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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Efewestern: 6:17pm On Jun 21, 2017
onuwaje:


ugberikoko (Ugborikoko) is in Uvwie

what do you say about the fact presented by fratermathy?

Also I would love to add to the little he said, 90% of industry / institution in warri are in Urhobo land, although the refinery is extend to itsekiri land, so it's 50/50.

am still looking for where to place ijaw in my ranking, In fact urhoboland is warri city and warri city is urhobo land.

Note I used Warri city, The other part of warri na itseke domain. grin
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Afam4eva(m): 6:19pm On Jun 21, 2017
PrecisionFx:



Mr Afam, I dont have time to go into a shouting/insulting match with you. Just proceed to understand the meaning of the words you used. Fine the Anthropological definition of Ethnic group and Tribe. It will educate u well enough to the extent that you would not need to look for whom to insult.


In this assertion, The IGBOS whose population is over 40 Million have been labelled one ethnic group, But Cross river(less than 4 million people) alone have over 20 ethnic groups. Why should the SE alone be the geopolitical zone in nigeria that have one ethnic group and the remaining 5 geopolitical zones in nigeria have average of 60 ethnic groups each.


An Ethnic Group is a group of tribes.......Digg it.

Its only in nigeria that each village is an ethnic group... grin
Cross Rivers is a state and not an ethnic group. The tribes.ethnic groups in the state don't speak the same language.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Afam4eva(m): 6:24pm On Jun 21, 2017
efeski:


Your case is indeed pathetic.
now listen and listen good.
a. Igbos across the Niger (from anambra to wherever their boundary lie) from time immemorial nine out of ten times will refuse to accept you guys as true Igbo. they say those ones nor be real Igbo.

b. some of your own folks deny the igbos across the Niger saying those ones are "across the niger". we are Delta ibo

If you lived in Delta state for at least 10 years these are arguments and terms you should be familiar with.

so it beggars belief to come here and display crass ignorance and attempt to turn history on its head while spewing insults in the process as if that's the only way y'all know to drive home a point.

you are free to join your brothers across the Niger but remember you are already classified as second class citizens by the same igbos you are here clamoring to join the so called land of the sun and remember also that you will have to leave Delta state because you cannot have your cake and eat it.
a word is enough for the wise
Why are people this silly. Does the land that Anioma are presently your land? What do you people always mean that they should go and join their people in the south-east? Are you saying they should pack their bags and properties and cross the bridge leaving Asaba, Agbor, Ogwashi-ukwu behind? Are some of you inherently daft or just trolling?

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jun 21, 2017
xzibit44:
. anioma are different from Igbo by Nigeria constitution.

The last time I checked, there is no ethnic group
recognized as Anioma within or outside Nigeria

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Buylekkinownow(m): 6:28pm On Jun 21, 2017
okay


Please check my signature
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by asamaigho(m): 6:55pm On Jun 21, 2017
fratermathy:


Stop it already man. You want to drag Warri here too?
Warri is in Delta South. Warri South is occupied by Okere-Urhobo, Agbassa-Urhobo and Itsekiri. Abi?

nope! am just concerned abt ur maps,t hey are somewhat misleading.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by tobtap: 7:04pm On Jun 21, 2017
sandammy:
The Baruba people of Kwara State occupying the Baruteen Local Government in the State with headquarter in Kosubosu are one of the most hospitable and peace loving people. We have some of them also on Benin Republic. They speak the Bantunu Language and their major towns and Cities include Kosubosu, Gwanara, Ilesa-Baruba, Okuta, Yashikira, Niki and so on. They are mostly agrarian in occupation and predominantly Muslims.
great people... peaceful n powerful(jazz tinz) cool cool .. one of my best friend is baruba... picked up a few of der language from him...cheers
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by jordinsparkles(f): 7:36pm On Jun 21, 2017
ewa26:
hun what's the difference between igbo and yoruba jollof rice?
u don come again! U wan start war abii?

