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New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by discoveries(m): 10:22am On Jul 29, 2017
The Bible suggests the Canaanites were wiped out by the ancient Israelites, at least that's what the O.T. Book of Deuteronomy tells us.


However, a new genetic study shows that 90 percent of Lebanese are descended from the survivors of the slaughter.


Researchers from the UK's Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute sequenced the genomes of five 4,000-year-old Canaanites, as well as 99 people now residing in Lebanon and have provided convincing evidence that the Biblical account of the annihilation of the ancient Canaanite people at the hands of the invading Israelite hordes may have been an exaggeration.


The research, published on July 27, 2017, in the American Journal of Human Genetics, shows that 93 percent of the ancestry of modern-day Lebanese comes from the ancient Canaanites.


Study co-author Chris Tyler-Smith calls that percentage "quite surprising," given the "enormously complex history of this region," reports ScienceDaily.

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by discoveries(m): 10:26am On Jul 29, 2017
Image: The map shows the location of the newly sequenced Bronze Age Sidon samples (pink triangle labeled with red text), as well as the locations of published ancient samples used as comparative data in this study.
American Journal of Human Genetics.

Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by discoveries(m): 10:29am On Jul 29, 2017
The Book of Deuteronomy

The Book of Deuteronomy 20:16-18 New International Version (NIV) says: "16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God."


However, if the Israelites had slaughtered every single Canaanite, it would have been a form of patricide.

Patricide is defined as the killing of one's father by a son or daughter.

So why would the killing of the Canaanites have been patricide?

According to the study, the Canaanites were the common ancestor for several ancient peoples who inhabited the Levant during the Bronze Age, including the Ammonites, Moabites, and Israelites.

Image: Rounded altar in canaanite temple in megiddo. Image taken August 5, 2008.
avishai teicher

Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by discoveries(m): 10:32am On Jul 29, 2017
The Levant is a historical geographical term referring to a large area in the Eastern Mediterranean.

The Levant has been described as the "crossroads of western Asia, the eastern Mediterranean, and northeast Africa," and the "northwest of the Arabian plate," according to National Geographic Magazine.


There are very few surviving texts available that tell us about the Canaanites relationships to other cultures in that period, so the research has been an important key to unlocking the genetic commonalities that we didn't know existed.

We do know that the Canaanites lived in a part of the world now known as Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan.


The culture they created made them very influential in the Middle East and beyond, and it was the Canaanites who created the first alphabet and established colonies throughout the Mediterranean region.

“Each achieved their own cultural identities but all shared a common genetic and ethnic root with Canaanites,” according to the authors of the study.

Image: The man buying watermelon from a roadside stand in Lebanon can trace his ancestry back to the ancient Canaanites.
Eternalsleeper.

Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 10:33am On Jul 29, 2017
Wonderful discovery.

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by discoveries(m): 10:34am On Jul 29, 2017
The facts tell us a different story

The findings do not support the Bible's suggestion that the Canaanites were utterly destroyed.

The researchers write that genomic sequencing instead, shows that Lebanese derive most of their ancestry from a Canaanite-related population and there has been a substantial genetic continuity in the region since at least the Bronze Age.


The conclusion of the new study is also supported by archaeological evidence.

As an example, coastal cities such as Sidon and Tyre “show the continuity of occupation until the present day.”

The researchers conclude that "In the future, it will be important to examine samples from the Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age Near East to understand the events leading to admixture between local populations and the eastern migrants."


http://m.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/science/new-study-shows-ancient-israelites-didn-t-wipe-out-the-canaanites/article/498694

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by Richirich713: 3:25pm On Jul 29, 2017
Bible already told me they weren't completely wiped out:

"The Israelites, when they were led to the Promised Land, were commanded utterly to destroy the descendants of Canaan then possessing it ( Exodus 23:23 ; Numbers 33:52 , 53; Deuteronomy 20:16 , 17). This was to be done "by little and little," lest the beasts of the field should increase (Exodus 23:29 ; Deuteronomy 7:22 , 23). The history of these wars of conquest is given in the Book of Joshua. The extermination of these tribes, however, was never fully carried out. Jerusalem was not taken till the time of David (2 Samuel 5:6 , 7). In the days of Solomon bond-service was exacted from the fragments of the tribes still remaining in the land (1 Kings 9:20 , 21). Even after the return from captivity survivors of five of the Canaanitish tribes were still found in the land."

http://biblehub.com/topical/c/canaanites.htm

Study actually confirms the Bible. grin

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by Wilgrea7(m): 5:56am On Jul 30, 2017
interesting... fundamentalists won't like this tho

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by afemgbosey(m): 8:08am On Aug 02, 2017
God commanded the isralites to completely destroy them, however they didn't. Example are the gibeonites who acted shrewdly to escape anhillation via a convenant......
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by Prinzecharlez(m): 8:28am On Aug 02, 2017
Nice one
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by DoctorAlien(m): 3:23am On Aug 03, 2017
4kings,

Isn't it shameful that the OP started with a lie? How come the OP could say that the Bible "suggests" that the Canaanites were completely wiped out when, in fact, Joshua 17:12-13 and Judges 1:27-33 plainly record the failure of the Israelites to utterly destroy the Canaanites?

