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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 4:27pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Idle Consumption is what the inverter consume when Switched off..

No load consumption is what inverter consume when Powered on and nothing is connected..

Efficiency is how much power does the inverter need to power of 100w load..
the ratio of Load (output)power to Input power

Fine
So I meant your 2nd point.
Is this response not better than the first?
No one is an island of knowledge.
grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 4:31pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Idle Consumption is what the inverter consume when Switched off..

No load consumption is what inverter consume when Powered on and nothing is connected..

Efficiency is how much power does the inverter need to power of 100w load..
the ratio of Load (output)power to Input power

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 4:38pm On Dec 26, 2021
odimbannamdi:


I am not sure I got you right.

Are you saying, when an inverter is switch off, but connected to a battery, it will still be consuming power/energy from the battery?

Please clarify us

Yes, it consume power when connected, Idle..
It also consume power when powdered on.. no Load..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 4:40pm On Dec 26, 2021
[quote author=dollarnaira post=108832954][/quote]

Post the spec sheet, for your inverter and not a random google post....
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 4:43pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Post the spec sheet, for your inverter and not a random google post....

Probably my energy meter is faulty grin
I strongly believed u know energy meter.
Na wetin i use
grin grin grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 4:43pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Post the spec sheet, for your inverter and not a random google post....

Na English translation be the issue here bro
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 4:54pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Post the spec sheet, for your inverter and not a random google post....

grin grin grin grin grin
Shey b u no say i know u
Lol
No fight here ooo
Na my property ooo
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 4:55pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Yes, it consume power when connected, Idle..
It also consume power when powdered on.. no Load..

Thanks for the response, sir. But just to be sure you got my question right:

If an inverter is switched off, but still connected to the battery, will it still consume power/energy?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 5:01pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Post the spec sheet, for your inverter and not a random google post....

All I know is that wen i plugged my energy meter to my inverter without spec sheet grin, then plug my ac cable, my energy meter reads 1.1w,and other details. By d time i turn on my trusted akt 5w bulb it jumps to 6.1w and it goes on and on....

Even manufacturers get surprised at times after a product is fully operational shifting a little from spec sheet or shit grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:09pm On Dec 26, 2021
dollarnaira:


All I know is that wen i plugged my energy meter to my inverter without spec sheet grin, then plug my ac cable, my energy meter reads 1.1w,and other details. By d time i turn on my trusted akt 5w bulb it jumps to 6.1w and it goes on and on....

Even manufacturers get surprised at times after a product is fully operational shifting a little from spec sheet or shit grin

You are measuring Inverter No Load consumption from AC Output

LOL

FYI, The 1.1w is the Energy meter consumption..

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:11pm On Dec 26, 2021
odimbannamdi:


Thanks for the response, sir. But just to be sure you got my question right:

If an inverter is switched off, but still connected to the battery, will it still consume power/energy?

Get a DC meter with a Shunt, Connect to Batteries before connecting inverter..

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:23pm On Dec 26, 2021
@ odimbannamdi
NL email no dey work for me..

See this Luminous inverter for example it has some lights on it.. which comes on as soon as you connect to batteries...

Maybe those lights comes up with magic. cheesy no mind me oo

So those little lights or meter on your inverter will consume power even Switched OFF, I hope you are clear now?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by islamics(m): 5:29pm On Dec 26, 2021
dollarnaira:
Modified sinewave inverter
Good for:
Most Non smart tvs
Rechargeable fans
Decoders
Bulbs

Bad for:
Sensitive electronics
Fans (normal)
Blender
Refrigerator
Florescent bulbs
Smart tvs

N.B: Confirmed after years of using souer 1000w inverter.
Thanks for this information. My TV is smart, I guess that is why I have issues.
My connection is bulbs and fan direct to the battery, so even if inverter is off, bulbs and fan work. Though I haven't connected the fan yet. Hoping to get it soon. The fan is DC.
Please do you have any idea if there will be issue for inverter fridge with my MSW inverter?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 5:32pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Get a DC meter with a Shunt, Connect to Batteries before connecting inverter..

Interesting! Will check and revert
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 5:59pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Stop misleading people, we are interested in No Load consumption and efficiency.. Not Idle Consumption..
Isn't Idle and No Load the same thing?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 6:00pm On Dec 26, 2021
islamics:

Thanks for this information. My TV is smart, I guess that is why I have issues.
My connection is bulbs and fan direct to the battery, so even if inverter is off, bulbs and fan work. Though I haven't connected the fan yet. Hoping to get it soon. The fan is DC.
Please do you have any idea if there will be issue for inverter fridge with my MSW inverter?
You are welcome.
Msw will damage compressor in the long run.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 6:00pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


You are measuring Inverter No Load consumption from AC Output

LOL

FYI, The 1.1w is the Energy meter consumption..

What do u expect
Na wetin i know na
grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by islamics(m): 6:02pm On Dec 26, 2021
dollarnaira:

You are welcome.
Msw will damage compressor in the long run.
Thanks.
So, na PSW sure pass be that.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 6:06pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:
@ odimbannamdi
NL email no dey work for me..

