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The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by phemmyfour: 5:44pm On May 23, 2017
The late Tiv warrior, Gideon Orkar's, coup speech, April 1990

Fellow Nigerian citizens,
On behalf of the patriotic and well-meaning peoples of the Middle Belt and the southern parts of this country, I , Major Gideon Orka, wish to happily inform you of the successful ousting of the dictatorial, corrupt, drug baronish, evil man, deceitful, homo-sexually-centered, prodigalistic, un-patriotic administration of General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida.

We have equally commenced their trials for unabated corruption, mismanagement of national economy, the murders of Dele Giwa, Major-General Mamman Vasta, with other officers as there was no attempted coup but mere intentions that were yet to materialize and other human rights violations.

The National Guard already in its formative stage is disbanded with immediate effect. Decrees Number 2 and 46 are hereby abrogated. We wish to emphasis that this is not just another coup but a well conceived, planned and executed revolution for the marginalized, oppressed and enslaved peoples of the Middle Belt and the south with a view to freeing ourselves and children yet unborn from eternal slavery and colonization by a clique of this country.

Our history is replete with numerous and uncontrollable instances of callous and insensitive dominatory repressive intrigues by those who think it is their birthright to dominate till eternity the political and economic privileges of this great country to the exclusion of the people of the Middle Belt and the south.

They have almost succeeded in subjugating the Middle Belt and making them voiceless and now extending same to the south. It is our unflinching belief that this quest for domination, oppression and marginalization is against the wish of God and therefore, must be resisted with the vehemence. Anything that has a beginning must have an end.

It will also suffice here to state that all Nigerians without skeleton in their cupboards need not to be afraid of this change. However, those with skeleton in their cupboards have all reasons to fear, because the time of reckoning has come. For the avoidance of doubt, we wish to state the three primary reasons why we have decided to oust the satanic Babangida administration.

The reasons are as follows:

(a) To stop Babangida’s desire to cunningly, install himself as Nigeria’s life president at all costs and by so doing, retard the progress of this country for life.

In order to be able to achieve this undesirable goals of his, he has evidently started destroying those groups and sections he perceived as being able to question his desires. Examples of groups already neutralized, pitched against one another or completely destroyed are:

(1) The Sokoto caliphate by installing an unwanted Sultan to cause division within the hitherto strong Sokoto caliphate.

(2) The destruction of the peoples of Plateau State, especially the Lantang people, as a balancing force in the body politics of this country.

(3) The buying of the press by generous monetary favours and the usage of State Security Service, SSS, as a tool of terror.

(4) The intent to cow the students by the promulgation of the draconian decree Number 47.

(5) The cowing of the university teaching and non-teaching staff by an intended massive purge, using the 150 million dollar loan as the necessitating factor.

(6) Deliberately withholding funds to the armed forces to make them ineffective and also crowning his diabolical scheme through the intended retrenchment of more than half of the members of the armed forces.

Other pointers that give credence to his desire to become a life president against the wishes of the people are:

(1) His appointment of himself as a minister of defense, his putting under his direct control the SSS, his deliberate manipulation of the transition programme, his introduction of inconceivable, unrealistic and impossible political options, his recent fraternisation with other African leaders that have installed themselves as life presidents and his dogged determination to create a secret force called the national guard, independent of the armed forces and the police which will be answerable to himself alone, both operationally and administratively.

It is our strong view that this kind of dictatorial desire of Babangida is unacceptable to Nigerians of the 1990’s, and, therefore, must be resisted by all. Another major reason for the change is the need to stop intrigues, domination and internal colonisation of the Nigerian state by the so-called chosen few.

This, in our view, has been and is still responsible for 90 percent of the problems of Nigerians. This indeed has been the major clog in our wheel of progress. This clique has an unabated penchant for domination and unrivalled fostering of mediocrity and outright detest for accountability, all put together have been our undoing as a nation. This will ever remain our threat if not checked immediately.

It is strongly believed that without the intrigues perpetrated by this clique and misrule, Nigeria will have in all ways achieved developmental virtues comparable to those in Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, India, and even Japan. Evidence, therefore, this cancerous dominance has as a factor constituted by a major and unpardonable clog in the wheel of progress of the Nigerian state. (Sic) It is suffice to mention a few distasteful intrigues engineered by this group of Nigerians in recent past.

