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State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 9:05am On Jun 03, 2017
IGR should be our new federal character. How much is your state contributing?

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by DAVEZONIGLTD: 9:06am On Jun 03, 2017
Word.

Hmmnnn.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by Maduawuchukwu(m): 9:09am On Jun 03, 2017
Rubbish statement. Why didn't you say GDP should be the basis? What has a state's IGR got to do with Nigeria? Do they contribute a part of it to the Nigerian government?

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by uglyafonja: 9:13am On Jun 03, 2017
Is IGR now equivalent to contributing to the amount federal govt contributes to federal govt.

From your poor reasoning......that means Ogun contributes more to federal govt than bayelsa, akawaibom,IMO,cross river ,delta......

or Lagos contributes more than rivers and akawaibom....

IGR is just a thing of the government in power....

A govt may collect more, but when another steps in, the IGR decreases...an example is ebony state and ondo state..

Ebony from 11billion to 2.3 billion

Ondo state from 11 billion to 8 billion...

Any govt can increase their tax and make any amount they want..

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by vayne(m): 9:19am On Jun 03, 2017
lagos is where it is today,because of it former federal advantage and nigerian's collective efforts!

Let available resources in a state be the yardstick for federal character,not IGR that has been generated from undue advantage.

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by SuperS1Panther: 9:32am On Jun 03, 2017
If that is implemented Anambra will have zero representation, because their IGR for 2016 was Zero as in NIL.

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by demolinka(m): 9:32am On Jun 03, 2017
Nah, won't be fair to some of the North-Eastern states whose viable economic areas have been ravaged by non-conventional war and daily destruction. Federal character could never really work in a Nigerian state.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 7:27pm On Jun 03, 2017
vayne:
lagos is where it is today,because of it former federal advantage and nigerian's collective efforts!

Let available resources in a state be the yardstick for federal character,not IGR that has been generated from undue advantage.

Using IGR will change mindset and facilitate active productivity for self preservation in face of measurable level of competition and outcomes. Mindsets will shift.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 7:29pm On Jun 03, 2017
SuperS1Panther:
If that is implemented Anambra will have zero representation, because their IGR for 2016 was Zero as in NIL.

That will force them to have a rethink about population drain and bring back home their sons and daughters scattered all over and developing other regions.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by nku5: 8:55pm On Jun 03, 2017
Its after enjoying FG presence in Lagos and gaining from oil money infrastructure like Third Mainland Bridge and the Ports you now want to make noise about IGR.

No be only IGR grin grin grin

See small pikin sense
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by slimfit1(m): 11:54pm On Jun 03, 2017
demolinka:
Nah, won't be fair to some of the North-Eastern states whose viable economic areas have been ravaged by non-conventional war and daily destruction. Federal character could never really work in a Nigerian state.

Lagos is what it is today because some people made little effort to make things work for Lagos please get it right .
The capital was moved years ago, the military government did nothing to Lagos apart from the bridges they built then since they didn't add anything to Lagos.

Tinubu as hard as it is to admit it contributed to the development of Lagos wisely enriched himself at the process.

Look at Abuja it looks beautiful before now it looks like Lagos of 1990s. It doesn't look like a capital anymore.

Sorry wrong person.

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by slimfit1(m): 12:02am On Jun 04, 2017
nku5:
Its after enjoying FG presence in Lagos and gaining from oil money infrastructure like Third Mainland Bridge and the Ports you now want to make noise about IGR.

No be only IGR grin grin grin

See small pikin sense

Oil has nothing to do with Lagos get it
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by SalamRushdie: 12:07am On Jun 04, 2017
I am not a fan of IGR, IGR as it is now is nothing but omonile like extortion. Till state govts are allowed to earn from external sources I will not consider the current format of extortionist IGR as laudable
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MetaPhysical: 1:57am On Jun 04, 2017
MayorofLagos:
IGR should be our new federal character. How much is your state contributing?

Mayor,
This is a good idea but I believe you need to expand and explain in more than just one sentence.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by Desyner: 2:05am On Jun 04, 2017
Also state IGR should determine loan limits and pay [75%] of state leaders.
cc: MayorofLagos
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by Desyner: 2:07am On Jun 04, 2017
DAVEZONIGLTD:
Word.

Hmmnnn.
stop being the first to comment FTC and start being the first to make sense FTMS.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by Desyner: 2:35am On Jun 04, 2017
nku5:
Its after enjoying FG presence in Lagos and gaining from oil money infrastructure like Third Mainland Bridge and the Ports you now want to make noise about IGR.

No be only IGR grin grin grin

See small pikin sense
To me the idea is absolutely cool. In addition IGR should be tied to loan limits and state leaders' pay. With the current system it isn't a matter of who is ahead but who is happy to parasitic.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by Desyner: 2:39am On Jun 04, 2017
SalamRushdie:
I am not a fan of IGR, IGR as it is now is nothing but omonile like extortion. Till state govts are allowed to earn from external sources I will not consider the current format of extortionist IGR as laudable
It goes beyond omo-onile mentality. We read how Sokoto built mosque recently. If their IGR feature prominently in the revenue sources they won't be building mosques with scarce fund.

