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Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 8:56pm On Feb 02, 2010
Research 2000 poll (conducted Jan 2010)


39 percent of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached, 29 percent are not sure, 32 percent said he should not be voted out of office.
36 percent of Republicans believe Obama was not born in the United States, 22 percent are not sure, 42 percent think he is a natural citizen.
31 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a "Racist who hates White people" -- the description once adopted by Fox News's Glenn Beck. 33 percent were not sure, and 36 percent said he was not a racist.
63 percent of Republicans think Obama is a socialist, 16 percent are not sure, 21 percent say he is not
24 percent of Republicans believe Obama wants "the terrorists to win," 33 percent aren't sure, 43 percent said he did not want the terrorist to win.
21 percent of Republicans believe ACORN stole the 2008 election, 55 percent are not sure, 24 percent said the community organizing group did not steal the election.
23 percent of Republicans believe that their state should secede from the United States, 19 percent aren't sure, 58 percent said no.
53 percent of Republicans said they believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama


This comment sums it all up . . .

Socialism? No proof there. Racist? No proof there. many of these people polled find it hard to accept change. It's O.K. to have a black president in Hollywood because they know that it's all scripted(except for 24. These people believe that this is THE only way to treat suspects). However, when REAL LIFE occurs, it's reprehensible for America to have a black president in their eyes. In order to be able to express their anger without being called b.i.g.ots or racists, they start using language(code) like uppity, arrogant, racist, socialist, Leninist, Marxist, Communist, Halfrican, etc. (we've all heard this before). NOBODY can be THIS angry at someone WITHOUT holding some PREDETERMINED prejudice or animosity. it makes ZERO sense to h8 THIS much without credible evidence.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by preselect(m): 4:53am On Feb 03, 2010
have u not heard that republicans sponsored a bill in the senate to monitor the deficit through a bipartisan committee, as soon as Obama agreed with the proposal, the very republicans that proposed the bill, voted against it
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Ibime(m): 11:49pm On Feb 03, 2010
pres-elect:

have u not heard that republicans sponsored a bill in the senate to monitor the deficit through a bipartisan committee, as soon as Obama agreed with the proposal, the very republicans that proposed the bill, voted against it

Dont mind them. . . they keep hammering at this deficit thing knowing it was inevitable that huge expenditure was required to turn the economy around. . . as it is many economists are claiming that the effects of both stimulus bills (TARP and Keynesian) will fade away very soon, and that more stimulus is needed to sustain growth. . .
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by 4Play(m): 10:09pm On Feb 04, 2010
David is still engaged in this hare brained GOP are racist rubbish. Why do Republicans hate Obama? Because he is a Democrat, if you don't know that, you need lessons in history. When Clinton was in power, he was hated with a passion by Republicans who tried to impeach him on the flimsiest excuse.

It's the partisan divide. Has anyone forgotten Bush Derangement Syndrome amongst Democrats? An example here:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance.

I thought Obamania ended last year.
Dont mind them. . . they keep hammering at this deficit thing knowing it was inevitable that huge expenditure was required to turn the economy around. . . as it is many economists are claiming that the effects of both stimulus bills (TARP and Keynesian) will fade away very soon, and that more stimulus is needed to sustain growth. . .

Totally out of your depth. All this drivel you are talking doesn't hide the fact that running major deficits will cause significant long term harm to the economy. Did you see how the market reacted today to news about sovereign debt risk? Keynes baloney.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Ibime(m): 1:56am On Feb 05, 2010
4 Play:

Totally out of your depth. All this drivel you are talking doesn't hide the fact that running major deficits will cause significant long term harm to the economy. Did you see how the market reacted today to news about sovereign debt risk? Keynes baloney.

Negro please. . . stop regurgitating bullshit you've been reading on your right-wing blogs. . . the nauseating mantra to "cut the debt" by right-wingers right in the middle of a recession is somewhat irritating. . . . .

First of all, Obama and Bush share the TARP fund expenditure due to overlapping budgets, so it would seem your only gripe with Obama is the stimulus (which the Congressionary Budget Office actually support). . . seeing as you support universal healthcare, can you pinpoint one significant expenditure increase which you disagree about except the stimulus?

Keeping in mind that the costs of funding the war under George Bush was extra-budgetary, I will like you to subtract spending on the war and economic recovery from Obamas budget and present us the figures, lets see if there is any 'real' jump in spending under Obama. This boils our argument down to a simple argument over your opposition to the economic stimulus, which as I have said is a matter of your opinion. . . .as juxtaposed against the opinion of several experts and all the other nations who also implemented stimuli.


