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North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by aloyemeka7: 10:19pm On Jan 17, 2010
Civil war looms — Lam Adesina

By Olusola Balogun
Sunday, January 17, 2010


•Adesina




Former Oyo State governor, Lam Adesina, has warned northern elements determined to frustrate Vice President Goodluck Jonathan from assuming office as Acting President that they could plunge the country into another civil war.

In an exclusive interview with Sunday Sun, he reasoned that the way some people are carrying on “the people of the Niger Delta would soon ask whether they are only good at producing oil but not competent to rule Nigeria.”

Adesina, a chieftain of the Action Congress (AC), lamented: “In other civilized countries, whenever the President or a governor is away, his deputy steps in automatically. I did it when I was in office. To make matters worse they are keeping us in the dark over the man’s health issue.

[size=16pt]“In place of the president, they said the Vice President couldn’t act. Is there no law in Nigeria? Is there no constitution in place? How can some people hold us to ransom in this country? Let them not forget the past; we don’t want to go into another civil war. That is where they are pushing us to if the people of Niger Delta decide to react.[/size]

He blamed the leadership of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) for the raging controversy that has trailed President Umaru Yar’Adua’s absence from the country 55 days after he travelled to Saudi Arabia for medical treatment.
Said Adesina: “The PDP wants to push Nigeria into another civil war. Let them tell us the full details of what is happening to him. The PDP must be careful. In a banana republic, such things will not even happen. The people will rise and ask that a new person be sworn in.

“That is why I say that the PDP must be very careful. They are pushing us too hard and they will soon push the people to the wall.
“In the absence of Yar’Adua, Jonathan should be allowed. I was in office before and when I went on leave I delegated power to my deputy. It is in the Constitution. So why are we toying with the Constitution?”
Adesina, who expressed regrets over the constitutional crisis, alleged that a cabal in the North was against Jonathan’s presidency because they are afraid to lose power.

“They (cabal) don’t want Jonathan because they felt that the VP might not want to leave office after tasting power as President. But if that is the reason, leaders of the North should let us know instead of this needless constitutional crisis.”
Adesina, who expressed displeasure at the inability of the President to transmit power to his deputy, further said: “I am very surprised he did not handover before he travelled. He is a gentleman and I know him as a complete socialist. He does not believe in power just for power sake. But I am surprised with this one.

“However, I am also not surprised because the PDP is a poisoned chalice. If a good person comes in contact with it, they get into trouble. If I as a progressive now go into PDP, I will turn into another thing. That is their stock in trade; they will turn you to a bad person,” he said.
Adesina also blamed former President Olusegun Obasanjo for the constitutional crisis.
“Do you want to tell me that PDP and Obasanjo did not know that the man is sickly? Are you saying they don’t know? They deliberately plunged us into this crisis.

“As a party, why do you allow such a person to be picked? A strong man like Obasanjo did not succeed, and so what will happen to someone that is ailing? Anyone that is not healthy in Nigeria can’t even lead a state.
“The Yar’Adua I knew is a man that has good intentions. He wants to succeed but his health is a handicap. We can’t have good governance under Yar’Adua.”

As far as the AC leader is concerned, the former president programmed the crisis.
“Obasanjo wanted a deadlock, which he thought will happen before the (2007) election, but God said no to shame him. But today we are back to the same thing that Obasanjo wanted. This is the reason the North didn’t want Jonathan to be there because they felt that this was what Obasanjo programmed. Obasanjo all the while wanted a South-South President to succeed him, but when the Northerners closed in on him, he suddenly changed gear and settled for a sickly Yar’Adua.”

The former Oyo governor also linked the recent listing of Nigeria as a terrorist country by the U.S. to the 2007 elections.
“A keen observer of international affairs won’t be surprised. By listing Nigeria on the terror list, the USA is using one stone to kill two birds. The offence of Mutallab’s son is not enough to put us on the terror list. They know that putting Nigeria on the terror list I like blacklisting Nigeria, which is Africa’s leader.

“On the other hand, the US is not happy with events in Nigeria, especially with regards to election rigging. So they decided to retaliate. They decided to punish us for the warped election of 2007, which we are not working to correct. They know that Nigeria is not a terrorist country, but they want to punish us for the faulty election. America just wants to punish us for other things,” Adesina noted.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2010/jan/17/newsbreak-17-01-2010-001.htm
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by aloyemeka7: 10:26pm On Jan 17, 2010
“In place of the president, they said the Vice President couldn’t act. Is there no law in Nigeria? Is there no constitution in place? How can some people hold us to ransom in this country? Let them not forget the past; we don’t want to go into another civil war. That is where they are pushing us to if the people of Niger Delta decide to react.