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 4:42am On Jun 04, 2017
SalamRushdie:
I am not a fan of IGR, IGR as it is now is nothing but omonile like extortion. Till state govts are allowed to earn from external sources I will not consider the current format of extortionist IGR as laudable

Your perspective on public administration and the use of policy to grow society is very narrow, if an IGR means extortion to you.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 4:45am On Jun 04, 2017
Desyner:
Also state IGR should determine loan limits and pay [75%] of state leaders.
cc: MayorofLagos

If properly structured and operated the different aspects of it will not be too difficult to manage. We need to start running government in tandem with successes in the private sector.
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 4:48am On Jun 04, 2017
Desyner:
It goes beyond omo-onile mentality. We read how Sokoto built mosque recently. If their IGR feature prominently in the revenue sources they won't be building mosques with scarce fund.

Excellent point! Mosques are already subsidized from government coffers, why sink money into a infrastructure that serves no utility for production?
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by MayorofLagos(m): 5:35am On Jun 04, 2017
MetaPhysical:


Mayor,
This is a good idea but I believe you need to expand and explain in more than just one sentence.


Metaphysical,
There is a set of articles authored by Chief Obafemi Awolowo, may his soul rest in peace! If any Nigerian earned being called prophet and worshipped, Awo is that person. These articles are collected under the label of Awo's Doctrines. Ill be honest, Awo's thoughts in these articles can be compared to the American Marshall Plan from which was taken the phrase "American Dream". Awo had a dream for Yorubaland, and by extension for the regions at large. Part of Awo's doctrines is what Alhaji Lateef Jakande implemented in Lagos State in early 80s, and expanded into contemporary versions that sustained Tinubu, Fashola and now Ambode. The break in democracy after return of military shunted the growth and trajectory put in place by Jakande, but the template was never destroyed.

To make it simple, fundamentally, individuals do not need to be rich, they just need to be gainfully employed in a rewarding production chain and they will enjoy a wholesome sense of being and a desirable lifestyle. So the task for administrators in public sector is to explore areas of human endeavours that they can channel for purposeful engagement both in the public and private sectors to equate worth and value for public good. In other words, in any existing opportunity where humans can make useful returns are there impending barriers that will discourage that enterprise? If the answer is yes, then the government has identified a task and must engage to remove that barrier so revenue streams can be tapped for good of society. Very noble idea!

How many states in Nigeria today are removing barriers and encouraging enterprise for public good? The report on IGR is a hint on who these states are.

Some states are so excellent at doing this that they are natural magnets for enterprising minds. Yet other states are so reckless and care less about society and unconcerned about the risks and dangers in consequence of their citizens abandoning their roots (uprooting) and support base to go live as strangers in a totally unsupportive and hostile culture where their "fundamental" needs for productive and rewarding employment can be realized.

Federal character is a statutory call and limited only to the public sector....civil service, federal ministers and so on in the center.

Why do we allow politicians in states that have a perennial poor performance in the protection of their citizens at local level to serve the nation at federal level?

Those states with impressive IGR have demonstrated capability to promote what is good for society in their locality.....these are the people we need at federal level to drive policies for youth, women, children, healthcare, education, culture, interior, budget, trade and industry and so on.....

We need to change mindset and make service at federal a performance-based selection at local level. So far, IGR seems the only reliable data available to assess each state. Since federal character is a state based criteria, the number of vacancies in cabinets should be a ratio of the total contribution at input to the central government.

There is plenty to say but I think this isbsufficient.

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Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by nku5: 6:19am On Jun 04, 2017
slimfit1:


Oil has nothing to do with Lagos get it

The IGR revolution in Lagos is barely more than 10 or 12 years old. Before then the key infrastructure that makes Lagos tick like Third Mainland bridge etc were built with Oil money by the FG.

The legacy of oil money is there for all to see
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by SalamRushdie: 6:29am On Jun 04, 2017
MayorofLagos:


Your perspective on public administration and the use of policy to grow society is very narrow, if an IGR means extortion to you.

Sorry I didn't quite capture the message I meant to pass with that post
Re: State IGR Should Be new Yardstick For Federal Character. by nku5: 6:33am On Jun 04, 2017
Desyner:
To me the idea is absolutely cool. In addition IGR should be tied to loan limits and state leaders' pay. With the current system it isn't a matter of who is ahead but who is happy to parasitic.

IGR is a characteristic of a viable state no doubt. Lagos is viable enough to be a country because of inherited infrastructure...

Its like singling out one child from 36 kids, pumping him with steroids and extra food and when he gets really big and strong you declare that he's special and should get more perks than the other kids because he's strongest. What everybody should be looking for now is fiscal federalism, Federal quota and all that is dead weight.

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