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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by kumulus(m): 10:58am On Jul 02, 2017
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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by malware: 10:58am On Jul 02, 2017
POpikin:
Foolish Hausa man


What made your people so dumb to have elected Hausa man as Governor of a Biafran state? Are Hausas so powerful like this?
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by eagleeye2: 10:59am On Jul 02, 2017
Shey una dey see wetin Mbaise people wan bring inside church? I was here yesterday saying this very same thing. Accept Bishop Okpaleke first and then you can lay your complaints later.
Since this crisis started, why haven't they ordained their young priests who were teary for ordination? Why haven't they confirmed their little boys and girls, ready for confirmation? And to think that it's the priests that are misleading the laity. Shameful.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by luminouz(m): 11:05am On Jul 02, 2017
ebu65:
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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nobody: 11:06am On Jul 02, 2017
Chiefpriest1:
That is the church for you today. Nobody submits to the will of God again.

Politics, bad politics has crept into the church of God. Favoritism, nepotism, ethnic bigotry are now the order of the day.

Nobody tells God " where you lead, I will follow " again. Its now about power , influence and money ". Sad, very sad.

Just look at the number of church cases in the court today. And what did Jesus say about court cases?

Imagine a politician now advising clerics on the right thing to do.

Very appalling..
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nobody: 11:07am On Jul 02, 2017
djpop100:
where on earth would a governor interfere with d decision of d church ? undecidedwhere on earth would a governor interfere with d decision of d church ?

Oga you are fool for asking such an unreasonable question. Go for a mental test biko

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nwodosis(m): 11:16am On Jul 02, 2017
seunmsg:


Nonsense talk like this is probably why the Ahiara crisis had lingered on for such a long time. If you can't talk peace in a sensible and diplomatic way, then keep shut for fvck sake.

Are you trying to be more Catholic than the Pope who has given his verdict on the matter? Nnaa, ga par'ogwu gi ñuo

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by madapcmod: 11:16am On Jul 02, 2017
Only in mbaise will such evil disobedience occur, when we get Biafra we shall handle them our way.

The pope decision is final, accept ur bishop or u all will be excommunicated and the diocese moved to another place.

Nonsense ppl.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by ABCJ(m): 11:19am On Jul 02, 2017
Nwodosis:
See foolishness and desperation, were they expecting Chrislam man like Okorocha to order his Holiness (Pope) to revise his decision? Why are they involving this dirty governor's hand into this matter? Their greed has blindfolded them and they seems to have forgotten that Pope is infallible! It is better for them to start warming up for a break away from the Catholic Church than hoping for the Pope to revise his decision.

What is this wan even saying, Bikonu
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nwodosis(m): 11:22am On Jul 02, 2017
ABCJ:

What is this wan even saying, Bikonu
He's saying the truth that hurts you
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by AtlanticBreeze: 11:31am On Jul 02, 2017
Rochas making sense for the first and probably the last time. The priest make obey the pope or pull out from the church. How they be dragging the church into disrepute. They need to be suspended too

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by manikspears: 11:32am On Jul 02, 2017
POpikin:
Foolish Hausa man

Don't just pour out what is in your mouth, use your brain.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Obcglobal(m): 11:38am On Jul 02, 2017
Thank God for His peace that is about to reign
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by manikspears: 11:41am On Jul 02, 2017
Nwodosis:
See foolishness and desperation, were they expecting Chrislam man like Okorocha to order his Holiness (Pope) to revise his decision? Why are they involving this dirty governor's hand into this matter? Their greed has blindfolded them and they seems to have forgotten that Pope is infallible! It is better for them to start warming up for a break away from the Catholic Church than hoping for the Pope to revise his decision.

Are you being reasonable or talking out of your hate for the governor? Bro put yourself in the bishop's shoes how will you feel if you are transferred to a place and you are being rejected violently over nothing. Bro it is wrong.you pray to go abroad and make don't you, do you pray to face such fate?
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Ichietome: 11:42am On Jul 02, 2017
EMMAUGOH:
A whole lay down rules by Catholics was boycotted to appoint the said bishop...which we know the appointed bishop politically made himself relevant to the pope to be appointed and the people are not happy about it.