These are:

(1) The shabby and dishonourable treatment meted on the longest serving Nigerian general in the person of General Domkat Bali, who in actual fact had given credibility to the Babangida administration.

(2) The wholesale hijacking of Babangida’s administration by the all powerful clique.

(3) The disgraceful and inexplicable removal of Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe, Professor Tam David-West, Mr. Aret Adams and so on from office.

(4) The now-pervasive and on-going retrenchment of Middle Belt and southerners from public offices and their instant replacement by the favoured class and their stooges.

(5) The deliberate disruption of the educational culture and retarding its place to suit the favoured class to the detriment of other educational minded parts of this country.

(6) The deliberate impoverishment of the peoples from the Middle Belt and the south, making them working ghosts and feeding on the formulae of 0-1-1- or 0-0-0 while the aristocratic class and their stooges are living in absolute affluence on a daily basis without working for it.

(7) Other countless examples of the exploitative, oppressive, dirty games of intrigues of its class, where people and stooges that can best be described by the fact that even though they contribute very little economically to the well being of Nigeria, they have over the years served and presided over the supposedly national wealth derived in the main from the Middle Belt and the southern part of this country, while the people from these parts of the country have been completely deprived from benefiting from the resources given to them by God.

(cool The third reason for the change is the need to lay a strong egalitarian foundation for the real democratic take off of the Nigerian state or states as they circumstances may dictate.

In the light of all the above and in recognition of the negativeness of the aforementioned aristocratic factor, the overall progress of the Nigerian state a temporary decision to excise the following states namely, Sokoto, Borno, Katsina, Kano and Bauchi states from the Federal Republic of Nigeria comes into effect immediately until the following conditions are met.

The conditions to be met to necessitate the re-absorption of the aforementioned states are as following:

(a) To install the rightful heir to the Sultanate, Alhaji Maccido, who is the people’s choice.

(b) To send a delegation led by the real and recognised Sultan Alhaji Maccido to the federal government to vouch that the feudalistic and aristocratic quest for domination and operation will be a thing of the past and will never be practised in any part of the Nigeria state.

By the same token, all citizens of the five states already mentioned are temporarily suspended from all public and private offices in Middle Belt and southern parts of this country until the mentioned conditions above are met.

They are also required to move back to their various states within one week from today. They will, however, be allowed to return and joint the Federal Republic of Nigeria when the stipulated conditions are met. In the same vein, all citizens of the Middle Belt and the south are required to come back to their various states pending when the so-called all-in-all Nigerians meet the conditions that will ensure a united Nigeria. A word is enough for the wise.

This exercise will not be complete without purging corrupt public officials and recovering their ill-gotten wealth, since the days of the oil boom till date. Even in these hard times, when Nigerians are dying from hunger, trekking many miles to work for lack of transportation, a few other Nigerians with complete impunity are living in unbelievable affluence both inside and outside the country.

We are extremely determined to recover all ill-gotten wealth back to the public treasury for the use of the masses of our people. You are all advised to remain calm as there is no cause for alarm.

We are fully in control of the situation as directed by God. All airports, seaports and borders are closed forthwith. The former Armed Forces Ruling Council is now disbanded and replaced with National Ruling Council to be chaired by the head of state with other members being a civilian vice-head of state, service chiefs, inspector general of police, one representative each from NLC, NUJ, NBA, and NANS.

A curfew is hereby imposed from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. until further notice. All members of the armed forces and the police forces are hereby confined to their respective barracks.

All unlawful and criminal acts by those attempting to cause chaos will be ruthlessly crushed. Be warned as we are prepared at all costs to defend the new order. All radio stations are hereby advised to hook on permanently to the national network programme until further notice.

Long live all true patriots of this great country of ours. May God and Allah through his bountiful mercies bless us all.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Feraz(m): 6:49pm On May 23, 2017
Hmmm....seems the same is still happening.

Anyway, now that the middle belt has woken up and most are tired of being grouped with the core north, let's see what becomes of it.

And erm...why didn't he succeed in his coup?

CC Malton.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by ukenke: 6:59pm On May 23, 2017
Brilliant Gideon Orkar. The issues he raised are still there till today.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by phemmyfour: 7:02pm On May 23, 2017
Feraz:
Hmmm....seems the same is still happening.