History shows that Republicans have been increasing the deficit disproportionately to their predecessors since 1980 (Reagan, Bush I and Bush II), so trust when I say that the Republicans are of no moral standing to talk about deficits. . . . and with the exception of Reagan, all the Republicans listed above ran up monumental deficits even in the good times!

These hulabaloo is nothing but a time-tested political tool to whip up sentiment. . . go and read this critique of Reagans soaring deficits from 1982. . . .http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa013.html
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 2:08am On Feb 05, 2010
lol i found this thread again . . .

4 Play:

David is still engaged in this hare brained GOP are racist rubbish. Why do Republicans hate Obama? Because he is a Democrat, if you don't know that, you need lessons in history. When Clinton was in power, he was hated with a passion by Republicans who tried to impeach him on the flimsiest excuse.

If you think the level of hatred for Obama is similar to that for Clinton then you truly need to stay in the UK and focus on Brown.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 3:01am On Feb 05, 2010
@topic,

1. Harry Reid declares that he is more comfortable with a light-skinned Negro without Negro accent compared to the dark-skinned ones with accent.

2. Bill Clinton declared that Obama being black would have only been priviledged to serve Whiteys like him coffee a few years ago.

3. Chris Matthews said he forgot Obama was black for an hour.

Common thread in these statements? They are all racist and spoken by Democrats. Only Davidylan will excuse and overlook these statements while stretching some irrelevant data to force-fit his predisposition that Republicans are racists.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 3:03am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@topic,

1. Harry Reid declares that he is more comfortable with a light-skinned Negro without Negro accent compared to the dark-skinned ones with accent.

2. Bill Clinton declared that Obama being black would have only been priviledged to serve Whiteys like him coffee a few years ago.

3. Chris Matthews said he forgot Obama was black for an hour.

Common thread in these statements? They are all racist and spoken by Democrats. Only Davidylan will excuse and overlook these statements while stretching some irrelevant data to force-fit his predisposition that Republicans are racists.

Never overlooked them for a second . . . the elephant in the room that you dont wish to see is that all the above 3 are working hard for this administration regardless of the color of Obama's skin. the repukes on the other hand?
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 3:33am On Feb 05, 2010
@Davidylan,

Never overlooked them for a second . . . the elephant in the room that you dont wish to see is that all the above 3 are working hard for this administration regardless of the color of Obama's skin. the repukes on the other hand?
Perhaps their agenda is all that keeps them working for a person they consider inferior to them through race. Does that excuse their racism? And has it ever crossed your mind also that those who oppose Obama may have done that because of a conflict of agenda irrespective of race? Do you think they would have opposed Clinton (Hillary or Bill) any less if they suspect them of such radical agenda as Obama?

You opened a thread to accuse Republicans of racism based on very inconclusive data and yet overlook something so glaring because it does not agree with your politics? Common, you can do better.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 3:38am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@Davidylan,
Perhaps their agenda is all that keeps them working for a person they consider inferior to them through race. Does that excuse their racism? And has it ever crossed your mind also that those who oppose Obama may have done that because of a conflict of agenda irrespective of race? Do you think they would have opposed Clinton (Hillary or Bill) any less if they suspect them of such radical agenda as Obama?

You opened a thread to accuse Republicans of racism based on very inconclusive data and yet overlook something so glaring because it does not agree with your politics? Common, you can do better.

you know . . . the funny thing is i keep asking you repukes for this "conflict of agenda" and all we get are spurious lies and nauseating hypocrisy. When you can accurately tell me what this "conflicts" are then maybe i'll change my mind.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 3:52am On Feb 05, 2010
@Davidylan,

you know . . . the funny thing is i keep asking you repukes for this "conflict of agenda" and all we get are spurious lies and nauseating hypocrisy. When you can accurately tell me what this "conflicts" are then maybe i'll change my mind.
What's the point when you have already made up your mind. The mere fact that Obama is a Democrat suggest huge ideological differences to Republicans. And since you Libs took opposition to such bitter and extremely shameful levels during Bush, it is only fitting that the Republicans return the favour in Obama.

