Quran 4 verse 137 is very much clear . . ALLAH said they believed(were muslims), then they disbelieved(became kafir), ....... ALLAH shows it to us here also that a muslim can become a kafir and one can make takfir of them.. THOSE PEOPLE SHOUTING THAT THERE IS NO KAFIR AM0NG MUSLIMS NOR ONE CAN MAKE TAKFIR . . all these quran verses, they reject it.. there is no way you would submit to quran and hadith and you will go against it.. quran and hadith is where we w0uld take our proof and practises of islam. . . belp

And ALLAH make takfir of them because they disbelieve in ALLAH, rasul, holy books, angel, the last day (the pillars of faith) . . . and as you can see, ALLAH used "dolala" to show their misguidance. . and HE make takfir of them in the next verse (137)and explained the "dolala" in the later verse. .(136). . DOLALA HERE MEANS KUFRU BECAUSE IT INTERPRETATION IS GOING TO BE EXTRACTED FROM THE RUNNING VERSE(136) AGAINST ALL PILLAR OF FAITH JUST LIKE BIDA IS . . . NO INNOVATION IN THE MATTER OF ISLAM THAT IS NOT AGAINST THE PILLARS OF FAITH. .Dgc

Quran 98 verse 6 . .ALLAH makes tafir of christians, jews, idolators . . . . . when a muslim become a kafir. . he\she is the same as the christians, jews and idolators. . . . WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE IS THE JUDGEMENT OF ALLAH ON KAFIRS . . . . . . . . . . ALLAH SAID THEY(KAFIRS OR KUFAR OR DISBELIEVERS, MUNAFIQ) WILL ABIDE IN HELL FOREVERb

Quran 9 verse 65 -66. . . ALLAH SAID THEY WERE MUSLIMS AND THEY BECOME A KAFIR\KUFAR SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY MOCK\JEST OF AAYAH OF QURAN. . . . ALLAH make takfir of those muslim who became kufar.. and these verse also prove that there are kafir am0ng muslims

In the hadith. . rasul said, if one makes takfir of a muslim, then one is a kafir and if one makes takfir of a kafir, then so be it. . . THIS SHOWS THAT THERE ARE KAFIR AMONG MUSLIMS AND SO IS MAKING TAKFIR ON KAFIR IS A MUST.. AND WHOEVER CALLS A MUSLIM A KAFIR IS A KAFIR . . . . . very clear hadith and these firoqs intentionally misunderstood and mis interprete the hadith that "we musnt make takfir" . . . . . . . and in the latter hadith, its stated that rasul said that the "khawarij" will be out of the fold of islam just like "bow is out of arrow .. its very clear that they are kufar.. yet most firoq believes that they are muslims.. "rasul compared them"khawarij" to arrow and islam as bow" its very clear that they are kufar and they were muslims before. . . .db

NOTE: ALLAH gave us the conditions onto which one must fufil before making takfir of anybody. . 1. forgetfulness..if someone says,act,belief is kufru and such person does such due to forgetfulness.. there is no sin or n0r the pers0n is kafir.. for example; one postartes to greet due to forgetfulness, u wil see that such pers0n wil take to corrections as s0on as he\she is corrected. . . . . . . .2. forced . . forced in a way that one has no alternative but to subject but it must be in 0ne mind to reject the act. we live in nigeria in which shariah law is n0t being used . .and its a must for all muslims to live and be ruled with shariah. . but we live and is ruled with democracy. .a muslim must n0t accept democracy, we must hate it.. and the 3rd one is misunderstanding . . . when one misunderstood ... bu ar 7traq

NOTE: ALLAH gave us the conditions onto which one must fufil before making takfir of anybody. . 1. forgetfulness..if someone says,act,belief is kufru and such person does such due to forgetfulness.. there is no sin or n0r the pers0n is kafir.. for example; one postartes to greet due to forgetfulness, u wil see that such pers0n wil take to corrections as s0on as he\she is corrected. . . . . . . .2. forced . . forced in a way that one has no alternative but to subject but it must be in 0ne mind to reject the act. we live in nigeria in which shariah law is n0t being used . .and its a must for all muslims to live and be ruled with shariah. . but we live and is ruled with democracy. .a muslim must n0t accept democracy, we must hate it.. and the 3rd one is misunderstanding . . . when one misunderstood ... PROOF. QURAN 16:106 . . QURAN 33:5 . . . bu ar 7traq

NOTE: ALLAH gave us the conditions onto which one must fufil before making takfir of anybody. . 1. forgetfulness..if someone says,act,belief is kufru and such person does such due to forgetfulness.. there is no sin or n0r the pers0n is kafir.. for example; one postartes to greet due to forgetfulness, u wil see that such pers0n wil take to corrections as s0on as he\she is corrected. . . . . . . .2. forced . . forced in a way that one has no alternative but to subject but it must be in 0ne mind to reject the act. we live in nigeria in which shariah law is n0t being used . .and its a must for all muslims to live and be ruled with shariah. . but we live and is ruled with democracy. .a muslim must n0t accept democracy, we must hate it.. and the 3rd one is misunderstanding . . . when one misunderstood ... PROOF. QURAN 16:106 . . QURAN 33:5, QURAN 4:115 . . . bu ar 7traq

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