Anyway, now that the middle belt has woken up and most are tired of being grouped with the core north, let's see what becomes of it.

And erm...why didn't he succeed in his coup?

CC Malton.
IBB turned things around. Evil genius just refused to bow
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by limeta(f): 7:32pm On May 23, 2017
One is born every day

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by malton: 7:33pm On May 23, 2017
Feraz:
Hmmm....seems the same is still happening.

Anyway, now that the middle belt has woken up and most are tired of being grouped with the core north, let's see what becomes of it.

And erm...why didn't he succeed in his coup?

CC Malton.

The coup failed mainly because IBB got tipped off in good time to allow him escape Dodan Barracks with his family. He also enlisted the help of Sani Abacha, the then COAS, who shielded him in the aftermath of the coup attempt.

Other accounts claim that the coup failed due to the assassination of UK Bello, IBB's ADC and Orkar's trusted hand and friend. So emotions got in the way, causing confusion amongst the coup plotters.

Those are the reasons as far as I know, from the accounts I've read.

The fulani herdsmen issue has opened everyone's eyes to current realities. One cannot be too careful of the Hausa/Fulani.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Nobody: 7:36pm On May 23, 2017
How will someone like Omenka and Kyase view Gideon Orkah embarassed
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Nature8(m): 8:15pm On May 23, 2017
embarassed
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by onyfrank: 8:42pm On May 23, 2017
One day Monkey go go market I go catch am
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by kuuljay(m): 8:57pm On May 23, 2017
malton:


The coup failed mainly because IBB got tipped off in good time to allow him escape Dodan Barracks with his family. He also enlisted the help of Sani Abacha, the then COAS, who shielded him in the aftermath of the coup attempt.

Other accounts claim that the coup failed due to the assassination of UK Bello, IBB's ADC and Orkar's trusted hand and friend. So emotions got in the way, causing confusion amongst the coup plotters.

The fulani herdsmen issue has opened everyone's eyes to current realities. One cannot be too careful of the Hausa/Fulani.
orkars coup was a success its just that orkar announced seccesion too early thereby causing concussion in his cohorts nobody expected that from him,not even his own guys,and mind you he was drunk too

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Gravas(m): 9:25pm On May 23, 2017
kuuljay:
orkars coup was a success its just that orkar announced seccesion too early thereby causing concussion in his cohorts nobody expected that from him,not even his own guys,and mind you he was drunk too

I agree with you.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by malton: 9:29pm On May 23, 2017
kuuljay:
orkars coup was a success its just that orkar announced seccesion too early thereby causing concussion in his cohorts nobody expected that from him,not even his own guys,and mind you he was drunk too

Okay


Thanks for the clarification. Those were the accounts I was aware of.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by EazyMoh(m): 9:46pm On May 23, 2017
kuuljay:
orkars coup was a success its just that orkar announced seccesion too early thereby causing concussion in his cohorts nobody expected that from him,not even his own guys,and mind you he was drunk too
Lol! The speech truly sounds drunken.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Kyase(m): 9:47pm On May 23, 2017
Kathmandu:
How will someone like Omenka and Kyase view Gideon Orkah embarassed
respect yourself mam
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by ANTONINEUTRON(m): 10:01pm On May 23, 2017
But IBB Is 4rm Middle Belt (nupe)
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by EazyMoh(m): 10:07pm On May 23, 2017
ANTONINEUTRON:
But IBB Is 4rm Middle Belt (nupe)
The coup just seems confused.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by ANTONINEUTRON(m): 10:19pm On May 23, 2017
EazyMoh:
The coup just seems confused.
Yea
Seems It's Just D Greediness In Every Nigerian That Played Out.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by bubu2019: 10:33pm On May 23, 2017
Kyase:
respect yourself mam
answer him,
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Kyase(m): 10:37pm On May 23, 2017
bubu2019:
answer him,
she said nothing for me to answer oneh
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by paramakina202: 10:38pm On May 23, 2017
Feraz:
Hmmm....seems the same is still happening.

Anyway, now that the middle belt has woken up and most are tired of being grouped with the core north, let's see what becomes of it.

And erm...why didn't he succeed in his coup?