But the press make it look like its just a tribal thing to give bad name to the peoples demand... I think some people in the know need to apologize to the people and explain why things were done the other way than allowing this issue to escalate.
Shut the hell up
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by ifyain: 11:43am On Jul 02, 2017
WHY CAN,T THESE MBAISE GUYS FORM THEIR OWN CHURCH IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO OBEY THE POPE? I JUST CAN UNDERSTAND THESE SO CALLED CHRISTIANS. IF AMADIOHA HAVE ANOINTED A CHIEF PRIEST CAN ANYBODY CHALLENGE IT?
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by nwosueugeneken: 11:46am On Jul 02, 2017
POpikin:
Foolish Hausa man
your first name is useless
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by musicwriter(m): 11:46am On Jul 02, 2017
You see, this is why I tell Africans slavery is still going on. Otherwise, why would anybody in Imo state, Nigeria, West Africa, need the authority of the pope to manage a church they built? And the pope needs a written apology from all the bishops? The people in that community should exit the Catholic Church and take over their church!!.

Rochas Okorocha is an "educated" person and obviously would align with white people against the aspirations of his own people- that's the purpose of western education in summary. Whatever decision that must be taken should be taken by people who grew up in that community, such people would be in better position to understand the yearning and position of the community, not a Euro-Afro hybrid individual without solid root on the culture and beliefs of Ahiara people.

And they say race or tribe doesn't matter? If race and ethnicity doesn't matter; when was the last time God installed a BLACK pope? Or, is it o.k for a racist God to always appoint white people as pope, but wrong for Ahiara people to choose a bishop of their choice?

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by dokiOloye(m): 11:46am On Jul 02, 2017
Flye:
I noticed Okorocha is one of the few Igbo men who is above tribal sentiment and emotion among Igbo's, may because he did not grow up in the east because I noticed Igbo that grew up in other parts of Nigeria does not harbour much hate and sentiment like others that grew up in the east.
Put Urself in d place of Igbos who grew up in d east and tell me if U wouldn't reason like them.
Apart from d injustice of no federal presence viz roads etc,police siege and extortion,thinks about this.
There is hardly any 5 years they do not bring back remains of ppl killed in d north in large numbers.When u ask of what happened,it will be flimsy like,a cartoon was drawn in Denmark,Plateau state indigenes are fighting wt hausa ppl in Jos and hausa ppl decided t kill Igbos,Nigeria wants to host Miss World and they will kill Igbos.
Kaduna Christians fight with muslims,d muslims will hunt Igbos within reach and kill.
Buhari lost elections in 2011 and they hunted Igbos and killed.
Put urself in that position bro.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Ichietome: 11:47am On Jul 02, 2017
LOL. SATAN HAS RELOCATED HIS HEADQUARTERS TO NIGERIA.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by persius555(m): 11:47am On Jul 02, 2017
In 1979, a certain Juhayman al-Otaybi, a prince from a Saudi royal family led a two weeks rebellion against the Saudi kingdom and family.

The centre stage of this confrontation with the Saudi National Guard took place right there at Islam's holiest site, Mecca.

Religion, irrespective of faith has always been distasteful when it veers off its doctrines and tenets to take a political shape.

Politics and religion have never mixed well. But when humans are involved, the possibility of separating the two is less then 1%.

Without humans, religion cannot exist. Human are creatures with flaws and faults. Religion on the other hand, strives for perfection.

How to reconcile the two is a great challenge to human existence.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nobody: 11:51am On Jul 02, 2017
huptin:
I would never have imagined that in my life time a day will come when priests would openly rebel against the pope....but it's happening live...the world has gone crazy.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Princewell2012(m): 11:59am On Jul 02, 2017
kocvalour:



if you are from Imo, you won't be deceived by dis man's mere words...
na person Weh no know am d take am serious

Dont mind him. Because he is supporting one nigeria. Am from Imo state as well. Okorocha is the most useless gorvernor among the rest.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by InvertedHammer: 12:01pm On Jul 02, 2017
EMMAUGOH:
A whole lay down rules by Catholics was boycotted to appoint the said bishop...which we know the appointed bishop politically made himself relevant to the pope to be appointed and the people are not happy about it.

But the press make it look like its just a tribal thing to give bad name to the peoples demand... I think some people in the know need to apologize to the people and explain why things were done the other way than allowing this issue to escalate.