Is he suggesting that Niger Delta should first react because Jonathan is Niger Deltan or what?. Is Niger Delta the only section of the country in deep shi/t?   embarassed embarassed
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by SapeleGuy: 10:45pm On Jan 17, 2010
The same line also caught my attention. Lol - Fear of the Niger Delta is the beginning of wisdom.

It reminded me of a similar line by Awolowo

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by naijaking1: 11:49pm On Jan 17, 2010
SapeleGuy:

The same line also caught my attention. Lol - Fear of the Niger Delta is the beginning of wisdom.

It reminded me of a similar line by Awolowo

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "

Good students of history wink
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by nduchucks: 11:56pm On Jan 17, 2010
any semblance of de breakup of naija, or talk of seccession dey sweet some people too much for here. for some of these people wey i no go name now, if dem hear the word "seccession", na woman voice wey dey talk say "come take 2 rounds for free" wey dem dey hear. dan iska kawai.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by aloyemeka7: 12:12am On Jan 18, 2010
I wan secede and no joke about it although  I want Nigeria to divide into muslim North and christian South like Korea. Christians from the north are invited to join the south while muslims from the south are also invited to join the North. But, it's only the minority Northern christians that will suffer because no southerner is ready to attack any muslim from the south because of his or her religion. Enough of these bloodbaths.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Fhemmmy: 12:39am On Jan 18, 2010
I am so amazed that people ar emaking noise about Jonathan being able to act or not, where were all these people when the stupid people were agreeing to some kinda power sharing deals, that North rule for 8 years, Yoruba for 8 years and East for 8 years, by calculations, Yaradua - North is yet to even rule for 4 years, so i am sure we all know they will do all possible to make sure no other tribe see power, till they are done with their 8 years . . . . is that normal for a nation with talents and money, not at all, and i think this will make people to think in the future, before agreeing to some nonsense.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Nobody: 12:58am On Jan 18, 2010
Though Nigeria seem too small geographically to divide but it seems inevitable. Nigeria is already no more. Northerners have seriously frustrated the nation. The only thing that will happen is that North South thing. But I doubt it will be peaceful though. We must leave seriously!! Did you hear what the Ayatollah was saying during the jos riot? They still want Islamic domination. People are taking this matter not so seriously.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Fhemmmy: 1:00am On Jan 18, 2010
Time will tell.
I am sure the time will come when we will all see what is happening and act accordingly
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by WilyWily7: 1:19am On Jan 18, 2010
SapeleGuy:

The same line also caught my attention. Lol - Fear of the Niger Delta is the beginning of wisdom.

It reminded me of a similar line by Awolowo

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "
That's why it's good to carefully study the words of a Yoruba man before taken action,
Lies and Deceptives runs out of their mouth whenever they opens it.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Katsumoto: 1:33am On Jan 18, 2010
SapeleGuy:

The same line also caught my attention. Lol - Fear of the Niger Delta is the beginning of wisdom.

It reminded me of a similar line by Awolowo

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "



I know you are an intelligent guy; since you brought out this quote, can you explain it to those who see it as an act of betrayal?

The likes of wilywily, metalgong and sunnybobo would have developed erections on seeing that quote.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by eyesonyou: 1:48am On Jan 18, 2010
SapeleGuy:

The same line also caught my attention. Lol - Fear of the Niger Delta is the beginning of wisdom.

It reminded me of a similar line by Awolowo

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "



What is your point?

If you are alluding that Awolowo statement equates an accord between Ojukwu and Awo, then you have ignored the facts of events.

Do you realize that Awo made that statement on  May 1, 67?  And Ojukwu declared secession on the 30th of May.
Or are you implying by any means that Ojukwu considers that statement an accord with Awo?  And 29 days later he declared secession because of Awo's statement?
Please ascribe some intelligence to Okujwu.

Do you know that the Aburi accord was in Jan 67? And that Ojukwu had already made up his mind even before the accord,  five full months before Awo
addressed the Western parliament and made that speech. Did you read the entire speech? I guess not.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Onlytruth(m): 3:59am On Jan 18, 2010
eyesonyou:

What is your point?

If you are alluding that Awolowo statement equates an accord between Ojukwu and Awo, then you have ignored the facts of events.

Do you realize that Awo made that statement on  May 1, 67?  And Ojukwu declared secession on the 30th of May.
Or are you implying by any means that Ojukwu considers that statement an accord with Awo?  And 29 days later he declared secession because of Awo's statement?
Please ascribe some intelligence to Okujwu.

Do you know that the Aburi accord was in Jan 67? And that Ojukwu had already made up his mind even before the accord,  five full months before Awo
addressed the Western parliament and made that speech.
Did you read the entire speech? I guess not.