CC Malton.
Are you sure they've woken up?
Paul Unongo still speaks trash for the North.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by malton: 10:41pm On May 23, 2017
paramakina202:

Are you sure they've woken up?
Paul Unongo still speaks trash for the North.

He's just one man, bro.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by paramakina202: 10:46pm On May 23, 2017
malton:


He's just one man, bro.

Sorry bro,I am not convinced!
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by malton: 10:56pm On May 23, 2017
paramakina202:


Sorry bro,I am not convinced!

I wasn't looking to convince you.

Just saying!

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Day169: 11:48pm On May 23, 2017
..just wondering what would've become of this country if the coup had succeeded.

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by XAUBulls: 2:54pm On Jun 20, 2023
phemmyfour:
The late Tiv warrior, Gideon Orkar's, coup speech, April 1990

Fellow Nigerian citizens,
On behalf of the patriotic and well-meaning peoples of the Middle Belt and the southern parts of this country, I , Major Gideon Orka, wish to happily inform you of the successful ousting of the dictatorial, corrupt, drug baronish, evil man, deceitful, homo-sexually-centered, prodigalistic, un-patriotic administration of General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida.

We have equally commenced their trials for unabated corruption, mismanagement of national economy, the murders of Dele Giwa, Major-General Mamman Vasta, with other officers as there was no attempted coup but mere intentions that were yet to materialize and other human rights violations.

The National Guard already in its formative stage is disbanded with immediate effect. Decrees Number 2 and 46 are hereby abrogated. We wish to emphasis that this is not just another coup but a well conceived, planned and executed revolution for the marginalized, oppressed and enslaved peoples of the Middle Belt and the south with a view to freeing ourselves and children yet unborn from eternal slavery and colonization by a clique of this country.

Our history is replete with numerous and uncontrollable instances of callous and insensitive dominatory repressive intrigues by those who think it is their birthright to dominate till eternity the political and economic privileges of this great country to the exclusion of the people of the Middle Belt and the south.

They have almost succeeded in subjugating the Middle Belt and making them voiceless and now extending same to the south. It is our unflinching belief that this quest for domination, oppression and marginalization is against the wish of God and therefore, must be resisted with the vehemence. Anything that has a beginning must have an end.

It will also suffice here to state that all Nigerians without skeleton in their cupboards need not to be afraid of this change. However, those with skeleton in their cupboards have all reasons to fear, because the time of reckoning has come. For the avoidance of doubt, we wish to state the three primary reasons why we have decided to oust the satanic Babangida administration.

The reasons are as follows:

(a) To stop Babangida’s desire to cunningly, install himself as Nigeria’s life president at all costs and by so doing, retard the progress of this country for life.

In order to be able to achieve this undesirable goals of his, he has evidently started destroying those groups and sections he perceived as being able to question his desires. Examples of groups already neutralized, pitched against one another or completely destroyed are:

(1) The Sokoto caliphate by installing an unwanted Sultan to cause division within the hitherto strong Sokoto caliphate.

(2) The destruction of the peoples of Plateau State, especially the Lantang people, as a balancing force in the body politics of this country.

(3) The buying of the press by generous monetary favours and the usage of State Security Service, SSS, as a tool of terror.

(4) The intent to cow the students by the promulgation of the draconian decree Number 47.

(5) The cowing of the university teaching and non-teaching staff by an intended massive purge, using the 150 million dollar loan as the necessitating factor.

(6) Deliberately withholding funds to the armed forces to make them ineffective and also crowning his diabolical scheme through the intended retrenchment of more than half of the members of the armed forces.

Other pointers that give credence to his desire to become a life president against the wishes of the people are:

(1) His appointment of himself as a minister of defense, his putting under his direct control the SSS, his deliberate manipulation of the transition programme, his introduction of inconceivable, unrealistic and impossible political options, his recent fraternisation with other African leaders that have installed themselves as life presidents and his dogged determination to create a secret force called the national guard, independent of the armed forces and the police which will be answerable to himself alone, both operationally and administratively.

It is our strong view that this kind of dictatorial desire of Babangida is unacceptable to Nigerians of the 1990’s, and, therefore, must be resisted by all. Another major reason for the change is the need to stop intrigues, domination and internal colonisation of the Nigerian state by the so-called chosen few.

