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Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 4:35pm On Sep 16, 2017
Nigerian lawyers on Friday night expressed divergent views on the legality of the military’s declaration of separatist group, IPOB, as a terrorist organisation.

While some said the military’s action was in order, others said it was not done in a constitutional manner.


A senior lawyer, Mike Ozekhome, in a statement made available to PREMIUM TIMES said the instances cited by the defence headquarters in reaching its decision were not sufficient to term IPOB as terrorists.

The military cited the following as its reasons for placing the terrorist tag on IPOB: formation of a Biafra Secret Service; formation of the Biafra National Guard; unauthorised blocking of public access roads; extortion of money from innocent civilians at illegal roadblocks; militant possession and use of weapons (stones, Molotov cocktails, machetes and broken bottles among others) on a military patrol on 10 September 2017; physical confrontation of troops by Nnamdi Kanu and other IPOB actors at a checkpoint on 11 September 2017 and also attempts to snatch their rifles; attacks by IPOB members, on a military checkpoint on 12 September 2017, at Isialangwa, where one IPOB actor attempted to snatch a female soldier’s rifle.

But Mr. Ozekhome, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria disagreed with the military’s position on the matter.

“I do not believe the instances cited by the Defence Headquarters to justify declaring IPOB a terrorist organization,” he said.

“The last time I checked, I can’t remember any of such organisation operating in the country being declared terrorist organisations.

“The herdsmen who go on rampage daily, maiming, raping, killing; those responsible for the Agatu massacre; Shiites massacre, Southern Kaduna pogrom, indiscriminate killings, brazen quit notices’ givers, across Nigeria, etc, have never been arrested, prosecuted, let alone been proscribed and stigmatised as terrorist organisations.

“We must surely have and operate two sets of laws for two sets of people in Nigeria. Nigeria, we hail thee. A government should be seen to be fair to all component parts of Nigeria.”

In his reaction, lawyer and activist, Jiti Ogunye, described the declaration as ‘‘curious and strange in nature.’’

“I find it rather strange and curious that the army would declare a group a terrorist organisation. I said that because under the Section 2, subsection (C) of the terrorism prevention act 2011, it is the Attorney-General of the Federation, the National Security Adviser or Inspector-General of Police that can declare an organisation a proscribed or terrorist organisation.

“And it cannot just do so. The two arms of government have to be involved for an organisation to be proscribed. Also involved are the various arms of government mentioned, as well as the president himself who must give an approval. The executive arm of government will approach the court with an application to give an order. This is to allow for a dispassionate and rational assessment of the application to see whether it is warranted.


“The judge is not part of the executive, he is independent. We have not been told by the military or the Federal Government of Nigeria that an application has been made to the Federal High Court in Nigeria. That is why I said it is curious. If it is the military that has not done this, then it is unconstitutional and illegal. We are not in a military regime, no matter what the situation is, we have to follow the rule of law so if no order has been obtained to this effect. What has been done is unlawful,” Mr. Ogunye said.

He added that the previous declaration by the Kaduna State Governor, Nasir El-rufai, that the Shiite IMN is a terrorist group, is also unconstitutional.

“Of course, it is an illegal declaration. Who gave the Kaduna State Governor the power to do that? The right to association, freedom of opinion, right to hold an opinion, freedom of conscience and the right to freedom of speech are guaranteed. These are entrenched rights in the constitution, so when you are taking these rights away you have to follow very thoroughly and to the minutest details, the dictates of the law.

“If a power is supposed to be exercised by an authority and that power is not something you can delegate, no other authority can exercise that power. The law is that penal legislation; that is penalties that contain sanctions must be construed so narrowly lest the rights of the people will be the immediate casualty. The law construes such sections narrowly so that the slightest mistake will be held against the person who is claiming refuge to the dictates of that law,” Mr. Ogunye added.


The lawyer argued further that the declaration of IPOB as a terror group has a reverberating effect on likely innocent supporters of the group.