See this Luminous inverter for example it has some lights on it.. which comes on as soon as you connect to batteries...

Maybe those lights comes up with magic. cheesy no mind me oo

So those little lights or meter on your inverter will consume power even Switched OFF, I hope you are clear now?

Should this be used for all inverters. What about inverters that doesn't have these?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:09pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:
@ odimbannamdi
NL email no dey work for me..

See this Luminous inverter for example it has some lights on it.. which comes on as soon as you connect to batteries...

Maybe those lights comes up with magic. cheesy no mind me oo

So those little lights or meter on your inverter will consume power even Switched OFF, I hope you are clear now?


Baba, you forget to upload the picture o...lol

Well, as people say, we are all a product of our own realities.

This information is coming as a shock to me because the three inverters I use do not have indicator lights or screens that stay on even after switching off the inverter (with the terminals connected to the battery). The closest to an indicator one of the inverters have is a screen that shows the voltage of the battery or so. But even that goes off when you switch off the inverter. So I never would have thought that power could still be consumed by the inverter from the battery even after switching it off.

However, I am inclined to believe you because inverters typically make a spark when connected to a battery, accompanied by a beeping sound most times.

Well, the outcome of a DC meter test will give us more insight.

But it is just scary to think that even when not switched on, village people could still use the inverter to sap my batteries... sad

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 6:23pm On Dec 26, 2021
islamics:

Thanks.
So, na PSW sure pass be that.

As you progress on this journey, you will realize that peace of mind is GOLDEN. Even when you want to troubleshoot, you need to have a "base", which is a confirmation that you are sure of certain aspects in your system, and a PSW inverter will give you that confirmation/base to a a large extent.

Also, it is not out of place for you to have more than one inverter. It is a good idea to have an extra one for contingency. So close eye pass PSW inverter.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 6:45pm On Dec 26, 2021
islamics:

Thanks.
So, na PSW sure pass be that.
Yes bro for the smart tv and fridge/compressor.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by grafikii: 6:54pm On Dec 26, 2021
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 6:55pm On Dec 26, 2021
odimbannamdi:


Baba, you forget to upload the picture o...lol

Well, as people say, we are all a product of our own realities.

This information is coming as a shock to me because the three inverters I use do not have indicator lights or screens that stay on even after switching off the inverter (with the terminals connected to the battery). The closest to an indicator one of the inverters have is a screen that shows the voltage of the battery or so. But even that goes off when you switch off the inverter. So I never would have thought that power could still be consumed by the inverter from the battery even after switching it off.

However, I am inclined to believe you because inverters typically make a spark when connected to a battery, accompanied by a beeping sound most times.

Well, the outcome of a DC meter test will give us more insight.

But it is just scary to think that even when not switched on, village people could still use the inverter to sap my batteries... sad

The consumption is very negligible, 1w there about..

The Question is why do you experience that when you have the Power Switch turned OFF..

That's not enough to believe, Just get a meter and check..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 6:58pm On Dec 26, 2021
dollarnaira:


What do u expect
Na wetin i know na
grin grin

So Please go and Remove that claim for 1w idle consumption from your post.. it was a conclusion based on assumptions and not a correct way of testing...

It's misleading..

It's should be 6w to 15w based on few I have tested

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 7:00pm On Dec 26, 2021
ewizard1:

Should this be used for all inverters. What about inverters that doesn't have these?

There is still small current flowing out.. can be 0.1w
Not total idle.. battery is only Idle when nothing is connected..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 7:00pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


The consumption is very negligible, 1w there about..

The Question is why do you experience that when you have the Power Switch turned OFF..

That's not enough to believe, Just get a meter and check..
Capacitor is been charged up.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 7:02pm On Dec 26, 2021
ewizard1:

Capacitor is been charged up.

Yes, but you didn't switch on Inverter na... Why is it charging capacitor ?

So Idle Consumption exist.. and no load consumption exit case closed
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 7:02pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


There is still small current flowing out.. can be 0.1w
Not total idle.. battery is only Idle when nothing is connected..
That's true but I usually don't reason it.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 7:04pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


Yes, but you didn't switch on Inverter na... Why is it charging capacity ?
Because it's on directly on the battery's path before the switching starts. The button/switch to open the gate to the inverter is inside the inverter.

The consumption exist just for the charge up. When its filled, that's all.

That's why after the first spark, if you remove the battery for like 3 seconds on reconnect, it doesn't spark. Because the capacity is still charged.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 7:31pm On Dec 26, 2021
Dam5reey:


So Please go and Remove that claim for 1w idle consumption from your post.. it was a conclusion based on assumptions and not a correct way of testing...

It's misleading..

It's should be 6w to 15w based on few I have tested
Bros u too dey authoritative
Not good.
We are not writing exam with it.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 7:32pm On Dec 26, 2021
ewizard1:

Because it's on directly on the battery's path before the switching starts. The button/switch to open the gate to the inverter is inside the inverter.

The consumption exist just for the charge up. When its filled, that's all.

That's why after the first spark, if you remove the battery for like 3 seconds on reconnect, it doesn't spark. Because the capacity is still charged.
True
After first spark, nothing more.

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