I saw on Nairaland this morning an argument among Christians, Muslims, and atheists perhaps. The argument concerns the belief that since Muslims don't believe in Jesus' teachings, they won't make heaven! Do you realize that as Christians, you won't make heaven too if you do not follow Allah's teaching that Christians don't follow? Doesn't this whole thing sound absurd now? I think there shouldn't be any argument. Do you know why? If you are a father, a loving father who claims to love your children and you tell your children to do good to go to heaven or do evil to go to hell. If your children choose evil, will you burn them in an eternal fire if you could just make them disappear forever even if those that do good are resurrected? Answer this question oooooo. Plus, Christians who do good should just go to their own heaven, while Muslims should go to their own heaven since you both have your different requirements for going to heaven. Atheists too should go to their own heaven. Is that hard for you, Christians, Muslims, and atheists?

Most christians especially those in the West have started throwing away the hell idea. Hell was invented by the stone age barbarians, but the modern humane christians are discarding and running away from it. Most christians will tell you that hell is simply a place of sepa ration from God not a firey place of eternal torture.

They've all seen through the sadistic and barbaric idea and have started dropping it and running away from it. Few people talk about hell these days.


It is the muslims that gladly and happily talk about hell as an eternal place of torture because Islam and terrorism go hand in hand. The mindset of the muslim hasn't evolved yet. They aren't as humane as the christians. Islam has used too much fear to entrap and enslave their minds and they can't reason clearly.

Aybody that believes in hell as an eternal place of torture because of unbelief is a terrorist.

What's d different between Nigeria, poverty and hell

dalaman:
Most christians especially those in the West have started throwing away the hell idea. Hell was invented by the stone age barbarians, but the modern human christians are discarding and running away from it. Most christians will tell you that hell is simply a place of sepa ration from God not a firey place of eternal torture.

They've all seen through the sadistic and barbaric idea and have started dropping it and running away from it. Few people talk about he'll these days.


It is the muslims that gladly and happily talk about he'll as an eternal place of tor ture because Islam and terrorism go hand in hand. The mindset of the muslim hasn't evolved yet. They aren't as humane as the christians. Islam has used too much fr to.entrap and enslave their minds and they can't reason clearly.

Aybody that believes in hell as an eternal place of torture because of unbelief is a terrorist.

To say most Christians are now doing away with the existence of hell is a complete fallacy. How could you say "most" without evidence? With that, I disregarded the rest after seeing other loopholes. Your reasoning is defending the Christians in a fallacious manner. Note: I am a Christian.

solasolasola:
To say most Christians are now doing away with the existence of hell is a complete fallacy. How could you say "most" without evidence? With that, I disregarded the rest after seeing other loopholes. Your reasoning is defending the Christians in a fallacious manner. Note: I am a Christian.

I said Christians in the West(Europe and America). I am not defending christians, I am only stating what I see happening around me. Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man.

dalaman:


I said Christians in the West(Europe and America). I am not defending christians, I am only stating what I see happening around me. Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man.[/quote[quote author=dalaman post=56573797]

I said Christians in the West(Europe and America). I am not defending christians, I am only stating what I see happening around me. Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man.

"Christians in the West" may God bless you. Those ones taught us the religion and they are rational with it. But here, we believe we know it better than they do. That's even not the point. The point is the issue of punishing people in hell by a loving father just because the children choose evil is uncharacteristic.

dalaman:


I said Christians in the West(Europe and America). I am not defending christians, I am only stating what I see happening around me. Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man.

so you do go to church on Sunday even as an atheist . that nice.

malvisguy212:
so you do go to church on Sunday even as an atheist . that nice.

I've stopped going to church.

dalaman:


I've stopped going to church.

this is from your post:

" Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man."

if you don't go to Church how do you know pastors in the west don't preach hell anymore. ?

malvisguy212:
this is from your post:

" Go to the average church in Europe or America. They don't preach hell at all and majority of the main stream christian apologist just say that hell is a separation between God and man."

if you don't go to Church how do you know pastors in the west don't preach hell anymore. ?

I've lived in Europe and America as a christian so I know what goes on in their churches.

dalaman:


I've lived in Europe and America as a christian so I know what goes on in their churches.

when last did you go to church ?

malvisguy212:
when last did you go to church ?

Last year. Went for a child dedication.

dalaman:


Last year. Went for a child dedication.

you went for a child dedication last year, and you learn In the sermon that Christians don't believe in hell anymore ? okay.

malvisguy212:
you went for a child dedication last year, and you learn In the sermon that Christians don't believe in hell anymore ? okay.

I was specific about the christians. I said Christians in the West not you sadistic christians in Africa. Most christians in Europe and America don't believe in hell. They don't preach it . Even those that do, say it is separation btw man and God. The few that preach about hell as a firery place of eternal torture are looked at as foolish people. Example the Westborough baptist church. The preach exactly what people in Nigeria preach but they are considered to be a hate organization because they tell gays that they will burn in hell.

Hell is like tell a little child if he misbehave "that gorilla from baby day out" will carry him. when I was young, I used this tactics to keep our last born in line, and it worked

onyenze123:
Hell is like tell a little child if he misbehave "that gorilla from baby day out" will carry him. when I was young, I used this tactics to keep our last born in line, and it worked

ayourbamie:
What's d different between Nigeria, poverty and hell

Abeg help me ask them o

Any body that believes in hell is a terrorist.

dalaman:
Any body that believes in hell is a terrorist.

Lwkmd

There is no such place as hell or hellfire as others like to call it.. ..Ezekiel 18:4 say the soul that sins will surely die.. ....death is the wages sin pays.. ....the highest punishment God will exact for unrepentant sin.. ...which is the eternal revocation of one's life.. .....everlasting death or destruction. Life from God is a true gift, while the doctrine of everlasting torment was invented by Satan to make God look sadistic, when the Bible clearly teaches that God is love

anneboleyn:
There is no such place as hell or hellfire as others like to call it.. ..Ezekiel 18:4 say the soul that sins will surely die.. ....death is the wages sin pays.. ....the highest punishment God will exact for unrepentant sin.. ...which is the eternal revocation of one's life.. .....everlasting death or destruction. Life from God is a true gift, while the doctrine of everlasting torment was invented by Satan to make God look sadistic, when the Bible clearly teaches that God is love

But according to Mark 9: 43, there is hell. How do we reconcile these things? I just seek knowledge.