Mbaise lost the agitation when they agreed to be under the administration of Cardinal Onaiyekan of Abuja Archdiocese than to be under Bishop Okpalaeke. I don't like how those idiotic priests are being treated with kids' gloves. They should all be derobbed so that they can go and form their own Mbaise Catholic church. As a matter of concern, all priests of Mbaise origin must be sent back to Mbaise to minister to their people.

I was expecting Bishop Okpaleke to be the one protesting his posting to Mbaise. Humans and devils should have no communication.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by kingdenny(m): 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2017
These priests forget obedience is better than sacrifice.
The owe their allegiance to the pope who is the head of the church.
The world Surely is coming to an end. The angels can now blow the trumpet
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jul 02, 2017
They can't even accept themselves but want to force us into their phantom biafra.

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by kingdenny(m): 12:25pm On Jul 02, 2017
musicwriter:
You see, this is why I tell Africans slavery is still going on. Otherwise, why would anybody in Imo state, Nigeria, West Africa, need the authority of the pope to manage a church they built? And the pope needs a written apology from all the bishops? The people in that community should exit the Catholic Church and take over their church!!.

Rochas Okorocha is an "educated" person and obviously would align with white people against the aspirations of his own people- that's the purpose of western education in summary. Whatever decision that must be taken should be taken by people who grew up in that community, such people would be in better position to understand the yearning and position of the community, not a Euro-Afro hybrid individual without solid root on the culture and beliefs of Ahiara people.

And they say race or tribe doesn't matter? If race and ethnicity doesn't matter; when was the last time God installed a BLACK pope? Or, is it o.k for a racist God to always appoint white people as pope, but wrong for Ahiara people to choose a bishop of their choice?

Do not advertise your foolishness for all to see. Ask Google if there has ever been a black pope, and beside Google search is free. Ndi mmadu sef
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Tecno66: 12:30pm On Jul 02, 2017
I dont know where we are going. Priests that should counsel people are being counselled. I thought they should know him better. What is home grown priest? Rubbish. Tribalism in the house of God.
Abagworo:
GOVERNMENT OF IMO STATE
PRESS RELEASE


GOVERNOR ROCHAS OKOROCHA TELLS PRIESTS & LAITY IN AHIARA MBAISE CATHOLIC DIOCESE TO OBEY THE POPE’S DIRECTIVE & ACCEPT BISHOP OKPALEKE


The Governor, Owelle Rochas Okorocha, weekend, met with Priests and Laity in the Ahiara Catholic Diocese, Mbaise and explained to them the need to obey the directive of the Pope by accepting Bishop Peter Okpaleke as the Bishop of the Diocese.
The governor who met with the Priests and Laity at the headquarters of the Diocese told them that the decision of the Pope was binding on them and regretted that the Priests were in the forefront of the agitation adding too that the Church would become an object of mockery if the crisis ends the way the Priests and Laity in the Diocese want it to end.


His word, “I’m here in Ahiara Mbaise Diocese to bring peace. I’ve been meeting with the priests of this Diocese for over one hour now. And the meeting is all about peace, peace, peace. Peace is very expensive and the bible says to us, pursue peace and not walk towards peace because peace is a very very expensive commodity, but there can be no peace without justice”.
He said “I am a catholic, and I’m also the governor of Imo State. I’ve come here to see my people. And address you on the burning issues affecting this Diocese. But I wish you can listen to me attentively so that you can go home with something. I’ve had meeting with all the Priests. I’ve listened to their anger, their grievances and I’m aware of all the historical backgrounds following this agitation. But the moment we are now is a very bad moment. There are so many agitations, so many crises here and there and it looks like Satan has relocated his headquarters to Nigeria. But by the grace of God, we shall fight and destroy these satanic forces”.


Hear him, “We’re talking about Ahiara Diocese, IPOB, Boko Haram, Kidnapping, Niger Delta etc. but the one that touches me so much is the crisis of Ahiara Diocese because this touches the fabrics of our faith. First, we’re Christians and you must understand that Christianity is a very difficult religion because Christianity doesn’t preach comfort for us rather, ability to accept persecution. Today, we have a challenge that whatever has made Ahiara a centre of crisis, we must change it for better”.


He continued, “Declaration of Biafran War, Ahiara; killing of a steward, Ahiara and now, Diocesan agitation spanning 6years and attracting global focus also Ahiara. We must change the story of Ahiara. I want to state here categorically that since this crisis, I’ve been listening patiently and watching. But I had wished that my advise was taken ab-initio and ipso-facto. If Mbaise must be in the news, it must be in the news for the right reasons.