“It is a monstrous law; even the Ohaneze Indigbo, the South-east governors that would want to defend these groups cannot do that because the terrorism act is saying that you cannot associate with them: because if you do, you have become a co-conspirator.”

Mr. Ogunye noted that although the military has the right of way and the area reportedly overtaken by the IPOB members, where they attempted to prevent the army from passing, is not an IPOB territory, ‘‘the army themselves are not above the law.’’

He noted further that the section of the law which defines the actions that constitute terrorism is rather wide in its description.

“Section 1 subsection (2) of the Act that describes what a terrorist organisation is, is so wide that organisations (indeed) any organisation involved in massive mobilisation against the government of the day can be labelled a terrorist organisation.

“Section 2 (3) of the act paragraph 2 provides that for the avoidance of doubt, political parties should not be described as a proscribed organisation and nobody should be treated as such because of his or her political belief. It is true that this provision is there, but when you look at section 1 of the act which gives the wide description of organisations that can be described as a terrorist organisation, then you will see that any organisation can be regarded as a terrorist organisation if it is fighting the government for whatever cause.’’

According to Mr. Ogunye, it is important in the light of the provisions of the act, ‘‘to consider the relationship between IPOB and the acclaimed Boko Haram terrorists and, with a view to determining whether they have something in common.’’

Another lawyer, Gloria Ezedika, also cautioned against flouting Nigerian law in making such declarations.

‘‘The problem we have is that most of these people do not know what the law says. It is important to understand what the definition of terrorism is and to determine the signs of terrorism that we have seen in the actions of the actions of the IPOB members. No arm of government surpasses the law.

“The constitution should guide every act and whatever is done that does not conform with the provisions of the constitution is illegal and unconstitutional,” she said.

Also, Akinolu Kehinde, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, said the law has to be followed fully and an order of a court is necessary before such a declaration can be made.

“The power to declare a group a terrorist group belongs to the Honourable Attorney-General of the Federation, the NSA or the IGP. After any of these arms have made the declaration, following the approval of the president, the attorney-general will now apply to the court, to get a judicial seal. The court still has to make a pronouncement,’’ Mr. Kehinde said.


However, other senior lawyers said the military’s action was not unconstitutional.

A Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Rotimi Jacobs, said the executive arm of government has the power to make the said declaration.

He added that military, working as an arm of government ‘‘can speak for the President.’’

“It should be the executive and I believe the military has the mandate of the President. The president has not said anything to the contrary, so I believe they are speaking the opinion of the President,” Mr. Jacobs said.

In his reaction, another Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Samson Ameh, said the Nigerian President had the right to declare the group a terrorist organisation, adding that the president had ‘’peculiar rights over’’ to take such an action.

“The president has the right to make such a declaration. He has peculiar rights regarding the security of a country. It’s like declaring a war, in America, it is called the affirmative action. That is what we call the police action here. Also, the Inspector-General of Police can make the declaration on behalf of the President,” Mr. Ameh said.


In a related matter, South-east governors on Friday announced the proscription of IPOB following the spread of the violence in the region after the organisation clashed with the military.

Also, the controversial governor of Ekiti State, Ayodele Fayose, described the “maltreatment” and “killing” of IPOB members agitating for the state of Biafra, as ethnic cleansing.

“I have said it before now that it is only God that can help the Igbo people. What I see going on in the South-east is ethnic cleansing when you see the video clips of that occupation, the behaviour of the soldiers, leaves much to be desired but they cannot act like that without a whistleblower, somebody is behind them telling them go and ‘cleanse the people,’” he said in Ado-Ekiti on Friday.

“That is recklessness, human rights violation in Nigeria today is second to none. And I hope the international community would not be quiet on this. It is unfortunate.”

Mr. Fayose, a vocal critic of the APC administration, noted that the IPOB struggle was beyond Mr. Kanu, stating that the South-east region was facing serious challenges and difficult times.

“The herdsmen wreaking havoc all over, and killing, what has the military done to deal with them? Has anyone of the herdsmen been prosecuted, let alone giving them this kind of treatment?” he asked.