You are not making sense at all. So, Aburi Accord concluded in JANUARY 1967 and the East seceded on May 30th 1967. Don't you notice that both Aburi and Awo's statement happened 5 months, and 29 days respectively, before eastern secession? At least Biafra did not secede BEFORE Awo's speech or Aburi.
You sounded like Biafra seceded before both events.

So, how much time do you need to secede? If I have my way, I would secede even today. Nigeria wastes time and opportunities daily. The world is not waiting for us. In fact they have been fed up with us.
There is what President Obama and Dr Martin Luther King Jr call "the fierce urgency of now".
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Onlytruth(m): 3:59am On Jan 18, 2010
^^^
So, Biafra didn't need forever to secede. You secede when your conscience tells you. Ideally of course you hope for the best, but I don't think there is an ideal time to secede. It is an act of faith because no amount of weapons or security plans can save a young nation. When Israel was founded in 1948, arabs attacked almost immediately. Somehow Israel survived the attack and have been fighting those who oppose its right to exist even till today. So every nation's story is different. That Nigeria became independent without war doesn't mean that every other nation must walk that path. The greatest ones got their freedom by war.

Biafra fought and lost. That is life. We weren't wrong. 40 years has proven that.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by metalgong5(m): 4:42am On Jan 18, 2010
@poster
The civil war looms only in the living room of Yoruba cowards. . . . .

One Nigeria to you all . . . . umu anuofia!! grin
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by revolt(m): 7:10am On Jan 18, 2010
Guess the oto is not hoping that igbos would fight dat war wit him afterall i guess he was a major supporter of the genocide of the east. Who finally has the last laugh now. It's now they're seeing what our older generation saw. How wise. Lets go on with one nigeria.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Katsumoto: 1:34pm On Jan 18, 2010
revolt:

Guess the oto is not hoping that igbos would fight dat war wit him afterall i guess he was a major supporter of the genocide of the east. Who finally has the last laugh now. It's now they're seeing what our older generation saw. How wise. Lets go on with one nigeria.

People like you will cut your nose to spite your face.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by activities: 1:59pm On Jan 18, 2010
Good morning Yorubamen,
You are now seeing what a young man of 33 years saw 40 years ago.
once again Good morning sir,
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by SapeleGuy: 2:59pm On Jan 18, 2010
'e be like say some pipol dey vex.'  Cool temper.

Mine was merely an innocent observation that Lam Adesina was adopting a reactive position or should I say 'sidon look'.

On a serious note, if a particular action is desirable then you should have the strength and conviction to go for it, as pioneered by a 28 year old Boro, Ojukwu  and latterly Asari Dokubo and Okah.

Katsumoto - The operative word is 'allowed'. If the east did not meet any resistance then according to Awo, the West would have followed. That is what oyinbo call 'caveat emptor'.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by eyesonyou: 4:31pm On Jan 18, 2010
Onlytruth:

You are not making sense at all. So, Aburi Accord concluded in JANUARY 1967 and the East seceded on May 30th 1967. Don't you notice that both Aburi and Awo's statement happened 5 months, and 29 days respectively, before eastern secession? At least Biafra did not secede BEFORE Awo's speech or Aburi.
You sounded like Biafra seceded before both events.

So, how much time do you need to secede? If I have my way, I would secede even today. Nigeria wastes time and opportunities daily. The world is not waiting for us. In fact they have been fed up with us.
There is what President Obama and Dr Martin Luther King Jr call "the fierce urgency of now".




I would engage you if it would be conducive, but I know it is futile.
Everyone is an historian on NL; objectivity seems to be out window,  emotions now prevail.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by chosen04(f): 5:39pm On Jan 18, 2010
activities:

Good morning Yorubamen,
You are now seeing what a young man of 33 years saw 40 years ago.
once again Good morning sir,

CLASSIC!
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by ChinenyeN(m): 7:59pm On Jan 18, 2010
If I'm not mistaking, Nigeria is not too geographically small to divide.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by kegikwanu(m): 8:04pm On Jan 18, 2010
Nigeria is too addicted to divide, think about that,
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by sjeezy8: 8:12pm On Jan 18, 2010
activities:

Good morning Yorubamen,
You are now seeing what a young man of 33 years saw 40 years ago.
once again Good morning sir,

chosen04:

CLASSIC!

Thank you im yoruba and still dont give a fu.c.k and still dont support any civil war or dividing.

Next . . . . Im not suffering

revolt:

Guess the oto is not hoping that igbos would fight dat war wit him afterall i guess he was a major supporter of the genocide of the east. Who finally has the last laugh now. It's now they're seeing what our older generation saw. How wise. Lets go on with one nigeria.

