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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by bilazego(m): 8:23pm On Jul 11, 2017
BetaThings:




You guys know very well that the policy was conceived and finalised by Jonathan's administration
Just as the current DISCOs and GENCOs bought the privatised power assets from Jonathan administration

The policy was explained by NERDC in 2013 on their facebook page
If you want to know the truth, check out the link


https://m.facebook.com/NERDC/posts/734776969881272

8 October 2013 at 20:41




Has this government ever taken responsibility for its actions? if it was conceived by the last government why not correct it and do the right thing. always blame blame blame!

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Iamzik: 8:33pm On Jul 11, 2017
FactualSpeech:
Both are totally different. Arabic is just a language that every tom,dick and harry can learn but Islamic religious knowledge encompasses lots and lots of things.
Now to the gist that I said you did not get,nobody is talking about Islamic Religious Knowledge but Arabic studies.
In 2014 there was basic school curriculum to have a uniform curriculum across the country. NERDC was given the duty and they reviewed 22 different subjects into 7 headings which made some subjects have sub under it. An example is Religious and National Values which have CRK,IRS, Civic Education, Social studies etc. It has two or three more sub-headings like that. The policy states that different classes should be used for CRK or IRS depending on which one you want to study.
For Arabic, it is stated clearly as "OPTIONAL" and the heading of the list of subjects reads "a minimum of 6 and a maximum of 7 subjects(which is for anyone offering Arabic)".
With this there should have been no cries to the Ag. President or the media of CRK being scrapped or IRS being imposed.
Arabic was the bone of contention not CRK or IRS. Their claim is Arabic is imposed on their children when they are not Muslims. This is false and an open minded look into NERDC website will educate anyone interested in facts.
The spread of this falsehood by CAN,Apostle Suleman and others is being portrayed as if the curriculum was introduced under the Buhari led administration by a Muslim northerner Minister of Education (knowing fully well the state of religious divides in the country in which a small ignition can lead to destruction of lots of things) where as it was introduced under Jonathan administration with Wike as the coordination minister of education I guess.
Please join me in reading this link
http://nerdc.org.ng/eCurriculum/
CurriculumStructure.aspx

Needless policy change in the first place.
What us wrong with the previous curriculum where you simply choose between CRK and IRK?

This is what you get when you attempt to complicate things unnecessarily.

So if IRK and CRK is under civic education as one subject then who will teach that subject? Christian or Moslem teacher? How will the exam be set? Will a Muslim be asked to answer CRK question? Who will mark it? Will a Christian teacher mark IRK exam?
What does he know about Islam? Religion is beyond academic exercise. It's a believe, a conviction.

The house did the right thing. No need to complicate things.

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Austin234(m): 8:41pm On Jul 11, 2017
The Honourable Minister of Education should be fired by now

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by linearity: 8:43pm On Jul 11, 2017
mapet:


....and these your submission is supported by what part of the constitution?

Simple civic lessons in primary school enumerated all these.

The Executive branch oversees the implementation of the laws of the land, the legislators make those laws.

The Ministry of Education and the bodies of laws by which it functions was not established by the Constitution, but by an Act of the Legislators; after that Act is signed, it became law and governors how the executive branch of government oversees the ministry of Education. The Executive have a leeway in promogatings rules, guidelines, etc for the day to day running of that ministry as long as those rules & guidelines don't violate the original Act that gave the Ministry it's powers and legality.

Now, the Legislators can go back and amend that Act to further clarify, Add, substract, modify, etc...both Houses must agree with the new modifications and it must be signed into law for it to replace the original Act, if the Executive vetos it, the Legislators have to see, if they have the requisite 2-3rd majority to override that veto...if they do, the new Act becomes law despite the refusal of the Executive branch.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by mechanics(m): 8:46pm On Jul 11, 2017
Better
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by mapet: 8:48pm On Jul 11, 2017
linearity:


Simple civic lessons in primary school enumerated all these.

The Executive branch oversees the implementation of the laws of the land, the legislators make those laws.

The Ministry of Education and the bodies of laws by which it functions was not established by the Constitution, but by an Act of the Legislators; after that Act is signed, it became law and governors how the executive branch of government oversees the ministry of Education. The Executive have a leeway in promogatings rules, guidelines, etc for the day to day running of that ministry as long as those rules & guidelines don't violate the original Act that gave the Ministry it's powers and legality.

Now, the Legislators can go back and amend that Act to further clarify, Add, substract, modify, etc...both Houses must agree with the new modifications and it must be signed into law for it to replace the original Act, if the Executive vetos it, the Legislators have to see, if they have the requisite 2-3rd majority to override that veto...if they do, the new Act becomes law despite the refusal of the Executive branch.