“You went to court to revoke Kanu’s bail but you can’t even wait for the court to take a decision before occupying his house. Nigeria is in trouble except the Lord helps us.”

WHAT THE LAW SAYS

According to the Section 2 (c) of the terrorism prevention act, in setting up or pursuing acts of terrorism, the judge in chambers may on an application made by the Attorney-General, National Security Adviser or Inspector-General of Police on the approval of the President; declare an entity to be a proscribed organisation and the notice should be published in official gazette.

Subsection (2) of the same act adds that: “An order made under sub-section (1) of this section shall be published in the official gazette, in two National newspapers and at such other places as the judge in Chambers may determine.’’

Subsection three adds that; “A publication made under sub-section (2) of this section shall contain such relevant particulars as the judge in Chambers may specify.’’



Source: http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/243398-lawyers-speak-military-declaration-ipob-terrorist-group.html

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by LUGBE: 4:38pm On Sep 16, 2017
They don't have ears

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by tsdarkside(m): 4:38pm On Sep 16, 2017
hindering military personel on their duties is a big crime..

i dont think any military in the world would accept what ipob did....

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by NCP: 4:41pm On Sep 16, 2017
So you are free to redraw the map of a nation, create a secret service and an Army within a nation with a standing National Army.

Na war be that. IPOB became a terror organisation the moment it went that way.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by paschu: 4:44pm On Sep 16, 2017
undecided
Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by babyfaceafrica: 4:45pm On Sep 16, 2017
Story..if they have issues with the army..they should sue their ass..till then..they should keep quiet...lawyers are liars

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 4:51pm On Sep 16, 2017
Who so you guys think are right in the interpretation of said law? Please leave your opinion about IPOB out. Let's just discuss law. Personally I think the lawyers opposed to DHQ declaration are right. Unless the courts have signed off on it its null. Even if the army is moving with presidents directive.

● Opposition to Army declaration in blue
● Support to army declaration in purple
● Law in green.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by PehaKaso: 4:53pm On Sep 16, 2017
grin
Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Kylekent59: 5:00pm On Sep 16, 2017
Buhari does not know how to rule.

Simple!!!

Sometimes I wonder if he seeks help from his vice or it could be the arewa youths are the one telling him what to do. This is :

An insult to democracy
An insult to the constitution
An insult to Nigeria.


Bad politicians are not born.
They are created by some good people who do not vote...

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Israeljones(m): 5:04pm On Sep 16, 2017
Some are supporting the tagging of ipob a terrorist group while others are against it... but the op choose to highlight the one that best suits his balls.....
But my problem is with that man called FAYOSE,His utternaces sometimes is just so unintelligent, politically driven, bias, pointing at one direction and lack any form of intellectual reasoning,,,i just wonder, is this not the same OZUO that signed a bill to ban the herdsman from gracing in ekiti into law..... Mr Fayose you dont deserve to be a governor, sometimes i just wonder how God could be so selective giving riff-raffs like this a position of leader....

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Omeokachie: 5:07pm On Sep 16, 2017
Inmates are running this assylum.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 5:10pm On Sep 16, 2017
Israeljones:
Some are supporting the tagging of ipob a terrorist group while others are against it... but the op choose to highlight the one that best suits his balls.....

Stop being daft child. I gave both sides fair shine. The other two lawyers opinions were less about the law and more about the uneven application of the law.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by AWOisaCOWARD: 5:15pm On Sep 16, 2017
Hmmm

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Israeljones(m): 5:21pm On Sep 16, 2017
Blue3k:


Stop being daft child. I gave both sides fair shine. The other two lawyers opinions were less about the law and more about the uneven application of the law.
Clap 4 ur sef SAN..... I dont know what qualifications you got to know which lawyer opinions are less or more ... We know wah old fools like you stands to derive with petty reports like this you probably stole from other credible news outlet....

