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Poll: What are the Niger Delta militants fighting for.

Themselves: 76% (13 votes)
Development: 23% (4 votes)
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Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by Mariory(m): 8:37pm On Feb 10, 2007
LePhilippe:

I disagree with this they are fighting for the welfare of their neglected people!!!! If they were fighting for themselves the hostages would be killed for ransoms!!!

Is that why they are able to build mansions and drive expensive cars?
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by LePhilippe(m): 9:00pm On Feb 10, 2007
Is that why they are able to build mansions and drive expensive cars?

Accusations, accusations!! These militants live under the same poor conditions as their people. Please prove me wrong by showing me evidence of mansions and expensive vehicles!!!
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by dblock(m): 3:46am On Feb 11, 2007
They may be fighting for the good of their land and their people, but they are going about it in a criminal fashion and they've achieved little or nothing. They are kidnapping innocent people who have families thet are worried about them. They claim that the FG is corrupt but yet they want Alams and Dokubo released, the Niger Delta needs people to stand up, but no these militants, this miliatnts are stupid and uneducated, they don't know what they want and they don't know how to get it. If they want developmet then they should assemble themselves in a proper fashion and negotiate at the board like normal human beings, if they want to get money for themseleves then they should expand on the lucrative hostage taking buisness. These miltants don't know what they want, they are confused at best.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by betantee(m): 4:38pm On Feb 11, 2007
Militants or no militants, criminals or no criminals.The basic issue is the apperant gross neglect and thivery of the resource from the Niger Delta by the so called Nigerian State.LOOK AT ABUJA N LOOK AT GBARAIN COMMUNITY IN BAYELSA.How many years did it take to develop Abuja?Let the freedom fighters fight for themselves and the Niger Delta.At least they are taking their share of the cake that is stolen by political thieves.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by dblock(m): 9:51am On Feb 12, 2007
Abuja was not developed at the expense of the Niger Delta. The neglect of the Niger Delta, I suspect, was an unforeseen one. It is true that the area was neglected and badly developed, but the Local FG which comprised of largely N.Delta Indigents are also to blame. A report claiming that the money which was pumped into the state for the last 8 years was enough to develop the state, but People like Alams would probably have sqaundered these chances. But even if I am wrong which I doubt, but the path that the militants are taking will not and cannot lead to any positive development, nothing but havoc and chaos will be achieved, they are destroying the Niger Delta even more by rebelling in this manner.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 10:01am On Feb 12, 2007
LePhilippe:

I disagree with this they are fighting for the welfare of their neglected people!!!! If they were fighting for themselves the hostages would be killed for ransoms!!!

@Lephilippe,
Why do u disagree with me?Because your own person has not been their victim.
The two Nigeria Shell staff they kidnapped have been declared missing.What has happened to them we dont know.They killed so many police men,Navial men and Nigerian army.Which other evidence do u need?
Last week they traced a phillipino man to Imo airport and killed the escort and kidnapped the man.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 10:05am On Feb 12, 2007
@dblock,
U are saying the truth.Let lephilpee understand but if he refused, he shall meet them.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by betantee(m): 10:32am On Feb 12, 2007
@dblock,
U made some points concerning Alams squandering the money for Bayelsa, but when did Alams become the Governnor of the State.?If Abuja was not developed at the expense of the Niger Delta, Whose expense and resource was it ?Who were the drivers of the development of Abuja?
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by LePhilippe(m): 11:00pm On Feb 12, 2007
Please, I am not ignoring these facts,

Do you know how many people die daily in the Niger Delta area. They have a life expectancy of only 38.7 years old. Please tell me how old are you!!!! Would you like to know you will die before 40?

Its high time some on spoke for these silenced people!!! Let them kidnap, so far nobody has been killed purposely but only as accidents because the Nigerian army intervened.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by McKren(m): 11:47pm On Feb 12, 2007
How old is Odili?, Edwin Clark how old is he?

You will bear the worst brunt of all that trash, Asari and Ateke are turning role models for kids growing up in that region and mark my word 80% percent of teens from that region will end up like that.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by Mamajama(m): 3:29am On Feb 13, 2007
Interesting quotes I found.



http://www.malcolm-x.org/quotes.htm
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by BigB11(m): 3:51am On Feb 13, 2007
Yes, they may be fighting for selves or for their people, the fact remains the same. This is not how to fight effectively. Things could be done differently and much more constructively.
It is not about just folks from DELTA area, it's about every citizen of Nigeria.

Every single member of this group must be prosecuted and brutally dealt with. It is not the way and not acceptable for any group to disrespect or disobey the constitution of our lovely nation.

The fight could be fought together as one and more effectively; but shutting down the oil factories and kidnapping expatriates is not just the way.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by dblock(m): 7:38am On Feb 13, 2007
If Abuja was not developed at the expense of the Niger Delta, Whose expense and resource was it ?Who were the drivers of the development of Abuja?

