccck about them.

Is it because american multinationals gives a fccck about gaining more loot or is it that american Presidents care so much about the innocent villages they bomb daily in the name of a "freedom and universal justice".

Go school yourself on US foreign policy ASP

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Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Lucasbalo(m): 8:26pm On May 14, 2017
DictatorZAR1:


Now why does America give a fccck about other countries who clearly don't give a fcccck about them.

Is it because american multinationals gives a fccck about gaining more loot or is it that american Presidents care so much about the innocent villages they bomb daily in the name of a "freedom and universal justice".

Go school yourself on US foreign policy ASP
I said it here before that I don't care for American interventionism. If left to me I would withdraw American troops overseas . I am all against war as long as America is not threatened or attacked. Would rather want my tax dollars be used to upgrade America infrastructures. My point to the hate America club members is that they see nothing good about America but people like me will defend America's honor.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jul 07, 2017
Missy89:
Complete crap!

I can’t think of any good reason why it should be. All Russia wants is a quiet life so that it can rebuild things – as Putin himself said, back before he was President:

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like annexing neighboring countries with little green men?

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like moving troops to Syria to defend a blood thirsty dictator?
Really? Russia fought a 45yrs war wif the U.S do u knw that? ever heard of the cuba missile crises? do u even knw Russia and U.S still fighting? N.korea threating to nuke the u.s do u knw the connection to Russia? Russia policies is never abt a quiet life but grow so is china.
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 07, 2017
vitalstat:
...and if i may add, Washington needs an "enemy" constantly for its military/national security lobby to continue making billions from arms sales to US armed forces for its unending wars. It was then the "evil empire ", Soviet Union and after its collapse Islam and middle east and now Washington is running out of enemies so now back to Russia as its the most feasible especially 'cause Putin has improved its economy and military to possessing some of the most sophisticated military designs and weaponry in the world plus its ban on GMO in Russia which has infuriated Washington, Monsanto and others in Agribusiness imdustry
Russia and U.S have fought a long war against each other read history
Re: Why Does The American Establishment Hate Russia So Much? by alanka(f): 9:59pm On Jul 09, 2017
Missy89:
Complete crap!

I can’t think of any good reason why it should be. All Russia wants is a quiet life so that it can rebuild things – as Putin himself said, back before he was President:

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like annexing neighboring countries with little green men?

"Quiet life and rebuild things" like moving troops to Syria to defend a blood thirsty dictator?
lack of critical thinking among the people here makes it tiresome.

I will be waiting till the day people with metacognition, unbiased or low biased tendency people come here

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