The did has bin done.... The president can go to any length to make sure sanity is restored wea needed and also ensure the unity of the country is not bin takn for a ride by some scums....
If you feel it doesn't suit ur pleasure, just join Nnamdi Kanu wea he probably hiding his balls right nw..... anumpama

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 5:28pm On Sep 16, 2017
Israeljones:

Clap 4 ur sef SAN..... I dont know what qualifications you got to know which lawyer opinions are less or more ... We know wah old fools like you stands to derive with petty reports like this you probably stole from other credible news outlet....


The did has being done.... The president can go to any length to make sure sanity is restored wea needed and also ensure the unity of the country is not been takn for a ride by some scums....
If you feel it doesn't suit ur pleasure, just join Nnamdi Kanu wea is he probably hiding his balls right nw..... anumpama


lol what a senseless post. How did I steal a post I credited. Second most threads are just repost of articles. Its an opinion even the lawyers thoughts dont matter. The judge's opinion is only one that counts at end of day. Why are you suddenly giving your opinion are you the judge or lawyer that your legal opinion matters? Why did you assume I support Kanu because of how an article is highlighted?

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Israeljones(m): 5:36pm On Sep 16, 2017
Blue3k:


lol what a senseless post. How did I steal a post I credited. Second most threads are just repost of articles. lastly its an opinion even the lawyers thoughts dont matter. The judge opinion is only one that counts at end of day.
Am sure those sentences wasn't higlighted wea u copied it from.... . If you know you were not trying to spring up something here why highlight wah You lifted from that platform...
You can call it opinions that doesnt count when you know it doesnt suit ur lines...
Now that i have pointed out your ur dumb asss bias move, You shamefully highlighted everything to make yu look just...
MEDIOCRES like you are not needed here

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 5:42pm On Sep 16, 2017
Israeljones:

Am sure those sentences wasn't higlighted wea u copied it from.... . If you know you were not trying to spring up something here why highlight wah You lifted from that platform...
You can call it opinions that doesnt count when you know it doesnt suit ur lines...
Now that i have pointed out your ur dumb asss bias move, You shamefully highlighted everything to make yu look just...
MEDIOCRES like you are not needed here

Lol how can I have bias on both ends thats some daft logic you have. I highlighted every perspective about the constitutionality and the law itself. Did I say opinions didn't count. lol there you go making idiotic assumption. Its funny you're projecting so hard. Maybe you cant count but there's only two lawyers that agreed with DHQ and I highlighted there who argument.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Israeljones(m): 5:49pm On Sep 16, 2017
You made this statement
Blue3k:


lol what a senseless post. How did I steal a post I credited. Second most threads are just repost of articles. Its an opinion even the lawyers thoughts dont matter. The judge's opinion is only one that counts at end of day. Why are you suddenly giving your opinion are you the judge or lawyer that your legal opinion matters? Why did you assume I support Kanu because of how an article is highlighted?








but denying it here
Blue3k:


Lol how can I have bias on both ends thats some daft logic you have. I highlighted every perspective about the constitutionality and the law itself. Did I say opinions didn't count. lol there you go making idiotic assumption. Its funny you're projecting so hard. Maybe you cant count but there's only two lawyers that agreed with DHQ and I highlighted there who argument.


just pointing out ur double standards and your 2faced personality
you r saying something now,, the next minute you r denying it... wen u know yu av bin caught

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 5:54pm On Sep 16, 2017
Israeljones:





just pointing out ur double standards and your 2faced personality
you r saying something now,, the next minute you r denying it... wen u know yu av bin caught

Are you daft you daft child I ask you why you suddenly gave my your legalitarian opinion after you told me first. Lol you can't be this dumb. Second you lost the context because you can't read. In interpreting law and constitutionality the judge has final decision over what the law means and how it should be applied. That's not two faced it's facts.

Israeljones:
I dont know what qualifications you got to know which lawyer opinions are less or more

The president can go to any length to make sure sanity is restored wea needed and also ensure the unity of the country is not been takn for a ride by some scums....

