Atheism is the disbelief in the God entity or gods entities, with reason as a guiding lamp. Yet this untenable position held by agnostics that the existence of God is impossible to ascertain, despite the assertions of the religions of this world.
my question is since agnostics reject all the definitions of God given by religions, what tool do they use to reach such a conclusion, despite the acknowledgment that the God is a radically unique entity. Reason defies the existence of God, and is defined by experience. is it faith or reason?

I hardly have the words to address you.

What is the meaning of what you have written? ? ?

You say atheism has reason as a guiding lamp. That's hoggswollop. What rationality is there in stating that -

1. The world as we see it needed no preceding cause and/ or -

2. That cause could not conceivably be intelligent ? ? ? ? ?

You are very !/xqz"??11*%$£! when you assert that reason defies teh existence of God. Do you know what reason is? Ehn? Ehn? ? ?

Agnosticism is simply a position that declares - "we do not know and it is beyond us to ever know" - now that is a vastly more honest and reasonable response than the atheistic view.

@op I doubt u can reason your way to showing that there is no God. I'd u can please show us.

My "agnosticism" is based on the fact that I can neither reason my way to show that God exists, nor reason my way to show that he does not exist. Plus I don't believe something that is supposed to be of such huge consequence should be such a mystery.

How is it a mystery Krayola?

Glancing at the palm of your hand alone shows how fearfully and wonderfully made you are.

The brain, that pinnacle of matter which the materialists praise so much - surely its faculties are evidence that man was made to contemplate higher things?

IT IS STARING US IN THE FACE EVERYWHERE AND EVERYDAY - THE WONDER AND GLORY OF GOD.

D basis is that seeing is believing. Show me god and i wil tell u wat u are. Sit down and analyse like 3 diff religions u wil see that most of its stories is illogical and baseless eg (1)adam nd eve- hw cum white,black,asian exist if we had same ancestor, ur black mum did nt give birth 2 u as a white.(2) where did dinosaurs bones come 4rm its nt in any myth or religion. (3) tower of babel, jesus ascention suggest heaven is in d sky bt astronauts proved otherwise.(4) hw cum other planets are nt in creation stories etc. My dear poster u will hv 2 agree with d agnos

D basis is that seeing is believing. Show me god and i wil tell u wat u are.

Do you expect to see spiritual things with your physical eyes?

Deep Sight:

How is it a mystery Krayola?

Glancing at the palm of your hand alone shows how fearfully and wonderfully made you are.

The brain, that pinnacle of matter which the materialists praise so much - surely its faculties are evidence that man was made to contemplate higher things?

IT IS STARING US IN THE FACE EVERYWHERE AND EVERYDAY - THE WONDER AND GLORY OF GOD.

if I were born without palms, or with some kinda brain disorder, then what?

your forgeting thiest and diest. neither accept organized religion (agnostics say god is beyond human understanding)

@ deep sight, it better you start your church and preach your imaginary god there. religion provides the definition of God, yet its rejected by agnostics on what basis? religion has always preached that reason and God are incompatible, that God is far different from man.

Deep Sight:

I hardly have the words to address you.

What is the meaning of what you have written? ? ?

You say atheism has reason as a guiding lamp. That's hoggswollop. What rationality is there in stating that -

1. The world as we see it needed no preceding cause and/ or -

2. That cause could not conceivably be intelligent ? ? ? ? ?

You are very !/xqz"??11*%$£! when you assert that reason defies teh existence of God. Do you know what reason is? Ehn? Ehn? ? ?

Agnosticism is simply a position that declares - "we do not know and it is beyond us to ever know" - now that is a vastly more honest and reasonable response than the atheistic view.

all the nonsense you made is pure cheap speculation.

Glancing at the palm of your hand alone shows how fearfully and wonderfully made you are.

deepsight strikes again. amputees ko?

what do you mean by fearfully, you mean God was angry when making us?

Oga deepsight, you are talking more and more like a christian o. Whats up with you?

deep sight is terribly confused!

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Another useless thread - If you an athesit - then stick to your shit - if you believe in the existence of God then good for u . but why try to force each other opinion yourselves - absolute waste of time and energy

You should all get a life

then why are you on this forum?

blacksta:

Another useless thread - If you an athesit - then stick to your poo - if you believe in the existence of God then good for u . but why try to force each other opinion yourselves - absolute waste of time and energy

You should all get a life

On a mission to rid NL off useless thread like this one

its funny that the conclusion, God cannot be found or know to exist is drawn, when its being accepted beforehand he exists. besides its a subtle admission of his non-existence.

DeepSight: I hardly have the words to address you.

What is the meaning of what you have written? ? ?

You say atheism has reason as a guiding lamp. That's hoggswollop. What rationality is there in stating that -

1. The world as we see it needed no preceding cause and/ or -

2. That cause could not conceivably be intelligent ? ? ? ? ?

You are very !/xqz"??11*%$£! when you assert that reason defies teh existence of God. Do you know what reason is? Ehn? Ehn? ? ?

Agnosticism is simply a position that declares - "we do not know and it is beyond us to ever know" - now that is a vastly more honest and reasonable response than the atheistic view.

How do you address the issue of Being, because the problem encompasses God too.

ednut1: D basis is that seeing is believing. Show me god and i wil tell u wat u are.

You are wrong/ deceptive. Have you seen Isaac Newton yet you believe he existed. Have you seen wind or electricity , but you believe both exist. Have you seen an atom or energy? But you believe they both exist. Humans can not see or perceive everything in Nature, that is a FACT .

ednut1:
Sit down and analyse like 3 diff religions u wil see that most of its stories is illogical and baseless eg (1)adam nd eve- hw cum white,black,asian exist if we had same ancestor, ur black mum did nt give birth 2 u as a white.

Underneath the Skin, we are all the same is a FACT.
Variation in the Melanin level in our Skin is responsible for different skin colours is a FACT. Variation occurs in every species of living organisms-Humans are not exempted is a FACT. Recessive and Dominant traits are passed on from Parent to Child, this traits include skin colours, Children sometimes have different skin colours from Parents - ALBINO is proof of that. In the bible, Esau was so named because he had a different skin (Red), same with Niger (Black).

ednut1:
(2) where did dinosaurs bones come 4rm its nt in any myth or religion.

Animals and Plant species do become extinct from time to time. The fact that the mammoths and Saber tooth tigers were extinct during the ice age doesn't mean they were not created/ existed in the past. In the bible,
Many animals perished in the Flood of Noah's day. Not all animals were inside the Ark. The massive flood caused sudden drop in temperature, probably conditions similiar to the ice age. Do you know that if all the ice melts in the world, the entire land will be swallowed up?

ednut1:
(3) tower of babel, jesus ascention suggest heaven is in d sky bt astronauts proved otherwise.

Wrong you are! The bible use the word heaven to describe 3 different places/location. (1) The cloud/Sky- Earth's atmosphere (2) Space with cluster of Stars including our solar system. (3) The spirit dwelling place of God- described in revelations/ dreams. Astronaut are just studying one of those Heavens- Space not the invisible Heaven.

ednut1:
(4) hw cum other planets are nt in creation stories etc.

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Is there any intelligent life in those planets? Of what significant are they to our life in relation to God? What will mentioning the other planets prove?