And isn't it cool that the study actually confirms what the Bible is saying?

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 3:36am On Aug 03, 2017
DoctorAlien:
4kings,

Isn't it shameful that the OP started with a lie? How come the OP could say that the Bible "suggests" that the Canaanites were completely wiped out when, in fact, Joshua 17:12-13 and Judges 1:27-33 plainly record the failure of the Israelites to utterly destroy the Canaanites?

And isn't it cool that the study actually confirms what the Bible is saying?

Its obvious these folks dont know the Bible
They thought they found something new to hang on to

Own Goal for them

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by DoctorAlien(m): 4:17am On Aug 03, 2017
felixomor:

Its obvious these folks dont know the Bible They thought they found something new to hang on to
Own Goal for them

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 4:55pm On Aug 03, 2017
Welldone Richirich713 and DoctorAlien. cool
Felixomor go siddon jare tongue
Thinking of it now, Jezebel was actually a Canaanite (oops).

See why the Bible is very messed up:
According to Joshua 10:40 : So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded.
A further confirmation of this was given in Joshua 11:15: As the Lord commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the Lord commanded Moses.

More to this, the book of Genesis, Deuteronomy, until Joshua was written years not far apart from each other by maybe Moses, Joshua or whoever(same group of guys).
But Judges was written by Samuel(or whoever) centuries later.

I seriously don't want another argument but every sane person can see the ''mess up'' here. Should we call this a mistake in Joshua and Moses' part or a lie, you choose. grin
Can't believe i just noticed that now, as usual the bible never stops giving. grin grin


Abeg i no wan argue unnecessary, if u wan quote, quote reasonably. grin

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by rhektor(m): 12:18am On Aug 04, 2017
4kings:
Welldone Richirich713 and DoctorAlien. cool
Felixomor go siddon jare tongue
Thinking of it now, Jezebel was actually a Canaanite (oops).

See why the Bible is very messed up:
According to Joshua 10:40 : So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded.
A further confirmation of this was given in Joshua 11:15: As the Lord commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the Lord commanded Moses.

More to this, the book of Genesis, Deuteronomy, until Joshua was written years not far apart from each other by maybe Moses, Joshua or whoever(same group of guys).
But Judges was written by Samuel(or whoever) centuries later.

I seriously don't want another argument but every sane person can see the ''mess up'' here. Should we call this a mistake in Joshua and Moses' part or a lie, you choose. grin
Can't believe i just noticed that now, as usual the bible never stops giving. grin grin


Abeg i no wan argue unnecessary, if u wan quote, quote reasonably. grin


Your mind is actually messed up dude
Did you chose those verses and ignore verses like this one

Joshua 13:1


Now Joshua was old and advanced in years when the LORD said to him, "You are old and advanced in years, and very much of the land remains to be possessed.

As if nothing remained? Keep deluding yourself.
Both you and the OP are deceiving yourselves
The fact that they were commanded to wipe out does not mean they were actually wiped out. Maybe you don't know that this research is only confirming biblical stories

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 4:53am On Aug 04, 2017
4kings:
Welldone Richirich713 and DoctorAlien. cool
Felixomor go siddon jare tongue
Thinking of it now, Jezebel was actually a Canaanite (oops).

See why the Bible is very messed up:
According to Joshua 10:40 : So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded.
A further confirmation of this was given in Joshua 11:15: As the Lord commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the Lord commanded Moses.

More to this, the book of Genesis, Deuteronomy, until Joshua was written years not far apart from each other by maybe Moses, Joshua or whoever(same group of guys).
But Judges was written by Samuel(or whoever) centuries later.

I seriously don't want another argument but every sane person can see the ''mess up'' here. Should we call this a mistake in Joshua and Moses' part or a lie, you choose. grin
Can't believe i just noticed that now, as usual the bible never stops giving. grin grin


Abeg i no wan argue unnecessary, if u wan quote, quote reasonably. grin

Hehehe,
Someone is trying to cover his tracks
Lmao grin

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 11:52am On Aug 07, 2017
rhektor:



Your mind is actually messed up dude
Did you chose those verses and ignore verses like this one

Joshua 13:1


Now Joshua was old and advanced in years when the LORD said to him, "You are old and advanced in years, and very much of the land remains to be possessed.

As if nothing remained? Keep deluding yourself.
Both you and the OP are deceiving yourselves
The fact that they were commanded to wipe out does not mean they were actually wiped out. Maybe you don't know that this research is only confirming biblical stories
Wtf are you saying?
Does this indicate in any manner which land remained?