Lol your schizophrenic quote. what are your qualifications to tell us why you feel you know better. We need answers.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Israeljones(m): 5:59pm On Sep 16, 2017
Blue3k:


Are you daft you daft child I ask you why you suddenly gave my your legalitarian opinion after you told me first. Lol you can't be this dumb.
Now you have resulted into insults.... now tell me who the infant is here....
The white hair you have doesnt make u an elder which i even doubt you are....
i cant even comprehend the gibberish yu rote up dea....
i dont give people like u much of my time like i av done with ur dumb asss....

i will skool you if only yu can pay for the services...
Nkita

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by Blue3k(m): 6:02pm On Sep 16, 2017
Israeljones:

Now you have resulted into insults.... now tell me who the infant is here....
The white hair you have doesnt make u an elder which i even doubt you are....
i cant even comprehend the gibberish yu rote up dea....
i dont give people like u much of my time like i av done with ur dumb asss....

i will skool you if only yu can pay for the services...
Nkita


Yawn are you still on this daft rant. Lol you said I contradicted myself because because you can't read in context. Get someone to explain full quote since you lack understanding.

Saying lawyers opinion don't matter in that context is true. It doesn't matter because only judge can determine who's right or wrong. It's same as saying minority opinion doesn't matter on supreme court level because it's inconsequential.

You said opinions don't count when they don't suit me. I gave room for everyone to express opinion. I never said nobody should express contrary opinion to mine.


Israeljones:

You can call it opinions that doesnt count when you know it doesnt suit ur lines...

Blue3k:
Who so you guys think are right in the interpretation of said law? Please leave your opinion about IPOB out. Let's just discuss law.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by freeze001(f): 6:25pm On Sep 16, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
Story..if they have issues with the army..they should sue their ass..till then..they should keep quiet...lawyers are liars

Lawyers here have cited written law yet they are liars?!

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by BlackMbakara1(m): 6:26pm On Sep 16, 2017
The bottom line for now is IPOB can't operate in Nigeria till Buhari leaves power as the court doesn't give judgement immediately and even if she does in favour of IPOB, FG will study it as it concerns national security...which is paramount.

If you have balls as an IPOB member now, fly your flag in the South East territory of the "Zoo" and see if the python won't dance on your skin.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by TheKingdom: 6:29pm On Sep 16, 2017
BlackMbakara1:
The bottom line for now is IPOB can't operate in Nigeria till Buhari leaves power as the court doesn't give judgement immediately and even if she does in favour of IPOB, FG will study it as it concerns national security...which is paramount.

If you have balls as an IPOB member now, fly your flag in the South East territory of the "Zoo" and see if the python won't dance on your skin.

And how has this helped you or your family in any way? Can you even tell us if Buhari is even in the "Zoo" or not?

Are you proud he went abroad for over 90+ days to wear diapers in London without giving you his "boss" notice?

You guys dont want to change because you are all under mind control as a result of colonialzation/militarization and behave and think like Niggers.

Shame on your mama, papa dem

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by BlackMbakara1(m): 6:32pm On Sep 16, 2017
TheKingdom:


And how has this helped you or your family in any way? Can you even tell us if Buhari is even in the "Zoo" or not?

Are you proud he went abroad for over 90+ days to wear diapers in London without giving you his "boss" notice?

You guys dont want to change because you are all under mind control as a result of colonialzation/militarization and behave and think like Niggers.

Shame on your mama, papa dem

It's your stock in trade, insulting and abusing other people as it's your exclusive right...come get biafra dimwit.

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by vincentjk(m): 6:46pm On Sep 16, 2017
Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by idupaul: 6:47pm On Sep 16, 2017
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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by czarina(f): 6:48pm On Sep 16, 2017
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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by lordkush: 6:50pm On Sep 16, 2017
if ipob true true become terrorist I go run comot from nijiriya

because bokoharam go be child's play o hmmm



y dem not go bow abuja to bits?

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Re: Lawyers Speak On Military Declaration Of IPOB As Terrorist Group by dreamworld: 6:50pm On Sep 16, 2017
Just negodu islamic terrorists calling peaceful christians a terrorist
Even a dead person in the grave will laugh out laud on hearing that

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