This, in our view, has been and is still responsible for 90 percent of the problems of Nigerians. This indeed has been the major clog in our wheel of progress. This clique has an unabated penchant for domination and unrivalled fostering of mediocrity and outright detest for accountability, all put together have been our undoing as a nation. This will ever remain our threat if not checked immediately.

It is strongly believed that without the intrigues perpetrated by this clique and misrule, Nigeria will have in all ways achieved developmental virtues comparable to those in Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, India, and even Japan. Evidence, therefore, this cancerous dominance has as a factor constituted by a major and unpardonable clog in the wheel of progress of the Nigerian state. (Sic) It is suffice to mention a few distasteful intrigues engineered by this group of Nigerians in recent past.

These are:

(1) The shabby and dishonourable treatment meted on the longest serving Nigerian general in the person of General Domkat Bali, who in actual fact had given credibility to the Babangida administration.

(2) The wholesale hijacking of Babangida’s administration by the all powerful clique.

(3) The disgraceful and inexplicable removal of Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe, Professor Tam David-West, Mr. Aret Adams and so on from office.

(4) The now-pervasive and on-going retrenchment of Middle Belt and southerners from public offices and their instant replacement by the favoured class and their stooges.

(5) The deliberate disruption of the educational culture and retarding its place to suit the favoured class to the detriment of other educational minded parts of this country.

(6) The deliberate impoverishment of the peoples from the Middle Belt and the south, making them working ghosts and feeding on the formulae of 0-1-1- or 0-0-0 while the aristocratic class and their stooges are living in absolute affluence on a daily basis without working for it.

(7) Other countless examples of the exploitative, oppressive, dirty games of intrigues of its class, where people and stooges that can best be described by the fact that even though they contribute very little economically to the well being of Nigeria, they have over the years served and presided over the supposedly national wealth derived in the main from the Middle Belt and the southern part of this country, while the people from these parts of the country have been completely deprived from benefiting from the resources given to them by God.

(cool The third reason for the change is the need to lay a strong egalitarian foundation for the real democratic take off of the Nigerian state or states as they circumstances may dictate.

In the light of all the above and in recognition of the negativeness of the aforementioned aristocratic factor, the overall progress of the Nigerian state a temporary decision to excise the following states namely, Sokoto, Borno, Katsina, Kano and Bauchi states from the Federal Republic of Nigeria comes into effect immediately until the following conditions are met.

The conditions to be met to necessitate the re-absorption of the aforementioned states are as following:

(a) To install the rightful heir to the Sultanate, Alhaji Maccido, who is the people’s choice.

(b) To send a delegation led by the real and recognised Sultan Alhaji Maccido to the federal government to vouch that the feudalistic and aristocratic quest for domination and operation will be a thing of the past and will never be practised in any part of the Nigeria state.

By the same token, all citizens of the five states already mentioned are temporarily suspended from all public and private offices in Middle Belt and southern parts of this country until the mentioned conditions above are met.

They are also required to move back to their various states within one week from today. They will, however, be allowed to return and joint the Federal Republic of Nigeria when the stipulated conditions are met. In the same vein, all citizens of the Middle Belt and the south are required to come back to their various states pending when the so-called all-in-all Nigerians meet the conditions that will ensure a united Nigeria. A word is enough for the wise.

This exercise will not be complete without purging corrupt public officials and recovering their ill-gotten wealth, since the days of the oil boom till date. Even in these hard times, when Nigerians are dying from hunger, trekking many miles to work for lack of transportation, a few other Nigerians with complete impunity are living in unbelievable affluence both inside and outside the country.

We are extremely determined to recover all ill-gotten wealth back to the public treasury for the use of the masses of our people. You are all advised to remain calm as there is no cause for alarm.

We are fully in control of the situation as directed by God. All airports, seaports and borders are closed forthwith. The former Armed Forces Ruling Council is now disbanded and replaced with National Ruling Council to be chaired by the head of state with other members being a civilian vice-head of state, service chiefs, inspector general of police, one representative each from NLC, NUJ, NBA, and NANS.

A curfew is hereby imposed from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. until further notice. All members of the armed forces and the police forces are hereby confined to their respective barracks.

All unlawful and criminal acts by those attempting to cause chaos will be ruthlessly crushed. Be warned as we are prepared at all costs to defend the new order. All radio stations are hereby advised to hook on permanently to the national network programme until further notice.