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Eastfield1: 7:41pm On Jun 21, 2017
efeski:


Your case is indeed pathetic.
now listen and listen good.
a. Igbos across the Niger (from anambra to wherever their boundary lie) from time immemorial nine out of ten times will refuse to accept you guys as true Igbo. they say those ones nor be real Igbo.

b. some of your own folks deny the igbos across the Niger saying those ones are "across the niger". we are Delta ibo

If you lived in Delta state for at least 10 years these are arguments and terms you should be familiar with.

so it beggars belief to come here and display crass ignorance and attempt to turn history on its head while spewing insults in the process as if that's the only way y'all know to drive home a point.

you are free to join your brothers across the Niger but remember you are already classified as second class citizens by the same igbos you are here clamoring to join the so called land of the sun and remember also that you will have to leave Delta state because you cannot have your cake and eat it.
a word is enough for the wise

this is funny.
we are watching.
we are waiting

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jun 21, 2017
Afam4eva:

Cross Rivers is a state and not an ethnic group. The tribes.ethnic groups in the state don't speak the same language.

Are u still insisting that tribes and ethnic group are the same thing?
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jun 21, 2017
fratermathy:


Well said. Your explanation seems plausible. At least you made your point like a rational being. But you should also know that Ukwuani and Ika are taught in schools as a separate language from Igbo. The languages, especially Ukwuani, are mutually unintelligible with Igbo, even to one another.


Ukwuani is IGBO and IGBO is Ukwuani... I really wander where u people pick up all these lies from. We don't have one igbo language per sey, We have very many dialects... There are so many dialects of the igbo language that I don't understand even though I am a pure breed. I don't hear Jack wen someone from Izza/Ezilo speaks igbo.


Also try n forget what they might be teaching in schools, it's just how they keep dividing the igbos.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Zoolezoo(m): 7:55pm On Jun 21, 2017
fratermathy:


I created a thread in 2015 concerning the Warri ownership saga and it even made FP then.

Warri is a very volatile place but let me attempt to present you with some facts:

1. The traditional "Warri" is an Itsekiri enclave and the name seems to be derived from Itsekiri as well.
2. The modern Warri is largely made up of Urhoboland, with some parts of Itsekiriland.
3. The cosmopolitan Warri is 80% Urhoboland (extending to Delta Central LGAs such as Uvwie, Udu and Okpe).
4. The Olu of Warri title has attracted criticisms, litigations, etc between Ijaws (who also occupy riverine Warri areas), Itsekiri and Urhobos.
5. It was finally resolved that the Olu of Warri is JUST a title and he has no hold over Urhobo land or Ijaw land in Warri.
6. Traditional Urhobo homesteads in Warri include: Otovwodo, Ejeba, parts of Okere, Ugberikoko, Ogunu, Iyara, etc.
7. Itsekiri areas in Warri include Upper and Lower Erejuwa, parts of Okere, Ugbuwanugue, parts of Alder's town, NPA area, etc
8. Itsekiris use the term "Warri" to refer to their entire land, including those areas NOT in the city of Warri.
9. Urhobos use Warri to refer ONLY to the Warri City where their land is situated and its adjoining areas. Urhobos have never claimed to own all of Warri but ONLY where their land is located.
10. Both the Urhobos and Itsekiris are MIGRANTS to the Warri area. Itsekiris migrated from Yorubaland while the Urhobos there migrated from Olomu and Agbarha. The time of the migration and who arrived first is a subject of controversy and lost to history.

Who owns the following parts/towns of Warri township:

Ubeji
Ajatiton
Ajamimigha
Ifie
Ugbolokposo
Jalla
Ogunnu
Ugboroke

Aren't these all Itsekiri locales within the actual Warri township?
cc: Efewestern

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jun 21, 2017
xzibit44:
. anioma are different from Igbo by Nigeria constitution.


Pls grow up.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Zoolezoo(m): 8:31pm On Jun 21, 2017
PrecisionFx:



Mr Afam, I dont have time to go into a shouting/insulting match with you. Just proceed to understand the meaning of the words you used. Fine the Anthropological definition of Ethnic group and Tribe. It will educate u well enough to the extent that you would not need to look for whom to insult.


In this assertion, The IGBOS whose population is over 40 Million have been labelled one ethnic group, But Cross river(less than 4 million people) alone have over 20 ethnic groups. Why should the SE alone be the geopolitical zone in nigeria that have one ethnic group and the remaining 5 geopolitical zones in nigeria have average of 60 ethnic groups each.

An Ethnic Group is a group of tribes.......Digg it.