I dont know who has the last laugh? I guess the rich people because poor from the west, east, north and south -will be the ones to suffer. One Nigeria is fine with me. . . . I dont care

metal-gong:

@poster
The civil war looms only in the living room of Yoruba cowards. . . . .

One Nigeria to you all . . . . umu anuofia!! grin

ODE
now we're on the same page one Nigeria AMEN, because its too much money to be lost if theres civil war

@post Lam adesina needs to shut his mouth because me and my paddies have no problems with Nigeria now, infact as soon as everyone graduates were going back home IMMEDIATELY. The only thing is lack of 24 hour electrity and not having mediocre leadership.

ONE NIGERIA AMEN
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by mamagee3(f): 8:24pm On Jan 18, 2010
What is it with this war between North, South and east? angry
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by TippyTop(m): 8:29pm On Jan 18, 2010

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "


People stopped taken Yoruba people seriously on matters of secession since that statement was made.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by chosen04(f): 8:29pm On Jan 18, 2010
sjeezy8:

Thank you im yoruba and still dont give a fu.c.k and still dont support any civil war or dividing.

Next . . . . Im not suffering

Am not sure you know the meaning of the bolded! You are not suffering cos you are in a country developed by another man and you feel comfortable. Why not come back to Nigeria since you love the continued injustics and seasonless killings.

Even, if you are not suffering as you put it.

One of your many relations must be suffering in nigeria.

Sjeezy8, Its pays to wake up on time. Stop sleeping and dreaming about one Nigeria, it will never be.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Katsumoto: 8:32pm On Jan 18, 2010
Tippy Top:


People stopped taken Yoruba people seriously on matters of secession since that statement was made.

First let us have your analysis of that statement; lets see if you have a basic understanding of what was said by Awo.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by TippyTop(m): 8:34pm On Jan 18, 2010
"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "

And when the Eastern region seceded what did Omo chicken (Awo) do?
Hahahaha
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Katsumoto: 8:36pm On Jan 18, 2010
sjeezy8:

Thank you im yoruba and still dont give a fu.c.k and still dont support any civil war or dividing.

Next . . . . Im not suffering

I dont know who has the last laugh? I guess the rich people because poor from the west, east, north and south -will be the ones to suffer. One Nigeria is fine with me. . . . I dont care

ODE
now we're on the same page one Nigeria AMEN, because its too much money to be lost if theres civil war

@post Lam adesina needs to shut his mouth because me and my paddies have no problems with Nigeria now, infact as soon as everyone graduates were going back home IMMEDIATELY. The only thing is lack of 24 hour electrity and not having mediocre leadership.

ONE NIGERIA AMEN

You need to stop analysing the complex issues bedeviling our nation from a very narrow and dare I say it, selfish view.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Katsumoto: 8:42pm On Jan 18, 2010
Tippy Top:

"If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation, "

And when the Eastern region seceded what did Omo chicken (Awo) do?
Hahahaha


Just like I thought, a generation given information without the ability to analyse issues themselves.
Awo said IF the eastern region is allowed ,    Is that not a conditional statement? A statement of declaration was made but Gowon did not allow the East to Leave Nigeria.

In a nutshell let me break it down for you. If Biafra succeeded in becoming a nation, then Awo would equally have set in motion actions designed to take the West out of Nigeria. Since Biafra did not succeed, we will never know what Awo would have done. This is a lesson in simple English grammer.
Re: North Is Provoking Nigerians: Civil War Looms — Lam Adesina by Onlytruth(m): 9:19pm On Jan 18, 2010
Katsumoto:

Just like I thought, a generation given information without the ability to analyse issues themselves.
Awo said IF the eastern region is allowed ,    Is that not a conditional statement? A statement of declaration was made but Gowon did not allow the East to Leave Nigeria.

In a nutshell let me break it down for you. If Biafra succeeded in becoming a nation, then Awo would equally have set in motion actions designed to take the West out of Nigeria. Since Biafra did not succeed, we will never know what Awo would have done. This is a lesson in simple English grammer.


@Katsumoto

I know you mean well. That is why I will take your statement in good faith.

About Awo's statement, you could have been right if Awo ensured that the Yoruba stayed out of the war efforts, including himself. I am taking this issue from a minimalist perspective. Awo knew that the East was not happy with Nigeria and was aware of the Aburi accord. He knew, some say he was privy, to the abandonment of the Aburi accord.

So, it was immoral of him to make the statement and then follow through with actions denying the East the ability to secede. If he expressly said that the west would never leave Nigeria, or that the West would join any efforts to keep Nigeria one, then his accusers would have been wrong. He spoke of the "rightness" of Eastern agitations and the immorality of waging war against the East for wanting to leave the federation.

I can post his speech and the exact quotes if you doubt me.
Let us be careful to enable us quench this useless southern disunity.
Here I stand.

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