The portion of land allotted to Israelite was first written in Genesis 15:8, more details is shown in Joshua 1:4. Digest those scriptures first.
After reading the scriptures it would be obvious that lands remained to be conquered, but how does this affect what i posted?
Couldn't it have been lebanon or somewhere else?

For goodness sake the instruction to take out the cannanite, was implemented in Joshua 10 the popular chapter where Joshua told the sun to stand still so he can win the battle(every body that attended sunday school regularly knows this tongue).

The land the israelite were supposed to take according to the verses above and the bible were to extend to Lebanon, euphrates river, jordan, even to syria, saudi arabia and iraq.
So the scripture you posted does not in any way disprove my point.
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 11:53am On Aug 07, 2017
felixomor:


Hehehe,
Someone is trying to cover his tracks
Lmao grin
Cover wetin?
You better go and ask Yahweh some questions.
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 11:56am On Aug 07, 2017
4kings:

Cover wetin?
You better go and ask Yahweh some questions.

Still pained at the own goal grin

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 12:02pm On Aug 07, 2017
felixomor:


Still pained at the own goal grin
Instead of addressing the point, you don start as usual abi? angry tongue
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 12:32pm On Aug 07, 2017
4kings:

Instead of addressing the point, you don start as usual abi? angry tongue


I have already addressed the issue na.
The post only confirms the bible
Several verses clearly show that.

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by rhektor(m): 8:52am On Aug 08, 2017
4kings:

Wtf are you saying?
Does this indicate in any manner which land remained?

The portion of land allotted to Israelite was first written in Genesis 15:8, more details is shown in Joshua 1:4. Digest those scriptures first.
After reading the scriptures it would be obvious that lands remained to be conquered, but how does this affect what i posted?
Couldn't it have been lebanon or somewhere else?

For goodness sake the instruction to take out the cannanite, was implemented in Joshua 10 the popular chapter where Joshua told the sun to stand still so he can win the battle(every body that attended sunday school regularly knows this tongue).

The land the israelite were supposed to take according to the verses above and the bible were to extend to Lebanon, euphrates river, jordan, even to syria, saudi arabia and iraq.
So the scripture you posted does not in any way disprove my point.

It did, you are the one not getting the message. The instruction was to wipe them off, it was an instruction. Whenever you have an instruction to do anything does it really mean you've actually done that? I don't know what is really wrong with all these wannabe nairaland atheists, they would ignore all forms of reasoning and logic to argue truth.
It's really funny

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 11:52am On Aug 08, 2017
rhektor:


It did, you are the one not getting the message. The instruction was to wipe them off, it was an instruction. Whenever you have an instruction to do anything does it really mean you've actually done that? I don't know what is really wrong with all these wannabe nairaland atheists, they would ignore all forms of reasoning and logic to argue truth.
It's really funny
First of all i'm not an atheist. angry
Joshua 10 indicated that the instruction was fulfilled. This is simple sunday-school teaching for goodness sake
No other verse from Genesis to Joshua which was most likely written by the same group of people indicates otherwise.

The diversion only occured later in Judges and so on, written centuries after, that's my point, or maybe you can provide a verse from Genesis to Joshua that indicates otherwise.

Joshua 10 : 40 Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 11:53am On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


I have already addressed the issue na.
The post only confirms the bible
Several verses clearly show that.
Did you read my post?
Verses from where?
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 12:00pm On Aug 08, 2017
4kings:

Did you read my post?
Verses from where?

The scriptures are already listed above by others

Your assumption is based on what Joshua waz instructed to do.
Not what the Isrealites did eventually.
Its quite simple dear. cool

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 12:01pm On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


The scriptures are already listed above by others

Your assumption is based on what Joshua waz instructed to do.
Not what the Isrealites did eventually.
Its quite simple dear. cool
Explain this: Joshua 10 : 40 Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 12:02pm On Aug 08, 2017
4kings:

Explain this: Joshua 10 : 40 Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.

And what u just read,
Does it cover the whole of Canaan?

Simple answer please.

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 12:20pm On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


And what u just read,
Does it cover the whole of Canaan?

Simple answer please.
wow, this is getting interesting grin
you tell me...
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 12:57pm On Aug 08, 2017
4kings:

wow, this is getting interesting grin
you tell me...

Good, your dodge says it all

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 12:59pm On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:


Good, your dodge says it all
Says what all?
Ok, the story from Genesis to Joshua indicates that Canaan was wiped out.
Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by felixomor: 1:01pm On Aug 08, 2017
4kings:

Says what all?
Ok, the story from Genesis to Joshua indicates that Canaan was wiped out.
My simple question has made your attempt ambiguous..

Hehehehe, poor try....

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Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by 4kings: 1:04pm On Aug 08, 2017
felixomor:

My simple question has made your attempt ambiguous..

Hehehehe, poor try....
See this guy... grin
Didn't i answer your question?

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