Its only in nigeria that each village is an ethnic group... grin

So What are the other significant tribes in the SW?
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by pazienza(m): 8:51pm On Jun 21, 2017
efeski:


Your case is indeed pathetic.
now listen and listen good.
a. Igbos across the Niger (from anambra to wherever their boundary lie) from time immemorial nine out of ten times will refuse to accept you guys as true Igbo. they say those ones nor be real Igbo.

b. some of your own folks deny the igbos across the Niger saying those ones are "across the niger". we are Delta ibo

If you lived in Delta state for at least 10 years these are arguments and terms you should be familiar with.

so it beggars belief to come here and display crass ignorance and attempt to turn history on its head while spewing insults in the process as if that's the only way y'all know to drive home a point.

you are free to join your brothers across the Niger but remember you are already classified as second class citizens by the same igbos you are here clamoring to join the so called land of the sun and remember also that you will have to leave Delta state because you cannot have your cake and eat it.
a word is enough for the wise

You are already roaming, just remove your cloths and you would paint the full picture of who you are.

In what world do second class citizens rule the first class ones? Anioma are second class Igbos, yet Uwaechue, an Anioma son from Ogwashi uku. was elected the president of the apex Igbo organisation, Ohanaeze Ndiigbo for two tenures.
Aniomas are second class Igbos, yet for years, the Asagba of Asaba was the chairman of the Igbo traditional rulers association and a grand patron of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo. Anioma sons like Achuzia, Okocha Peter, have held / still holds high positions in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.

You Igbophobic Edoids in Delta keep wishing that Ndiigbo across the Niger hate those of us in the East so that you can appropriate them in your phantom Niger Delta republic, but you will always keep failing, because our Enu-ani people know better, after the bile your spilled over the Capital status of Asaba in Delta state, instead of Warri, you must think they are foolish.

And let me remind you, the lands of Enu ani people remain their ancestral lands, any day you attempt rubbish is the day you will feel the full strength of the Igbo nation.

Just keep roaming.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jun 21, 2017
The great tragedy of Nairaland :
A beautiful thread ruined by the usual e-war nonsense sad sad

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 9:03pm On Jun 21, 2017
PrecisionFx:
Lack of knowledge has made the Nigerian youth to keep using the Word Tribe and Ethnic Group to have the same meaning. All that you have listed here are Tribes found in Nigeria. We have only 3 Ethnic groups in Nigeria and they Are IGBO, HAUSA and YORUBA. The other over 300 Tribes in Nigeria are grouped under the 3 Ethnic groups that i have mentioned.

Tribes make up an ethnic group,China has thousands of Tribes but they have only about 50 Ethnic groups. Please read up Anthropological definitions of Tribe and ethnic group so that you can get a clearer picture.

Good day.

This is perhaps the second most sensible comment I've seen here since the usual ewar started here.

However in Nigeria, the issue is slightly more convoluted than that. Political issues I guess.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by fratermathy(m): 9:27pm On Jun 21, 2017
asamaigho:


nope! am just concerned abt ur maps,t hey are somewhat misleading.

I didn't draw the maps man. I saw it on Delta STate government website.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by onuwaje(m): 9:30pm On Jun 21, 2017
Efewestern:


what do you say about the fact presented by fratermathy?

Also I would love to add to the little he said, 90% of industry / institution in warri are in Urhobo land, although the refinery is extend to itsekiri land, so it's 50/50.

am still looking for where to place ijaw in my ranking, In fact urhoboland is warri city and warri city is urhobo land.

Note I used Warri city, The other part of warri na itseke domain. grin


how many industries are in Warri


u can list them out so we take it from there
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by fratermathy(m): 9:30pm On Jun 21, 2017
Zoolezoo:


Who owns the following parts/towns of Warri township:

Ubeji
Ajatiton
Ajamimigha
Ifie
Ugbolokposo
Jalla
Ogunnu
Ugboroke

Aren't these all Itsekiri locales within the actual Warri township?
cc: Efewestern

Ogunu is an Urhobo town, under Agbassa Kingdom.
Ajamimogha and Ugboroke are in Warri City are Itsekiri locales.

The others are communities in the local government. They are not within the metropolitan Warri. They are to Warri, what Okwe and Ibusa are to Asaba (if you are familiar with Asaba).