If however you want more proof that this is about policy, take a look at Massachussetts and Senator Brown. Independents that voted overwhelmingly for Obama opposed him at the Ballot in MA. Are these people racists too? Did they they vote agaisnt Obama's pigmentation or his Govt run healthcare proposal?
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 4:11am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@Davidylan,
What's the point when you have already made up your mind. The mere fact that Obama is a Democrat suggest huge ideological differences to Republicans. And since you Libs took opposition to such bitter and extremely shameful levels during Bush, it is only fitting that the Republicans return the favour in Obama.

If however you want more proof that this is about policy, take a look at Massachussetts and Senator Brown. Independents that voted overwhelmingly for Obama opposed him at the Ballot in MA. Are these people racists too? Did they they vote agaisnt Obama's pigmentation or his Govt run healthcare proposal?

Where are the "ideological differences"? Obama has tried to govern to the center.

Do those "ideological differences" include hypocrisy for example?
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 4:15am On Feb 05, 2010
@Davidylan,

Where are the "ideological differences"? Obama has tried to govern to the center.

Do those "ideological differences" include hypocrisy for example?
This yourstance about Obama bothers on delusion.  Obama governing to the center?  Can you tell me one thing he did that reflects this?  Even while in the Senate, he was consistently regarded as the 2nd most liberal Senator in the 100-member strong body?  Stop deceiving yourself.

Why do you ignore the Independents in MA in your response?  Are these also hypofcrites or racists?
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 4:20am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@Davidylan,
This yourstance about Obama bothers on delusion.  Obama governing to the center?  Can you tell me one thing he did that reflects this?  Even while in the Senate, he was consistently regarded as the 2nd most liberal Senator in the 100-member strong body?  Stop deceiving yourself.

Why do you ignore the Independents in MA in your response?  Are these also hypofcrites or racists?

this is absolute rubbish. No one is "deluded" about Obama, infact he has disappointed me in trying too hard to placate repukes thus putting his own agenda on the ropes.

Take the war in Afghanistan . . . left to Dems and those on the left, America shld be back home ASAP.

I do not ignore the independents in MA . . . i see that election less a reflection of Obama than it is a reflection of America's problems dealing with its own hypocrisy.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 4:33am On Feb 05, 2010
@Davidylan,

this is absolute rubbish. No one is "deluded" about Obama, infact he has disappointed me in trying too hard to placate repukes thus putting his own agenda on the ropes
You are deluded I'm telling you! Since the first bailout vote, Obama has been going it alone without any Republican vote in both the House and the Senate. He planned to go it alone with the Healcare Bill, he just raised the debt ceiling without any Republican backing. If anybody was cventer, it was Bush. Obama has been far-left.

Take the war in Afghanistan . . . left to Dems and those on the left, America shld be back home ASAP.
That is a lie. Dems consistently declared Afghanistan a war of necessity priore to th eection. It was Iraw they called Bush's war. Why the revision of history now?

I do not ignore the independents in MA . . . i see that election less a reflection of Obama than it is a reflection of America's problems dealing with its own hypocrisy.
Not a reflection on Obama? Yet Brown ran not against Coakley, but against Obama. He ran declaring that he will be the 41st vote agaisnt Obamacare. I have said you need to wake up from this self-imposed delusion.

In your world, Republicans who oppose Obama are racist while Independents who do are hypocrites. Talk about an Obamabot!
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 4:40am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@Davidylan,
You are deluded I'm telling you! Since the first bailout vote, Obama has been going it alone without any Republican vote in both the House and the Senate. He planned to go it alone with the Healcare Bill, he just raised the debt ceiling without any Republican backing. If anybody was cventer, it was Bush. Obama has been far-left.

What absolute baloney. Obama has been going it alone probably because the right wont even bother to meet him halfway. they threw away the health care bill struggling to get the votes of Susan Collins and the old hag Olympia Snowe. Guess what the other repukes told Obama when he came out with the health care bill? STUFF IT!

Where is the repuklican plan? undecided

Tayo-D:

That is a lie. Dems consistently declared Afghanistan a war of necessity priore to th eection. It was Iraw they called Bush's war. Why the revision of history now?

Obama campaigned on that too but the house dems want that war over. You know what it took for Obama to send 30000 new troops there? Go read and stop watching Hannity my friend.

Tayo-D:

Not a reflection on Obama? Yet Brown ran not against Coakley, but against Obama. He ran declaring that he will be the 41st vote agaisnt Obamacare. I have said you need to wake up from this self-imposed delusion.