I am specifcally asking you which part of the constitution states that

1. vested with the constitutional powers to give the executive guidelines
2. make new laws that restricts or limits or directs what the executives does

Your argument is based on your civic studies in Pry school?
SMDH
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Organs(m): 8:55pm On Jul 11, 2017
PreyingMantis:
Islam will always fail... Darkness can never triumph over light. We all should join hands and kill Islam before it kills us. Islam is evil...

Bros, the #1 commodity sought after and needed the world over is oil and Saudi Arabia, a muslim country is #1 in oil. Even yeye Trump with his big mouth, the first country he visited is Saudi Arabia. One more thing bros, if you go to Israel, and then go to Saudi Arabia, Saudi will bounce you, you cannot enter Saudi Arabia with your Naija passport showing that you have been to Israel. Same goes for many Arab Countries. Finally, there is no Church in Saudi Arabia, and you have to be Muslim to enter Mecca, a city in Saudi Arabia, be you anybody, you cannot go there unless you are muslim, so with your analogy, they are darkness right, yet God blessed them with oil, so how say you bros?
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by charlesucheh(m): 9:02pm On Jul 11, 2017
AND THE WINNER OF THE BATTLE GOES TO THE CRUSADERS.......

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by donjazet(m): 9:28pm On Jul 11, 2017
masonkz:
Of what use are these religious subjects in school??

Of what benefit is it to the nation? How exactly would these religious subjects help our kids in rational thinking?

Much ado about nothing.

Indeed, it's very much unfortunate that our leaders can't see that religion or rather excess of is unhealthy for the society. It reduces the logical thought processes of many individuals.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by shaddoww: 9:31pm On Jul 11, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Yoruba Muslim
For information, am a xtrian, but I av stopped being misled by a generation dat has destroyed Nigeria in all aspects of life. Have u asked urself why dos spreading dis falsehood are yet to meet with d acting president or even d minister despite having access, did u ask urself why dey are yet to show u skuls where dey av stopped teaching crk? I served in a skul wen dis policy had already started n crk was never stopped.
Ask urself, wat has d generation of dis people done for Nigeria to b worthy of people's followership. They enjoyed everything good in Nigeria but destroyed everything for d coming generation. At d stage if our economic life, is crk d best thing we are supposed to b discussing now, wen serious developing countries are already putting ict n entrepreneurship on their curriculum? Abeg just free me. I only wished Nnamdi Kanu's revolution wasn't sectional, I wish he could turn it to a youth revolution n I will b glad to b his number 1 lieutenant from d south-west.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by PreyingMantis(m): 9:38pm On Jul 11, 2017
Organs:
Bros, the #1 commodity sought after and needed the world over is oil and Saudi Arabia, a muslim country is #1 in oil. Even yeye Trump with his big mouth, the first country he visited is Saudi Arabia. One more thing bros, if you go to Israel, and then go to Saudi Arabia, Saudi will bounce you, you cannot enter Saudi Arabia with your Naija passport showing that you have been to Israel. Same goes for many Arab Countries. Finally, there is no Church in Saudi Arabia, and you have to be Muslim to enter Mecca, a city in Saudi Arabia, be you anybody, you cannot go there unless you are muslim, so with your analogy, they are darkness right, yet God blessed them with oil, so how say you bros?
Senseless long story... #Islamabad

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Kingspin(m): 9:47pm On Jul 11, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked


Osinbanjo is a failure
Osinbanjo is a puppet
Osinbanjo is an embarrassment to Christians
Osinbanjo is a rubberstamp
Osinbanjo is a toy
Osinbanjo is truly like Awo


Thanks to the House of Reps for thwarting the subtle islamization of Nigeria
I think this is beyond VP
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Omonigeriarere: 9:48pm On Jul 11, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked


Osinbanjo is a failure
Osinbanjo is a puppet
Osinbanjo is an embarrassment to Christians
Osinbanjo is a rubberstamp
Osinbanjo is a toy
Osinbanjo is truly like Awo


Thanks to the House of Reps for thwarting the subtle islamization of Nigeria

What kind of primitive brains are you carrying in your empty skull? Must everything be tribalized by you?

Apart from the fact that the policy you aretalking about was made during GEJ's regime, can Osinbajo singlehandedly make such policy and take over the power of Minister of Education?

Honestly, your tribalistic indomie brain needs scanning so that it can be freed from all these viruses.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Shalomdee(f): 10:24pm On Jul 11, 2017
EazyMoh:
Lol funny people, who told then they had such power?
And can you imagine this useless Vanguard has the audacity to even call the policy Buhari's.
God will judge all of you!