This is because Mbaise is the largest single ethnic group in the South-East and there is no place you will go in this world, without having an Mbaise man, doing well in that region. Mbaise contributes substantially to what makes Imo thick”.
He continued “Now listen very well my brothers, what I want to say to you now is for your benefit and betterment. You must know that too much of right can also lead to wrong. Mbaise people have made their point.

The whole world has heard you, they have listened to you, any further issue on this matter by Mbaise, might not be spoken the way it had been heard before. Let me tell you the gospel truth of how the world is looking at you now, I don’t know how you will take it after my speech now. But I have spoken like Pontus Pilate, I have come to restore peace in this particular place”.
He further remarked “The whole world knows that the Pope has asked all the priests from Mbaise to write a letter of apology to him minus a few of them, to beg the Pope. It might be right, it might be wrong but that’s not the question. But the fact is that before the world, we are no longer enjoying this peace because Mbaise has more priests in the whole of South-East.

But sometimes, a wise person behaves foolishly for the sake of his children. So, we must change our style before we deny ourselves of our justice”.
“It’s unfortunate that the priests themselves are at the very front of this agitation because the decision of the Pope is binding on them. Please, we must preserve this our priestly order by maintaining the status quo from the papacy. Mbaise must never be seen as a people that disobeyed the Pope and the church”.


“Christianity never taught us to be violent rather it’s all about enduring persecution and pains. So, like the priests agreed with me earlier, there must be no room for protest. For now you have done well but don’t overdo it, just leave the stage when the ovation is hot”.
“I don’t think any Bishop would like to come to a place where the people don’t want him. You can’t force people to be with somebody they don’t want to stay with. But be careful how you reject people because many atimes, the rejected always turns out to be the best. There should be no more protests. No matter who the Pope sends to you, you must rise up to welcome him if not, the church will become an object of mockery. Because if the Pope takes it the way you want it, the church, the Catholic Church will die”.
“I want you to see the possibility that Mbaise sons can also become Bishops elsewhere extending to other states and will be accepted like any other”. The governor added.

At the end, Rev. Fr. Dr. Joseph Ezeji gave the vote of thanks, pledging allegiance to the papacy, to abide by the decisions of the Pope and confirming that all Mbaise Priests have written their letters of apology to the Pope. He stated that what the people are asking for is for any Bishop groomed from their soil to lead them. He said that the canon law seems to have been bent in the case of Ahiara Diocese.


Sam Onwuemeodo
Chief Press Secretary to the Governor.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Ezennaemeka1(m): 12:34pm On Jul 02, 2017
Ahiara diocese is a disgrace to Christendom.... If mbaise man could be made the vc of Unizik why can't Anambra cleric be made the Bishop of mbaise

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Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Flye: 12:39pm On Jul 02, 2017
dokiOloye:
Put Urself in d place of Igbos who grew up in d east and tell me if U wouldn't reason like them.
Apart from d injustice of no federal presence viz roads etc,police siege and extortion,thinks about this.
There is hardly any 5 years they do not bring back remains of ppl killed in d north in large numbers.When u ask of what happened,it will be flimsy like,a cartoon was drawn in Denmark,Plateau state indigenes are fighting wt hausa ppl in Jos and hausa ppl decided t kill Igbos,Nigeria wants to host Miss World and they will kill Igbos.
Kaduna Christians fight with muslims,d muslims will hunt Igbos within reach and kill.
Buhari lost elections in 2011 and they hunted Igbos and killed.
Put urself in that position bro.
I did not doubt that such things happened in Nigeria, but it happens to every single tribes in Nigeria. Infact Northern minority groups are the worse hit by this menace. However this people always exergirate what ever every body is facing because they have victim mentality, they brainwash people within their vicinity with hate mentality which does not happened to the people that grew up other places.
Re: Okorocha Tells Priests & Laity In Ahiara Diocese To Obey The Pope’s Directive by Mailthaddeus(m): 12:55pm On Jul 02, 2017
LasGidiOwner:


This is one of the reasons to prove that Mbaise people as a whole are worse than the devil itself.



Guy, u have PHD is Foolishness and Stupidity combined. So because of actions of a few people, the whole Mbaise man is worse than the devil? is that how much rationality ur brain can comprehend? Holy Gabriel like u

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