In your world, Republicans who oppose Obama are racist while Independents who do are hypocrites. Talk about an Obamabot!

which is all he needed to run on . . . America isnt color blind and we know it. Get yourself a reality check.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 4:46am On Feb 05, 2010
Ah the repuklican party . . .

werent they for repealing DADT when the military commanders decide its time to? grin

werent they for budget freezes until Obama decided to? Now its not enough? grin

God knows what those fraudulent old bags want really.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 5:01am On Feb 05, 2010
@David,

What absolute baloney. Obama has been going it alone probably because the right wont even bother to meet him halfway. they threw away the health care bill struggling to get the votes of Susan Collins and the old hag Olympia Snowe. Guess what the other repukes told Obama when he came out with the health care bill? STUFF IT
And you do not think the opposiition was because of the content of the bill?  Why did Snowe vote for the bill to go to debate but now regrets ever giving the Dems such leverage when they are obviously just trying to use her?  Even Obama is out now saying the Republican's fears about govt take over was true.  have you heard that?

Where is the repuklican plan?
This is a very stupid question. You've been asking this for a long time.  There were at least 3 different bills pushed forward by Republicans that were summarily dismissed by Obama and co.  Besides, all that was needed was for them to be allowed in writing the bill.  That was not the case.

Obama campaigned on that too but the house dems want that war over. You  know what it took for Obama to send 30000 new troops there? Go read and stop watching Hannity my friend.
It was not just Obama's campaign.  That was the DNC's position.  Here's an article with Nancy Pee-losi (the House's leader) and Schumer (the De Facto Senate leader) supporting the troop surge and even more in Afghanistan.  http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=33419.  Your denial beggars belief.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 5:04am On Feb 05, 2010
@David,

which is all he needed to run on . . . America isnt color blind and we know it. Get yourself a reality check.
You mean Democrats are not colour-blind? Ask Chris Matthews and co.

So were the Independents color blind during the Presidntial election but are now racist in just about 1 year? You are deluded!
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 5:09am On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@David,
And you do not think the opposiition was because of the content of the bill?  Why did Snowe vote for the bill to go to debate but now regrets ever giving the Dems such leverage when they are obviously just trying to use her?  Even Obama is out now saying the Republican's fears about govt take over was true.  have you heard that?

This is why i think a lot of you really cant think. Where did he say this nonsense? And what really is a "government take over"? How is this going to happen?

Snowe voted for a bill that had a public exchange . . . when that was taken out she suddenly decided to vote against it when all along her problem was with the public option?

Puhlease dont make me gag.

Tayo-D:

This is a very silly question. You've been asking this for a long time.  There were at least 3 different bills pushed forward by Republicans that were summarily dismissed by Obama and co.  Besides, all that was needed was for them to be allowed in writing the bill.  That was not the case.

What bills? Dont be silly pls.

Show us these bills.

Tayo-D:

It was not just Obama's campaign.  That was the DNC's position.  Here's an article with Nancy Pee-losi (the House's leader) and Schumer (the De Facto Senate leader) supporting the troop surge and even more in Afghanistan.  http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=33419.  Your denial beggars belief.

i give you that, its too late for me to argue that with you.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 5:14am On Feb 05, 2010
@David,

I'm tired of debating as well.  Here's a link with Obama's admission.  Hopefully, you will start to pull the wool in your eyes.

The last thing I will say, though -- let me say this about health care and the health care debate, because I think it also bears on a whole lot of other issues. If you look at the package that we've presented -- and there's some stray cats and dogs that got in there that we were eliminating, we were in the process of eliminating. For example, we said from the start that it was going to be important for us to be consistent in saying to people if you can have your -- if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge. http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/01/29/obamas-stunning-admission/
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by montelik(m): 10:31am On Feb 05, 2010
What does race have to do with opposing some ones policies or politics. When republicans and the public opposed the effort by the Clintons to make big changes to health care system in '93 was racism at play then. But now that the same thing is happening with a black president it is racism. When Democrats turned on Bush after the failures in Iraq, was it racism. But now that Republicans are hitting Obama hard on perceived failures it is racist. Come on, politics is sometimes a petty and destructive exercise. For any claims of racism to substantiated one needs real evidence, not supposition and innuendo. Republicans were just as hard on Clinton who was as white as they come. By such silly standards Democratic criticisms of former Secretary of State Condolezza Rice must no doubt have been rooted in racism as well, not to mention criticisms on the likes of Gonzalez, John Yoo, Clarence Thomas and co.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by JeSoul(f): 3:33pm On Feb 05, 2010
montelik:

What does race have to do with opposing some ones policies or politics. When republicans and the public opposed the effort by the Clintons to make big changes to health care system in '93 was racism at play then. But now that the same thing is happening with a black president it is racism. When Democrats turned on Bush after the failures in Iraq, was it racism. But now that Republicans are hitting Obama hard on perceived failures it is racist. Come on, politics is sometimes a petty and destructive exercise. For any claims of racism to substantiated one needs real evidence, not supposition and innuendo. Republicans were just as hard on Clinton who was as white as they come. By such silly standards Democratic criticisms of former Secretary of State Condolezza Rice must no doubt have been rooted in racism as well, not to mention criticisms on the likes of Gonzalez, John Yoo, Clarence Thomas and co.
Gbam left, right and center. Sometimes one just has to wonder about the "high" quality of the kool-aid obamabots are drinking to be subscribing to these kinds of ridiculous positions.

Tayo-D:
Why do you ignore the Independents in MA in your response?  Are these also hypofcrites or racists?
Tayo yes oh! I voted for Brown so therefore I must be a racist. If that is the new definition of racism then I am very guilty.

4 Play:

David is still engaged in this hare brained GOP are racist rubbish. Why do Republicans hate Obama? Because he is a Democrat, if you don't know that, you need lessons in history.
Simple as ABC.

I thought Obamania ended last year.
  grin you thot wrong brotha  grin
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 10:55pm On Feb 05, 2010
Tayo-D:

@David,

I'm tired of debating as well.  Here's a link with Obama's admission.  Hopefully, you will start to pull the wool in your eyes.

The last thing I will say, though -- let me say this about health care and the health care debate, because I think it also bears on a whole lot of other issues. If you look at the package that we've presented -- and there's some stray cats and dogs that got in there that we were eliminating, we were in the process of eliminating. For example, we said from the start that it was going to be important for us to be consistent in saying to people if you can have your -- if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge. http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/01/29/obamas-stunning-admission/

the stupidity in a lot of this right wing chatter is simple - congress writes the bills not the president.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 11:12pm On Feb 05, 2010
@David,

the stupidity in a lot of this right wing chatter is simple - congress writes the bills not the president.
The stupidity is in condemning the Republicans for opposing what Obama has now admitted was a fraud on the part of the Democratic House and Senate in conjunction with the leader of the Democratic Party - President Barack Obama.

The Republicans are racist for pointing out what Obama has now admitted to be the truth? 

If you look at the package that we've presented
Did you notice that Obama used the word "we" and not the Congress which you are now trying to shift the blames to? I'm telling you, only Obama can wake you up from this self-inflicted delusion!
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 12:00am On Feb 06, 2010
Tayo-D:

@David,
The stupidity is in condemning the Republicans for opposing what Obama has now admitted was a fraud on the part of the Democratic House and Senate in conjunction with the leader of the Democratic Party - President Barack Obama.

The Republicans are racist for pointing out what Obama has now admitted to be the truth? 
Did you notice that Obama used the word "we" and not the Congress which you are now trying to shift the blames to? I'm telling you, only Obama can wake you up from this self-inflicted delusion! 

Obama was hinting on the same frivolous, irresponsible and completely false use of language the other day. Oh well . . .  lipsrsealed

By the way . . . the repukes werent pointing out anything, its funny how the rightwing blogosphere has completely taken a single line out of context to support a non-existent claim. We've asked that you folks show us EXACTLY what phrase it is that denies you access to your doctor.

I'm still waiting, its been over 6 months. undecided
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 1:21am On Feb 06, 2010
@David,

Taken a single line out of context? Could you please tell us what Obama was talking about? Mind you, there was a pretecxxt to that statement!
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 1:37am On Feb 06, 2010
Tayo-D:

@David,

Taken a single line out of context? Could you please tell us what Obama was talking about? Mind you, there was a pretecxxt to that statement!

you've been bleating about "what Obama has now admitted was a fraud" in the health care bill, can you EXPLICITLY show us where you found it in the bill or are you just (like all other low information repukes out there) regurgitating right wing talking points?
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by TayoD1(m): 2:03am On Feb 06, 2010
@Davidylan,

you've been bleating about "what Obama has now admitted was a fraud" in the health care bill, can you EXPLICITLY show us where you found it in the bill or are you just (like all other low information repukes out there) regurgitating right wing talking points?
Do you think your Socialist friends are dumb enough to just write in the bill that the govt will take over your healthcare?  The bill was written such that it will crowd out the private healthcare providers in the end.  That achieves Obama's objectives that he said some time ago that his intention was not to get rid of other healthcare providers immediately but to do it in a matter of a few years.  The bill was of course written to achieve that purpose.