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by fratermathy(m): 9:31pm On Jun 21, 2017
PrecisionFx:


Ukwuani is IGBO and IGBO is Ukwuani... I really wander where u people pick up all these lies from. We don't have one igbo language per sey, We have very many dialects... There are so many dialects of the igbo language that I don't understand even though I am a pure breed. I don't hear Jack wen someone from Izza/Ezilo speaks igbo.


Also try n forget what they might be teaching in schools, it's just how they keep dividing the igbos.

Are you not the same person that said there are only 3 ethnic groups in Nigeria? I guess Urhobo is a tribe of Igbo? Right?

You just wake up one day and come up with "bright ideas" about ethnicities. For your information mister, the word "tribe" is out of fashion. Your usage of it is reminiscent of the colonial masters who balkanised Nigeria and her ethnicities. Ethnic groups are peopled by those of common languages and cultures. Within ethnicities, there are sub-ethnicities/clans/kingdoms/etc.

Don't delude yourself and think your ethnic group is so important just because of the colonial mistake called Nigeria.

SirWere:


This is perhaps the second most sensible comment I've seen here since the usual ewar started here.

However in Nigeria, the issue is slightly more convoluted than that. Political issues I guess.


Political? Like really? So in your mind, all the ethnicities in the Niger Delta area that speak their own diverse languages (without any relationship to each other whatsoever) are political creations? Right?

Many of you from the Nigerian reductionist triad of Igbo, Hausa, and Yoruba, are so deluded by this contraption that you really feel you are better than the average man who was chanced to be born into a small ethnic group. Well, guess what? We really don't care what you think.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 9:43pm On Jun 21, 2017
What is the difference between a tribe and an ethnic group? As far as I can tell, nothing really. But don’t take my word for it. Let’s see what dictionary.com has to say on the matter. “Tribe – any aggregate of people united by ties of descent from a common ancestor, community of customs and traditions, adherence to the same leaders, etc.” “Ethnic group – pertaining to or characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.” Do you see a difference?

Then why is it that Africa is said to have tribes, and Europe is said to have ethnic groups? Note ethnic groups have a “common and distinctive culture, religion, language.” There are at least one thousand groups in Africa with common and distinctive culture, religion and language, whereas in Europe many ethnic groups have the same language and religion. If anything, that would make the term “ethnic group” more appropriate to Africa than Europe. But essentially the two terms have the same denotative meaning.

What a word “denotes” is its direct meaning. What a word “connotes’ is its indirect meaning. Connotations are the shades of meaning that a word has picked up over time. The word “tribe” has connotations of being primitive while the word “ethnic group” does not. However, if one goes by that criteria, it should be noted that when the Portuguese arrived in the Congo, they were surprised at the sophisticated medical procedures of the people which included Caesarean sections, something they were totally ignorant of. Likewise, the military tactics of Shaka were copied and emulated by the British and the Germans.

The Native American groups were also called tribes. However, the entire political structure of the United States government with its separation of powers of branches of government and its decentralized federal system and other key aspects were lifted wholesale from the Iroquois Nation in New York by Benjamin Franklin. In short, words have power. We must be careful how we use them.

( by Arthur Lewin, author of Africa Is Not A Country: Its A Continent )

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by TheUmbra: 9:43pm On Jun 21, 2017
Some Delta Igbos saying they're not Igbos bears no significance any more than an Okpe man says he's not Urhobo.

And while the Delta Igbos produced 11 generals in Ojukwu's Biafran army lead by the great Kaduna Nsogwu, the Ohaneze Ndi Igbo, the largest, most significant, and influential Igbo socio-cultural body has been headed by a Delta Igbo son. This is proof that Igbos across the Niger have and always recognise their kin west of the Niger. So your second class citizenship rant has less value than a cow's dung.

You're politically naive and backward. Have the Anoimas which control 9 local government Area in Delta State not applied for Anioma state? Does that sound to you like they want to remain in Delta with or without Nigeria?

