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Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by Nobody: 1:02am On Apr 13, 2007 |
babs787: How can one purchase a koran when he does not read Arabic since the translation of the koran in any other language makes it lose it's meaning? |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by Nobody: 1:08am On Apr 13, 2007 |
babs787: You forgot to remind him that handling of the quran is forbidden to non-muslims, that the price of "mishandling" the quran is death and that in order to make any sense of the quran he is required to learn arabic before he can attempt the laborious task of trying to make sense of allah's incoherent book of fairy tales. |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by ultrafem(f): 1:12am On Apr 13, 2007 |
David are u a christain? |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by Nobody: 1:16am On Apr 13, 2007 |
Yes, why do you ask? |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by ultrafem(f): 1:18am On Apr 13, 2007 |
just wondering. i am learning alot about ppl on NL thats all |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by Nobody: 1:22am On Apr 13, 2007 |
ah ok. I was wondering what made you ask such a question. Have i been sounding like a muslim? |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by ultrafem(f): 1:23am On Apr 13, 2007 |
no |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by nferyn(m): 9:52am On Apr 13, 2007 |
ricadelide:Not by itself, no, but given what is known about the authorship of the Bible (e.g. none of the authors was a contemporary to Jesus) and the fact that there isn't a single non-Christian author mentioning Jesus' ministry, not to speak of the fact that Jesus as a historical character has a uncanningly clear resemblance to many other mythological heroes in other cultures of that era, makes one wonder. If you add to that the disputes within the early church on the nature of Christ and how all of that fits within the tension between the Greek gnostic traditions and Judaism, you'd understand that I wouldn't wage any bets on the historicity of Jesus.Yes, apart from the Bible and some later date Christian apologetic writings, there are no records of Jesus' supposed crucifiction. All references to the life and deeds of the historical Christ are very mirky historiography.uhmn, sorry, if there are records only in the bible and other apologetic books, does that disqualify it from being a historical event simply because other books didnt record it? ricadelide:That's irrelevant. There is as much historical evidence for the historicity of Hercules and Achyles as there is of Jesus. Why then doesn't anyone assume that those Greek Homeric characters were real historic figures? ricadelide:In Roman traditions, crucifixion was a punishment reserved for criminals that were dangerous to the state. Jesus doesn't fit that pattern and neither does his trial before the Sanhedrin fit Jewish law and customs. this alone makes it a very unlikely event that - if true - should be supported by other independent evidence, which clearly isn't the case. If you still claim that Jesus was a historical figure without a shadow of a doubt, your motivations are not rational ones. ricadelide:The Bible has been so thoroughly debunked as a historical record that it's not even worth debating. Could you please define what held through means in this context, because it's meaning definitely escapes me. ricadelide:And God planted all the evidence for evolution to confuse mankind. Or was it Satan that did that? What about submerging information about his very existence? I don't see the Bible making any claims about that. Only if you already presuppose the existence of Jesus as a historical figure does your line of reasoning hold. Quod non. ricadelide:Josephus mentioning Jesus is a known insertion by a Christian copyist. Very convenient that all remaining copies of Josephus are of a later date, out of Christian libraries. |
Re: Jesus Was Crucified. by Horus(m): 9:50pm On Apr 26, 2007 |
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