And you too. You think Nigeria can be islamized abi? Shame

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Nobody: 10:36pm On Jul 11, 2017
BetaThings:


And nobody is contesting it
But PDP was fighting TSA and Fayose said not in my state
BVN was Sanusi's idea and I remember the day he called people to CBN office in Lagos explain how it would work
Jonathan sacked him

The difference between Buhari and Jonathan is that he implemented his Christianisation rather than announce it
Pastor Oritsejafor was one of the most powerful Nigerians then
Did you remember his planed being used to ferry cash to South Africa?
Prof Odinkalu said he ran into the convoy of Pastor Oritsejafor when Jonathan was president, he said he was amazed, he thought it was a service Chief that was being escorted

Don't forget to also list Aso Rock people by father Mbaka.

Don't forget to list how Lia Muhammad told the whole world he owe nobody explanation on how money is spent.


All the weapons APC told America not to sold to GEJ's administration, there are the same weapons bought by GEJ's administration that APC are still using today not to talk of the ones corrupt military agencies conniving with APC members that got them into their various positions using to sponsoring herdsmen to be killing farmers and the host communities.


During weekend Nigeria presidential jet was seen in London with billions of dollars being wasted on as packing lot. What do you have to say about this?


Sanusi was giving different figures of the same financial report. Because APC and Sultan promised to made him emir of Kano should he worked against his boss GEJ to give advantage to Buhari to rig power back to north.

Can you tell the world how much APC and Abbar Kayri and the northern cabals spending on Buhari secret coma?

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by Shalomdee(f): 10:36pm On Jul 11, 2017
FactualSpeech:
Both are totally different. Arabic is just a language that every tom,dick and harry can learn but Islamic religious knowledge encompasses lots and lots of things.
Now to the gist that I said you did not get,nobody is talking about Islamic Religious Knowledge but Arabic studies.
In 2014 there was basic school curriculum to have a uniform curriculum across the country. NERDC was given the duty and they reviewed 22 different subjects into 7 headings which made some subjects have sub under it. An example is Religious and National Values which have CRK,IRS, Civic Education, Social studies etc. It has two or three more sub-headings like that. The policy states that different classes should be used for CRK or IRS depending on which one you want to study.
For Arabic, it is stated clearly as "OPTIONAL" and the heading of the list of subjects reads "a minimum of 6 and a maximum of 7 subjects(which is for anyone offering Arabic)".
With this there should have been no cries to the Ag. President or the media of CRK being scrapped or IRS being imposed.
Arabic was the bone of contention not CRK or IRS. Their claim is Arabic is imposed on their children when they are not Muslims. This is false and an open minded look into NERDC website will educate anyone interested in facts.
The spread of this falsehood by CAN,Apostle Suleman and others is being portrayed as if the curriculum was introduced under the Buhari led administration by a Muslim northerner Minister of Education (knowing fully well the state of religious divides in the country in which a small ignition can lead to destruction of lots of things) where as it was introduced under Jonathan administration with Wike as the coordination minister of education I guess.
Please join me in reading this link
http://nerdc.org.ng/eCurriculum/
CurriculumStructure.aspx

Sorry but we cannot be brainwashed by these

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:17am On Jul 12, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked


Osinbanjo is a failure
Osinbanjo is a puppet
Osinbanjo is an embarrassment to Christians
Osinbanjo is a rubberstamp
Osinbanjo is a toy
Osinbanjo is truly like Awo


Thanks to the House of Reps for thwarting the subtle islamization of Nigeria
best comment by NwaAmaikpe.
Buhari is a Clueless cow, Osinbajo is a dummy.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by riseabovehate: 12:21am On Jul 12, 2017
gurunlocker:
Thank God... If you are interested in learning arabic/irs then go for it. Don't force it on us.


Who Arabic don rep. Someone came out and said it was a lie it wasn't removed an initial.
Naija my yeye country

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:23am On Jul 12, 2017
0b100100111:
Ifa and Okija should also be added as independent subject


Confusing the future generation with same religion there generations never gained anything from

Teaching them about fictitious god
where did this one keep his senses?
I pity you.

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:27am On Jul 12, 2017
zxcvb:



I think you have a deal with the mods, if not you would have been banned a long time ago.
Who knows you might just be a mod with another nairaland account just to fan the embers of tribalism..

Continue in you stupidity , enjoy your fame on nairaland... don't get a job.... 20yrs from now u just might regret all the time u wasted saying trash on a faceless forum
Yoruba Muslim. Na so the thing pain you reach?

Your islamization plans have failed.

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:31am On Jul 12, 2017
PreyingMantis:
Islam will always fail... Darkness can never triumph over light. We all should join hands and kill Islam before it kills us. Islam is evil...
lol no allow make one Yoruba Muslim mod ban you o lol.
Your comments do make i tear laugh.

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:39am On Jul 12, 2017
Jolar101:
The fear of losing elections in 2019 by Christians votes.