It is an uncommon foolishness for you to come explain to me what goes on in my father's house.



efeski:


Your case is indeed pathetic.
now listen and listen good.
a. Igbos across the Niger (from anambra to wherever their boundary lie) from time immemorial nine out of ten times will refuse to accept you guys as true Igbo. they say those ones nor be real Igbo.

b. some of your own folks deny the igbos across the Niger saying those ones are "across the niger". we are Delta ibo

If you lived in Delta state for at least 10 years these are arguments and terms you should be familiar with.

so it beggars belief to come here and display crass ignorance and attempt to turn history on its head while spewing insults in the process as if that's the only way y'all know to drive home a point.

you are free to join your brothers across the Niger but remember you are already classified as second class citizens by the same igbos you are here clamoring to join the so called land of the sun and remember also that you will have to leave Delta state because you cannot have your cake and eat it.
a word is enough for the wise

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by kenny1795(m): 9:46pm On Jun 21, 2017
ewa26:
hun what's the difference between igbo and yoruba jollof rice?
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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Dayoto: 9:54pm On Jun 21, 2017
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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jun 21, 2017
Zoolezoo:

So What are the other significant tribes in the SW?

Awori, Egun Egba,etc all make up the ethnic group called Yoruba.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by genieluv(f): 10:02pm On Jun 21, 2017
Mujtahida:

I have read your postings on the Kenyan thread. Seems you are quite knowledgeable about the history of the middle belt. I am from the middle belt too. Did you study history?

Naaah, i really did not study history, i just love learning history on my own.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 10:13pm On Jun 21, 2017
fratermathy:


Are you not the same person that said there are only 3 ethnic groups in Nigeria? I guess Urhobo is a tribe of Igbo? Right?

You just wake up one day and come up with "bright ideas" about ethnicities. For your information mister, the word "tribe" is out of fashion. Your usage of it is reminiscent of the colonial masters who balkanised Nigeria and her ethnicities. Ethnic groups are peopled by those of common languages and cultures. Within ethnicities, there are sub-ethnicities/clans/kingdoms/etc.

Don't delude yourself and think your ethnic group is so important just because of the colonial mistake called Nigeria.




Political? Like really? So in your mind, all the ethnicities in the Niger Delta area that speak their own diverse languages (without any relationship to each other whatsoever) are political creations? Right?

Many of you from the Nigerian reductionist triad of Igbo, Hausa, and Yoruba, are so deluded by this contraption that you really feel you are better than the average man who was chanced to be born into a small ethnic group. Well, guess what? We really don't care what you think.


Difference in language does not mean difference in ethnicity.


please go and read what ethnicity n tribe means, it's not a Nigerian thing, it's world over.


Read Scholarly articles on these definitions, it will help u a lot. Urobo, isoko, etc are tribes n not ethnic groups.
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by genieluv(f): 10:19pm On Jun 21, 2017
Realgana:

Please educate me on how or when Fulani jihadist attacked kwarrarfa.

Well, am not an expert here, but the little i know about this was that the jihad wars of the fulanis against Kwararafa and other middlebelt groups occured around the early to mid 19th century (1810-1840) and even until the late 19th century till the british arrived and defeated the caliphate, emirates and all of the rest of Nigerian peoples.

**** The fulanis immediately conquered and expanded to form Adamawa (Yola) and Gombe emirates from Sokoto sultanate as soon as the conquest of hausaland was complete and Kwararafa was attacked from Yola & Gombe emirates.
Yola gave birth to Muri (Jalingo) and Wase emirates (am not so sure about the latter). That was the begining of Jihad attacks/conquest on Kwararafa people because both Muri and Wase people were Kwararafans (Jukunoid peoples).
However Wukari (the capital of Kwararafa) defeated the fulanis woefully when the fulanis wanted to lauch further and they and the other neighbouring tribes of present day Adamawa/Taraba states (like the tribes of Numan federation), Mumuyes, Chambas and others who were not conquered by jihad continued warring with the Yola & Muri emirates until the British came.

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Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by david102(m): 10:36pm On Jun 21, 2017
What of the Igede/Egede people? Is there no analysis on them
Re: 30 Interesting Facts About Some Nigerian Minority Ethnic Groups by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jun 21, 2017
PrecisionFx:


Awori, Egun Egba,etc all make up the ethnic group called Yoruba.
On this you're quite wrong. They are sub tribes, not sub ethnic groups.
The Egba man is as Yoruba as the Ile ife man.

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