EdoNation:


See Finishing ooo

lx3as:


I even doubt it if KingOvoramwen1 is from Edo?

KingOvoramwen1:
[[s]quote author=Osaze007 post=59587417]I think this thread is brainless
naturally members of any tribe that borders another tribe will sound a bit like the neighbouring tribe
same thing with edo near ibos
ishekiri sounds like edo and yoruba
yorubas from jebba sound like nupe

this thread is brainless
No benin man has time to be living off glory that was over 6000 years ago
the same KingOvoramwen if truly a benin man wont be gloating over this thread as without the same yoruba you will be speaking ibo language today.

to the brainless biafran saying dialect
can the anambra man understand native imo dialect
yeye osu [/s]


This one miss road ooo....... Gerrout out of here Yoruba boy trying to disguise but I can smell you miles away!!

pazienza:
Just to point a few things.

Ifira And Ipesi first language is not Yoruboid, it's Edoid.

Odiani people have their Yoruboid language as first language, and then Enu ani( Igbo) as second language, it's only logical when they claim Yoruboid origin, no sensible Igbo will argue that.

Everything rooted in antiquity in Odi ani is Yoruboid.

In contrast, Akoko SE communities have Edoid languages as first language, only speak Yoruba as a second language. Everything rooted in antiquity in that part of Ondo is Edoid, right from words for things like King, Land, sky.

I don't need a soothsayer to know when someone is tampering with history for economic/political goals when I see one.

I say this not because I care about Edos, because they too play this same game with Igbo speaking, but Edo origin claiming Igbo towns.

scholes0:


[s]I have never heard of any kind of political clamor for inclusion in Edo from the people of ifira, Sosan Oke, Sosan Isale, Ishua or Ifira to be in Edo or to be anything Edo! They are proud to be Yorubas and are happy where they are. What I believe went over your head is that the fact that the language these people speak or spoke is classified as "Edoid" does not mean they see themselves as anything Edo-ish. Again you are forgetting the fact that there is no "Pan-Edo" ethnicity anywhere,

Go and worry about the current border clashes between Ette igalas/Idomas and Enugu state, the Olumbanasaa Igala communities in Anambra and their feelings of rejection, the Ebonyi non Igbos that came from Cross River and Benue, the Annang/Igbo clashes between Abia and Akwa Ibom and the Ukwuani/Isoko clashes instead of "chooking" your mouth into 100% peaceful border regions that are clearly mixing and enjoying the party of the advantage of their locations.

These are Palace dignitaries from Igarra, Edo state, tell me if they look like your Average Benin Palace setting of Today.




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KingOvoramwen1:



WTF is this one saying?......... Those pictures you posted are from an hamlet which are doubt are even up to 200 ppl we are talking ediod towns and cities this one dey bring up hamlets ..... Haha haha

KingOvoramwen1:


You are very dumb..... Igarra that the foolish wannabe Yoruba's there are not even up to 500 ppl .... Igarra a town populated by Afemias a bonafide Ediod group..... As a matter of fact the akoko at igarra are incosequetial and insignificant .... Infact they are not even 3rd or 4th fiddle to the Afemai....... They are just tolerated because they chose to remain in Bendel state and stay loyal to the Empire!!


So you better Shut Up!!!

scholes0:

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LOL.... see this one, he doesnt even have geographic knowledge of his state and he is arguing with me on Pan Akoko Identity. Shioor.
For your information Igarras are proud Ebira Etunos. That is why I keep saying this discussion is beyond your limited Benin knowledge scope.

Yes we know they are only Tolerated in Edo state and not actually wanted or embraced. They only reason why they are now in Bendel/Edo is that during the creation of the defunct bendel, their votes were all counted together with the one single Afemai region that includes various other people. same way the Itsekiris were counted in the entire Warri region that also comprised isokos, Urhobos and them)

Be rest assured that now they have their own local government, things are quite different from before when they were all lumped together under Afemai/Kukuruuku[/s].

KingOvoramwen1:



They voted to remain in Bendel unlike their back stabbing brothers in Ondo!!.... So quit the lies you look stupid

Nothing is different ......They Shut the fvck up and Obey or get dealt with by the Afemai which in turn report back to the Oba in Benin..

The Truth is Bitter...... Kiss it

KingOvoramwen1:
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scholes0:


[s]Otaru took a picture with the King of his designated state capital.... Clap for yourself... lol, what an achievement.
Even Sanusi of Lamido took a picture with Oba of Benin, so what?
Here is Lamido of Yola/Adamawa picture with Oba os Benin too



Where s the Enogie of Auchi? kikiki

Auchi: Learning from the only emirate in Southern Nigeria (II)
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/philosofaith/153he-only-emirate-in-southern-nigeria-i

It is on fact that the Otaru frolicks more with Northern Emirs and feels more comfortable among them than he does in your phantom Benin kingdom.