Nigeria has enough resources to buid a 100 Abuja's, that's what I mean. It is correct to say that the area was neglected, but it would be higly incorrect to say that Abuja was built at the expense of the Niger Delta. The money laundered by Abacha, Alams and all the other corrupt leaders would probably surpass the amount of money invested into Abuja.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by Rogo: 11:22am On Feb 13, 2007
my people, there fighting a just fight so pls let them be.
Nigeria leaders are stubborn people to handle with pen so let them use gun and other means to archieve their heritage.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by donnymikky(m): 11:49am On Feb 13, 2007
Nigeria has enough resources to buid a 100 Abuja's, that's what I mean. It is correct to say that the area was neglected, but it would be higly incorrect to say that Abuja was built at the expense of the Niger Delta. The money laundered by Abacha, Alams and all the other corrupt leaders would probably surpass the amount of money invested into Abuja.


True talk my brother
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 12:04pm On Feb 13, 2007
Abuja cannot be build at the expense of Niger Delta. Not possible.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by donnymikky(m): 12:07pm On Feb 13, 2007
Accusations, accusations!! These militants live under the same poor conditions as their people. Please prove me wrong by showing me evidence of mansions and expensive vehicles!!!

If you dont know them it's better you dont misinform people on this thread. The so called Dokubo, Ateke and co are living in great afluence. Do you know that Dokubo has five wives?? So with what is he feeding the retinue of aides that surround him. Please let's not mix facts with fictions. It is true that Niger Delta has being neglected for too long a time (I gradutaed from there) but that does not give these boys the tenerity to do all they are doing now. If they refuse to discontinue and go back to the discussion room and plan the way forward with the government, they will just remain in that position forever. Immagine the boys are even demanding for the release of[b] ALAMS[/b] and went ahead to say it's not negotiable. This is the same man that has improverished the people of Bayelsa yet they see him as a heroe of the Ijaw land. I have said it before and i will say it again that these boys should stop kidnaping foreigners but rather they should start abducting the NigerDelta Governors and their family members. Then they will know where their monies have being diverted to.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 12:41pm On Feb 13, 2007
donnymikky:

If you don't know them it's better you don't misinform people on this thread. The so called Dokubo, Ateke and co are living in great afluence. Do you know that Dokubo has five wives?? So with what is he feeding the retinue of aides that surround him. Please let's not mix facts with fictions. It is true that Niger Delta has being neglected for too long a time (I gradutaed from there) but that does not give these boys the tenerity to do all they are doing now. If they refuse to discontinue and go back to the discussion room and plan the way forward with the government, they will just remain in that position forever. Immagine the boys are even demanding for the release of[b] ALAMS[/b] and went ahead to say it's not negotiable. This is the same man that has improverished the people of Bayelsa yet they see him as a heroe of the Ijaw land. I have said it before and i will say it again that these boys should stop kidnaping foreigners but rather they should start abducting the NigerDelta Governors and their family members. Then they will know where their monies have being diverted to.


It is better to kidnap the ND Governors,House of Assembly and LG chairmen or those top politicians than kidnaping foreigners. Which will also yield a negetave outcome.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by donnymikky(m): 12:55pm On Feb 13, 2007
It is better to kidnap the ND Governors,House of Assembly and LG chairmen or those top politicians than kidnaping foreigners. Which will also yield a negetave outcome.

@Nikynike

what i am saying is that foreigners should not be made to suffer for the sins they knew nothing about. Afterall foreigners are not in position of power in NigerDelta but Nigerians. The NigerDelta Governnors MUST be made accountable to their people. Do you know that Peter Odilli now has a Airline? this is to tell you that even the Governors are the greatest enemies of their own people.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by daznitro(m): 1:31pm On Feb 13, 2007
who are the top guns in the oil companies, is the foriegners they have their own power but they are using us in the niger delta,they collaborate with this governors to harm us.If they say no i dont think they are going to kill them.think about it please every body.The oil executives can help us in the niger delta but they dont want and some people are doing what they feel is the best all man to his own opinion so no sweating about hostage taking.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by drlawng(m): 3:55pm On Feb 13, 2007
I think these "hoodlums" are fighting for no one but themselves. Ken Saro Wiwa never advocated violence. I cringe when i think about dispicable micreants like Dokubo Asari, Alams, Odili etc. I do not support the expoitation of the region and neither do i support the the insurgency. I know there are brilliant Niger-Deltans represented in the goverment that can effect changes from within through dialogue, negotiations and other peaceful means with the Nigerian state. Truth be told, no level of insurgency by these hoodlums can destroy the Nigerian state. I wonder why they were not this militant when murderers like Abacha was in charge? go figure.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by Mariory(m): 6:00pm On Feb 13, 2007
daznitro:

who are the top guns in the oil companies, is the foriegners they have their own power but they are using us in the niger delta,they collaborate with this governors to harm us.If they say no i don't think they are going to kill them.think about it please every body.The oil executives can help us in the niger delta but they don't want and some people are doing what they feel is the best all man to his own opinion so no sweating about hostage taking.