Long live all true patriots of this great country of ours. May God and Allah through his bountiful mercies bless us all.
Bump.

I remember the day of this Orkar-led coup. The temporary excision of those 5 Northern states was NOT well thought out though and that is one of the reasons the coup failed.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by J3susFr3ak: 3:10pm On Jun 20, 2023
paramakina202:

Are you sure they've woken up?
Paul Unongo still speaks trash for the North.


Paul Unonogo died last year in Jos. I think he had a serious rethink about his earlier positions in his later years.

So...no. In his later years before his death he no longer spoke "thrash" for the North.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by J3susFr3ak: 3:20pm On Jun 20, 2023
ANTONINEUTRON:
But IBB Is 4rm Middle Belt (nupe)

The ambiguous term NC is different from "Middle Belt".

The Middle Belt movement emerged from mostly Christian educated minority ethnic groups who pressured the colonial Government for a completely separate region before Independence. These groups could be found mostly from Benue, Plateau, former Gongola, Southern Kaduna etc.,

Unfortunately, places like Kwara and Niger State had some earlier exposure to Sokoto's influence and never had sizeable ethnic groups willing to challenge the unfortunate Islamic systems they found themselves in. While there are a minority Nupe Christians (including those of other ethnic groups) who would readily identify with the Middle Belt, their overarching political and religious composition puts them at a slight disadvantage. The late Deborah Samuel was from Niger state for instance. Let assume she was Nupe. Why were people like IBB or even Abdul salaam mute about the girl's tragic fate? Now let us assume Deborah was a Muslim killed by Christians...do you still think the former Generals will still be mute?

It was wrong to lump together Middle Belt Christian states with the Muslim ones since the Muslims there do not represent the interests of the Christians there at all.

Nigeria's Restructuring needs to go beyond just the whole North South "regions" for a start. Why not have a Central Region where the Middle Belt can clearly be defined as what it is?

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Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by paramakina202: 3:55pm On Jun 20, 2023
J3susFr3ak:



Paul Unonogo died last year in Jos. I think he had a serious rethink about his earlier positions in his later years.

So...no. In his later years before his death he no longer spoke "thrash" for the North.

Maybe after he became sick and of no use to the fulani northern hegemony.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by hansomb: 8:41am On Jun 21, 2023
J3susFr3ak:


The ambiguous term NC is different from "Middle Belt".

The Middle Belt movement emerged from mostly Christian educated minority ethnic groups who pressured the colonial Government for a completely separate region before Independence. These groups could be found mostly from Benue, Plateau, former Gongola, Southern Kaduna etc.,

Unfortunately, places like Kwara and Niger State had some earlier exposure to Sokoto's influence and never had sizeable ethnic groups willing to challenge the unfortunate Islamic systems they found themselves in. While there are a minority Nupe Christians (including those of other ethnic groups) who would readily identify with the Middle Belt, their overarching political and religious composition puts them at a slight disadvantage. The late Deborah Samuel was from Niger state for instance. Let assume she was Nupe. Why were people like IBB or even Abdul salaam mute about the girl's tragic fate? Now let us assume Deborah was a Muslim killed by Christians...do you still think the former Generals will still be mute?

It was wrong to lump together Middle Belt Christian states with the Muslim ones since the Muslims there do not represent the interests of the Christians there at all.

Nigeria's Restructuring needs to go beyond just the whole North South "regions" for a start. Why not have a Central Region where the Middle Belt can clearly be defined as what it is?
Hmmm, Nigeria is extremely too complex and complicated. I think there's more advantages in staying together than division. Just look at the whole Sudan situation.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by hansomb: 8:43am On Jun 21, 2023
This speech sounded like it's truly written under the influence of alcohol. No social studies put into perspective.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Nahunger(m): 8:46am On Jun 21, 2023
Hearing the name for the first time, gather here let's learn new history today.
Re: The Late Tiv Warrior, Gideon Orkar's, Coup Speech, April 1990 by Mantahirdra(m): 9:51am On Jun 21, 2023
Feraz:
Hmmm....seems the same is still happening.

Anyway, now that the middle belt has woken up and most are tired of being grouped with the core north, let's see what becomes of it.

And erm...why didn't he succeed in his coup?

CC Malton.


A simple question , is Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida a middle beltan or a core Northerner ?

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