Obama himself admitted this much to be true and you are here asking me to refer you to pages in the bill.  If you can't even interprete what Obama just said on face value, what is the point of trying to prove anything else to you.

In the mean time, you might want to listen to Obama and his cohorts here again about the single payer system and how their plan will eventually eliminate other healthcare providers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

Now combine that with Obama saying that: "if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge"  If these are not evidence enough to convince you then onlyObama's apparition can convince you.  Given his enormous powers, I do not doubnt this is possible.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 2:05am On Feb 06, 2010
Tayo-D:

@Davidylan,
[size=14pt]Do you think your Socialist friends are dumb enough to just write in the bill that the govt will take over your healthcare?[/size]  The bill was written such that it will crowd out the private healthcare providers in the end.  That achieves Obama's objectives that he said some time ago that his intention was not to get rid of other healthcare providers immediately but to do it in a matter of a few years.  The bill was of course written to achieve that purpose.

Obama himself admitted this much to be true and you are here asking me to refer you to pages in the bill.  If you can't even interprete what Obama just said on face value, what is the point of trying to prove anything else to you.

In the mean time, you might want to listen to Obama and his cohorts here again about the single payer system and how their plan will eventually eliminate other healthcare providers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

Now combine that with Obama saying that: "if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you're not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge"  If these are not evidence enough to convince you then onlyObama's apparition can convince you.  Given his enormous powers, I do not doubnt this is possible.

no they are not that silly but i presume you repukes are smart enough to be able to tell us where exactly it is insinuated. I am quite disgusted with the thoughtless regurgitation of rightwing smear campaigns. Half the time 99% of you people dont even have any idea what you are opposing!

Take a look at your own post . . . now imagine how that holds up in a hypothetical court of law. You're hanging on to misquoted words from Obama's text that YOU MISSED BY THE WAY AND ONLY JUST COPIED OFF RIGHT WING BLOGS to prove a point?

Dude show me where it is written in the bill . . . or you've never read the bill? You're just going along with everyone else taking your talking points from Faux noos? Shame.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Nobody: 2:13am On Feb 06, 2010
Tayo-D:

In the mean time, you might want to listen to Obama and his cohorts here again about the single payer system and how their plan will eventually eliminate other healthcare providers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

What nonsense . . . combining Obama's quotes from 2003 to justify a misquote in 2010? Dude maybe you need to read a book or drink water.

Do you folks even believe your own drivel? Besides are the private health care companies really good for America? I dont blame you, its because you're middle class. Just pray you dont ever run into a medical crisis . . . your disdain for single payer health care might come back to bite you hypocrites in the butt.

France has single payer health care . . . it has been the NO. 1 nation for health care indices for so many yrs. Keep drinking your cool aid.
Re: Republican Racism In Disguise by Ibime(m): 5:47am On Feb 06, 2010
Tayo-D:

In the mean time, you might want to listen to Obama and his cohorts here again about the single payer system and how their plan will eventually eliminate other healthcare providers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk


Permit me to express my disdain for your idiocy. . .whilst other Republicans on here such as Je Soul and 4Play exhibit a wide range of intellectual capability, yourself and Kobojunkie sound like intellectually lilliputian members of a low class of trailer park trash. . . your base thinking classifies you as a grade-one idiot. . .


Anyway, back to the quoted. . . if you think one of Obama's aims for the public option is not to put pressure on the private option, then allow me to say that you are slow as your profile picture suggests. . . . quote me when I say that Obama is actively seeking to check the cartellish behaviour of private health providers with this public option. . . it is definitely intended to force the cream-skimmers to provide their services at more reasonable rates. . . as soon as you have cartel and price-fixing behaviour in any industry, the tenets of competition and capitalism are defeated. . . . yeah in UK, we do have a single payer system, but we also have private health insurance here. . . and damn right, its very very cheap. . . thanks to the presence of the public option


. . . and that is all Mr Obama is trying to say in your video, but of course, you are too dumb to understand lexicon which is outside the range of what your brand of Limbaugh-Republicanism has programmed you to.

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