That doesn't mean you won't be voted out due to your bad governance and inability to represent your constituents but your wardrobe allowances and budget paddings and using constituencies projects funds for you and your families interest.
lol
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by guychidile: 12:41am On Jul 12, 2017
if the removing the crk and replacing it Arabic by the minister is not constitutional,then he should be summoned ,and do the needful
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 12:46am On Jul 12, 2017
apache4:




You are just an Animated Fool ..........
typical Yoruba Muslim.
Insult and abuses are enshrined in the Quran cos profake Mohammed was a terrorist.
Allah of Islam is a vagabond.
Islam will be scrapped soon in this country.

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by 0b100100111: 12:55am On Jul 12, 2017
OgaBuhari:
where did this one keep his senses?
I pity you.

I love your question!

How did keep my sense where I wouldn't have believed that a man in the Middle-East died for my sins in Africa


I never kept my sense where I would believe in a killer that watch his own building collapse on worshippers

I never kept it where to serve an impotent Go d that can stand when matters arises

Someone who couldn't save his own son from murder.


Hello! Where is your own sense?
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by OgaBuhari: 1:01am On Jul 12, 2017
Organs:

[s]
Bros, the #1 commodity sought after and needed the world over is oil and Saudi Arabia, a muslim country is #1 in oil. Even yeye Trump with his big mouth, the first country he visited is Saudi Arabia. One more thing bros, if you go to Israel, and then go to Saudi Arabia, Saudi will bounce you, you cannot enter Saudi Arabia with your Naija passport showing that you have been to Israel. Same goes for many Arab Countries. Finally, there is no Church in Saudi Arabia, and you have to be Muslim to enter Mecca, a city in Saudi Arabia, be you anybody, you cannot go there unless you are muslim, so with your analogy, they are darkness right, yet God blessed them with oil, so how say you bros [/s] ?
where did you fetch all these trash from?

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Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by koboko69: 2:09am On Jul 12, 2017
nwamehn:


Maybe I am wrong with my interpretation, I stand to be corrected though, but I don't think that what the house of reps did changes the fact that Arabic would be made compulsory for some people who sincerely wouldn't wish to offer it.
The house of reps only brought
back Islamic Studies and CRK as single subjects out of the Civic Education they were merged into before, but Arabic studies would still continue because Arabic is made compulsory if u can't offer French, the option. Same way French is made compulsory if u can't offer Arabic.
Both of us know how scarce French senior secondary school teachers are in Nigeria, which would mean that most of these students would have to settle for Arabic.

So Arabic teachers plenty pass French. Make una kontinu. French was almost like compulsory all Tru my sec sch....and I know it's same for many others. It's now Arabic was introduced that French teachers are now scarce. Ok na
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by koboko69: 2:15am On Jul 12, 2017
gameboyo:


Why didn't he continue with other noble project and programs initiated by the Jonathan administration?
Why did he dump youwin and other nobles programs? U guys are always fun of coming up with "Jonathan initated it" once buharis evil ideas are resisted by Nigerians. Shame on all of u

Abeg make una shut up jare. Y'all reminded us of how it was GEJ that initiated TSA...but u don't want us to remind u of how it was GEJ that initiated a policy... which is still not bad no matter how y'all try to spin it and put the religious under tone in it which is pure foolishness. See the useless Vanguard isolate CRK too and leave IRK for silly dumb citizens, some who are supposed graduates. There is nothing wrong with the policy in the first place... weather GEJ or Buhari...y'all are just making senseless noise.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by koboko69: 2:19am On Jul 12, 2017
Buharimustgo:


Trash argument, must Buhari implement bad polices of GEJ?The same man people like u said everything about him is evil?

Lol...so GEJ had a Muslim agenda?
I blame CAN, and clowns like FFK for the epic dumbness that have been going on on the internet.
Re: House Of Representatives Returns CRK As Independent Subject by linearity: 2:28am On Jul 12, 2017
mapet:


I am specifcally asking you which part of the constitution states that

1. vested with the constitutional powers to give the executive guidelines
2. make new laws that restricts or limits or directs what the executives does

Your argument is based on your civic studies in Pry school?
SMDH

This is one childish post from you and if you are mature enough, I believe you know it...

Part II, Section 5.1(a) & (b) of the Nigeria Constitution states:

"5.1 Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the Executive powers of the federation:

(a) shall be vested in the President and may subject as aforesaid and to the provisions of any law made by the National Assembly, be exercised by him either directly or through the Vice-President and Ministers of the Government of the Federation or officers in the public service of the federation; and

(b) shall extend to the execution and maintenance of this Constitution, all laws made by the National Assembly and to all matters with respect to which the National Assembly has, for the time being, power to make laws.

From the above, it is clear to any one with common sense that, the Legislators made laws that the Executive must follow/execute and they can amend those laws thereafter to either expand, limit, restrict, modify, etc what the executive must then follow/execute.

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