It is not the job of the oil companies. That is the job of your local and state governments. Only recently there was a report on LGAs in Rivers State. Did you know that the official budget for Rivers state last year surpasses that of some West African Countries? It is also alleged that Odili has embezzled some N100billion from 1999 to date.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by betantee(m): 9:49pm On Feb 13, 2007
my bros n sis them, e no go be bad idea if we start to kidnapp this big men wey chop Nigeria moni children wey dey here for obodooyibo.How una see am. e go jell oo.Dat go be AMEND organisation.(ALL MOVEMENT TO EMANCIPATE NIGERIAN DEVELOPMENT)
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by drlawng(m): 11:02pm On Feb 13, 2007
betantee:

my bros n sis them, e no go be bad idea if we start to kidnapp this big men wey chop Nigeria moni children wey dey here for obodooyibo.How una see am. e go jell oo.Dat go be AMEND organisation.(ALL MOVEMENT TO EMANCIPATE NIGERIAN DEVELOPMENT)


Now this is funny. lol
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 10:17am On Feb 14, 2007
donnymikky:

@Nikynike

what i am saying is that foreigners should not be made to suffer for the sins they knew nothing about. Afterall foreigners are not in position of power in NigerDelta but Nigerians. The NigerDelta Governnors MUST be made accountable to their people. Do you know that Peter Odilli now has a Airline? this is to tell you that even the Governors are the greatest enemies of their own people.

@donnymikky
Yes lm with you.l understand your view and thats supposed to be the right thing for them to do.Now Odili has an Airline.Thats what we are saying.They are diverting their cash to their pocket and these militants are suffering innocent ones.
drlawng:

I think these "hoodlums" are fighting for no one but themselves. Ken Saro Wiwa never advocated violence. I cringe when i think about dispicable micreants like Dokubo Asari, Alams, Odili etc. I do not support the expoitation of the region and neither do i support the the insurgency. I know there are brilliant Niger-Deltans represented in the goverment that can effect changes from within through dialogue, negotiations and other peaceful means with the Nigerian state. Truth be told, no level of insurgency by these hoodlums can destroy the Nigerian state. I wonder why they were not this militant when murderers like Abacha was in charge? go figure.

Thats the truth.No shaken as in during ABACHA's regime but democracy have created rooms for killings and destruction in the country.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by Nobody: 10:38am On Feb 14, 2007
In how many ways may we either cause or share the guilt of another’s sin?
We may either cause or share the guilt of another’s sin in nine ways:
By counsel;
By command;
By consent;
By provocation;
By praise or flattery;
By concealment;
By being a partner in the sin;
By silence;
By defending the ill done.

My Take:
Ok there is injustice. Solution? Seek a way acceptable to God.
The problem sometimes: The Oppressed Becomes Judge Turns Oppressor And Invites Judgement From God. (cf Matt 7:1)
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by donnymikky(m): 11:20am On Feb 14, 2007
In how many ways may we either cause or share the guilt of another’s sin?
We may either cause or share the guilt of another’s sin in nine ways:
By counsel;
By command;
By consent;
By provocation;
By praise or flattery;
By concealment;
By being a partner in the sin;
By silence;
By defending the ill done.

My Take:
Ok there is injustice. Solution? Seek a way acceptable to God.
The problem sometimes: The Oppressed Becomes Judge Turns Oppressor And Invites Judgement From God. (cf Matt 7:1)

You have spoken well but i think it will be of greater effect if it was posted in the R E L I G I O N forum.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by donnymikky(m): 11:21am On Feb 14, 2007
Yes lm with you.l understand your view and thats supposed to be the right thing for them to do.Now Odili has an Airline.Thats what we are saying.They are diverting their cash to their pocket and these militants are suffering innocent ones.

@nikynike
grin
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by nikynike(f): 3:10pm On Feb 14, 2007
Ya donnmikky l dey with u. Let hi post that reply to RELIGION. grin grin grin
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by lolabaloo(f): 9:14am On Feb 16, 2007
the so called youths angry sad angry angry sad from south south states needs to be educated.
there leaders grin grin ;Dare enjoying while the youths sad angry sad angry cry cry are being pushed around to fight for percentages that goes into their leaders grin grin grin pocket already.
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by betantee(m): 10:25am On Feb 16, 2007
Please can someone HELP ME find answers to my bugging mind.What is fundamentally wrong about the development of the Niger Delta?Why for forty years nothing Fundamentally happened in the region?Why most MEND be the ones to create the attention concerning the development of the region?
Re: Are Militants Fighting For Development Of Niger Delta Or Themselves? by dblock(m): 10:32am On Feb 16, 2007
Correction, MEND and the other terroist lipsrsealed , I mean freedom fighters, didn't give the region the attention, the attention has always being there ever since day one, the only differnce is no one cared

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