I pity your state of existence[/s].

How Emir Of Ilorin, Kwara Governor And Saraki Have Oppressed Oba Of Jebba Since 2003

He may be a monarch, but Alhaji Abdulkabir Alabi Adebara, the Oba of Jebba in Moro Local Government Area of Kwara State, is treated with contempt by the Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu-Gambari.
BY SAHARAREPORTERS, NEW YORKJUL 20, 2016

He may be a monarch, but Alhaji Abdulkabir Alabi Adebara, the Oba of Jebba in Moro Local Government Area of Kwara State, is treated with contempt by the Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu-Gambari.


The Emir, actively abetted by the state government of Governor Abdulfattah Ahmed and his godfather, Bukola Saraki, the Nigerian Senate President, has refused to recognise Adebara as the Oba of Jebba. And for 11 years, beginning from the time Saraki became governor, the state government did not pay Adebara his entitlements. The Emir continues to claim that Jebba is under the Ilorin Emirate despite a 1997 court ruling (in suit KWS/231/89) stating otherwise.

In October 2014, the Afenifere Renewal Group (ARG), a Yoruba socio-cultural group, drew attention to the ill-treatment of Adebara, notably marked by the state government's studious refusal to recognise him a third class traditional ruler even after two courts had affirmed his status.

“Six monarchs from Asa, Moro and Ilorin East Local Government Areas – Ohoro of Shao, Oba of Jebba, Alapado of Apado, Baale of Afon, Dado of Okeso, and Magaji Aare of Ilorin – submitted memoranda for the exercise, but none was deemed qualified even though they all met the criteria set out in the advertisement,” the organisation said.

At the Jebba Muslim praying ground on July 6, 2016, Oba Adebara was attacked after the Eid-el-Fitr prayers in a disturbance that resulted in the death of three persons and injuries to 12 others. The attack was reportedly sponsored by members of Okedare family, who want one of them to be Oba of the town. Among the Okedares, who are loyal to the state government and the Emir of Ilorin, are Matthew Okedare, Deputy Speaker of the Kwara State House of Assembly; Simon Okedare, Clerk of the Assembly; and Kayode Okedare, the Principal of Government Secondary School, Jebba.

Adebara's unfortunate situation persists despite the fact that suits filed by the state government in various courts against his claim to the Jebba stool have been decided in his favor.

Adebara became the Oba of Jebba in 2003 and was given a letter of appointment, which categorised him as a "Third Class" traditional ruler, by Governor Alhaji Mohammed Lawal (now late), whose tenure as governor was about ending and was later succeeded by Saraki.

Adebara's ordeal began a few months into Saraki's first term of office when the state government ordered that he should no longer be paid his entitlements because Jebba was yet to have a traditional ruler.

He was subsequently arrested and detained at Okekura Prison for 19 days on criminal charges. He was later released on bail.

Shortly after, the state government dragged Adebara before a Chief Magistrate's Court, alleging that he was parading himself illegally as Oba in violation of both the state and local government orders as well as well as giving evidence in a suit before a High Court as the traditional ruler of Jebba when he knew that his action contravened the "Chiefs Appointment Deposition Law and the Penal Code." Adebara, a retired civil servant, pleaded not guilty to the charges, affirming in his examination-in-chief that, "I am presently the Oba of Jebba and I became monarch since May 16th 2003, having succeeded the deceased Oba Ahmadu Adebara."

Adebara's counsel, Joseph Bamigboye, successfully contested the jurisdiction of the magistrate's court to entertain the matter, as it was criminal in nature.

The matter (Suit No. KWS/2c/2006, The State Vs Alhaji AbdulKadir) then moved to the state High Court, where, SaharaReporters learnt, two judges were forced to withdraw from the case on account of pressure from the Emir of Ilorin, supported by the state government.

Before the third judge, Justice Hannah Ajayi, the state counsel, Mrs. FB Ishola, called four witnesses, while Adebara called two. Ishola told the court that all the prosecution required was to prove that Adebara paraded himself as a monarch in violation of government order. She averred that Adebara kept on parading himself as such despite a letter from the Ministry of Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs, dated November 3, 2003, instructing him to stop doing so and revert to the status quo. She further submitted that Adebara failed to prove that he was appointed by kingmakers, saying the town had no kingmakers as claimed by the four prosecution witnesses.

Ishola maintained that Adebara's refusal to revert to the status quo made him criminally liable for advertising himself as what he is not. Ishola similarly argued that the prosecution had successfully established a case of an "illegal parade" as a monarch against Adebara and urged the court convict him as charged.

In Adebara's defence, his counsel submitted that the letter the Ministry of Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs claimed to have written was not addressed to any person or stool in particularly, arguing that its content was imprecise.

For the prosecution to show that the letter was addressed to Adebara, the counsel added, it must prove, among other things, that his appointment as Oba of Jebba in 2003 did not comply with the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963. He further submitted that no evidence had been tendered before the court showing the provision of the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963 that was breached by Adebara's traditional and governmental appointment. The counsel also told the court that the prosecution failed to adduce any evidence to suggest that Adebara did not take an oath of office upon his appointment as is required by law. Adebara's lawyer then proceeded to punch holes in the prosecution's claim that the Oba's appointment provoked huge protests in the town, arguing that the Jebba community, including 33 surrounding villages under it, expressed massive support for the appointment. "There was no challenge to the appointment of the accused within the ruling house and there was no acknowledged petition to the Governor over the appointment and that there was no lawsuit against the appointment," said Bamgboye.

The counsel further argued that government's appointment and grading under the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law were strictly for the government recognition of the appointment, adding that "the purported government withdrawal of appointment and grading will only withdraw the recognition under the referred law, but cannot withdraw the traditional appointment.

"Where an Oba is not appointed by the government and is not graded, he is still an Oba within the Interpretation Act once he is accepted by his people and the kingmakers.

"Even where his appointment by government and grading are subsequently withdrawn, he remains an Oba under the Interpretation Act, but not under the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law.

"In effect, the purported letter, including the two, which emanated from the local government, do not and cannot act as instruments of deposition. The Oba still remains an Oba by virtue of his traditional appointment and is competent to parade himself as such," Adebara's lawyer told the court.

In her judgment, delivered in January 2014, Justice Ajayi said there were contradictions in the testimonies of the four prosecution witnesses, while those given by defence witnesses were found to have been consistent.

The judge decided that the prosecution had failed to prove that Adebara's appointment in 2003 contravened the Chiefs Appointment and Deposition Law of 1963. She subsequently pronounced a no-guilty verdict on Adebara, subsequently discharging and acquitting him of the two-count criminal charge and affirming his status as the legitimate traditional ruler of Jebba with third class status.

The court also ordered the state government to pay all the arrears of Adebara's entitlements for 11 years, which it has failed to comply with.

Dissatisfied, the state government headed to the Federal Appeal, which upheld the judgment of the lower court.

On Monday July 18 2016, the Kwara State Governor announced the elevation of a number of chiefs to "First Class" traditional rulers, one of those elevated includes the Olupako of Share who is Oba of the Governor's hometown. The Olupako of Share and the Oba of Jebba were both recognised as Third Class in 1983. The Governor still won't recognize and accord Oba Adebare of Jebba his entitlements and court ordered status.

KingOvoramwen1:
How Emir Of Ilorin, Kwara Governor And Saraki Have Oppressed Oba Of Jebba Since 2003

scholes0:


WOOOOOW. Jebba deep in northern Kwara on very the banks of the Niger still maintains an Oba whereas Warrake in Owan can't even maintain their culture. lmao

Abu Mohamodu Oshimeh (Galadima 1) of Warrake Land in Owan East L.G.A of Edo State.



What is their excuse? smh
You no dey eve shame.

Kwara a whole Yoruba state sucking Fulani Divck since 1100AD

KingOvoramwen1:



Which Oba for jebba??

You nor read say Oba nor dey jebba

Kwara a whole Yoruba state sucking Fulani Divck since 1100AD

scholes0:


[s]lol this guy types like an Infant, Lmao.

I can post a link to the Oba of Jebba during Pan Oodua conference in Ibadan if you want to see it.
Now that I have shown how fragmented Edo state is as a whole, this mumu is trying to show which area is more islamic than which area.

From Yoruba forces to Emirs everywhere, to Ijaws in Edo south to Igbos in Ekpon in Esan land and Igbanke... Katakata just dey shele for "Edo Kingdom"

Edo muslims don't even ebar Edo names anymore (no kidding to any eutral observers watching this thread) you will see someone whose name is Abbdullah Galadima and Muhammad Bello Dan Azumi claiming to be from Edo. Just go to Auchi, Okpella, Warrake, Ibie, Agenebode Etc them plenty for there.

To the extent that Northerners now see those areas as part of the North.
Look at what the Aboki in this picture is saying

[img]http://c1.staticflickr359/35837569333_4ea0b1cac8_b.jpg[/img]

It's a pity really.

Kwara a whole Yoruba state sucking Fulani Divck since 1100AD