eelipumpin:

you think its about the money. I spend more than thirty percent of my salary on God's work. Its about wrong doctrines in our church.

then it's really non of your buisness if someone pays or not , after all it's not your money and they aren't forcing you

Tithe is real but it will only yield good when you pay it to the right person.

frankmoney:
then it's really non of your buisness if someone pays or not , after all it's not your money and they aren't forcing you

You don't understand basic things of the scriptures. Continue doing what you want. The church is my business as I'm part of it.

frankmoney:
Why is that 10% you guys are always bothered with ? You have a whole 90% to yourself and you still grumbling over 10 I have come to realize that people who condemn tithing don't pay tithe so why bother others that do ? Is it your money ?

But how many people that pay tithes really understand what it means to give? Some people will bypass needy persons to give tithes in the church. Some people have widows as neighbours. They never bother to reach out to these people. In all, tithes emphasize giving to receive, which is a horrible reason to give. That is why we have politicians stealing billions that they should use to better the lots of the masses and give them as tithes and gifts to pastors. True giving emphasizes giving out of love, without compulsion.

James 1:27 tells us about the truest religion. Why is that not what should be more emphasized.

lonikit:


u are ryt but why do Christians emphasize tithe as against the perfect religion which is the visit widow and fatherless and be spotless bfr God.

I get u. a lot has gone wrong in Christendom but we can do our bit to help. Even in the old testaments. Widows, the poor and fatherles never pay tithes but today. The church makes sure that even the jobless pay tithes.

eelipumpin:

You don't understand basic things of the scriptures. Continue doing what you want. The church is my business as I'm part of it.

but it's not your buisness what other people do .

lonikit:


tithe is biblical. it was a law by God himself

tithe is a basic requirement in the mosaic law which was meant to cater for the Levites (priesthood tribe). The gospel of Jesus Christ which forms the basis of Christianity does not place emphasis on tithes. Rather people should give willingly. Even the apostle Paul emphasized that giving in the church should not be under compulsion, but God loves a cheerful giver. Tithing is clearly a provision of the old covenant, which has become obsolete with the introduction of the new covenant.
So the apostle James stressed that the purest form of worship is (not in the payment of tithes) but by looking after widows and orphans.

eelipumpin:

There's a law of life by the spirit. Those that are led by the spirit. its not a set down rules for jews . its a Lifestyle of obedience. Animal sacrifices used to be a commandment. Why did you stop. Killing Unbelievers used to be a law. Why don't you keep that. Adulterers should be stoned to death. Bros. why don't we continue these except tithe... wow. find the correlation. I still prefer giving my all than tithe.

I wnt u to knw that some churches still do sacrifice.
regarding the issue of killing, God clearly said it that he hate shedding of blood, its only in some cases that God allow it either by men or by angels or by God himself.
civilization is another factor that stoped that. prophets, judges and kings were controlling that tym, but Paul made it clear in new testament that we shud submit the earthly govt and no govt allows that.

eelipumpin:

I get u. a lot has gone wrong in Christendom but we can do our bit to help. Even in the old testaments. Widows, the poor and fatherles never pay tithes but today. The church makes sure that even the jobless pay tithes.

it obvious we are on same page nw. tnx for understand.

How will they eat, maintain there mansions, service private jets, have investments and service there luxury lifestyle if they preach the truth to you.

One thing I "LOVE" the Bible for is that it can't be twisted anyway to favour your plan.

Teacher1776:

tithe is a basic requirement in the mosaic law which was meant to cater for the Levites (priesthood tribe). The gospel of Jesus Christ which forms the basis of Christianity does not place emphasis on tithes. Rather people should give willingly. Even the apostle Paul emphasized that giving in the church should not be under compulsion, but God loves a cheerful giver. Tithing is clearly a provision of the old covenant, which has become obsolete with the introduction of the new covenant.
So the apostle James stressed that the purest form of worship is (not in the payment of tithes) but by looking after widows and orphans.

God bless

ipobarecriminals:
whatever. God cannot be mocked. We'll reap what we sow.Mind u,Mal 3:10 trigger. FAITH.U rather serve God with ur tithes. so dat ur life won't remain TIGHT./U kip spending it on sickness.When u pray/exercise it.u'll see the wonders in the word

The part in bold is false. We really should stop this scare mongering way of defrauding gullible people. Dangote is the richest man in Nigeria. He's a Muslim and doesn't pay tithe.

I stopped paying tithe and going to church all together since 2010 and my financial position keeps improving year after year. I have also not been admitted for any sickness since then. Tithe is the biggest scam in the world, stop deceiving people to part with their money.

lonikit:
Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it .


James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


I have observed that the first reference is more preached in the churches more than the second.
this thread is not meant to mock but to correct the habit of selective teaching of the word of God.

What do you expect from a society that have over 95% of its pastors as,"career pastors "?.

lonikit:
Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it .


James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


I have observed that the first reference is more preached in the churches more than the second.
this thread is not meant to mock but to correct the habit of selective teaching of the word of God.

u forgot Deuteronomy 26 vs 12, pastors hate this verse

lonikit:

it obvious we are on same page nw. tnx for understand.

peace bro

lonikit:
Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it .


James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


I have observed that the first reference is more preached in the churches more than the second.
this thread is not meant to mock but to correct the habit of selective teaching of the word of God.

you misunderstood the both quotations, James 1:27 is talking about visiting the orphanages and widow, this simply means feeding the people who are not yet with the spirit of God (born again) the word of God, for them to repent and have a comforter,(holy spirit) and be comforted by God
while the Malachi 3:10 ,is talking about giving your tithes and of rings, this simply means giving your body and soul to God and in return, he will feel you with his wisdom and knowledge of his word as blessing, not about money . God is not interested in our money,but our life , no one can obtain the blessing of God with money but by our obedience to his word, that's all. the Church today are just misinterpreting the word of God in the flesh (material things) .the word of God has a spiritual understanding, and you need to have the spirit of God to understand his word,if not, the world will deceive you, God bless you.

lonikit:


I wnt u to knw that some churches still do sacrifice.
regarding the issue of killing, God clearly said it that he hate shedding of blood, its only in some cases that God allow it either by men or by angels or by God himself.
civilization is another factor that stoped that. prophets, judges and kings were controlling that tym, but Paul made it clear in new testament that we shud submit the earthly govt and no govt allows that.

Its well. If we want to follow, let's understand deeply what we Re doing. The Authority of man can never replace that of God. Paul stated that we Re the living sacrifices that we should continually offer. peace bro

lonikit:


I wnt u to knw that some churches still do sacrifice.
regarding the issue of killing, God clearly said it that he hate shedding of blood, its only in some cases that God allow it either by men or by angels or by God himself.
civilization is another factor that stoped that. prophets, judges and kings were controlling that tym, but Paul made it clear in new testament that we shud submit the earthly govt and no govt allows that.

ts well. If we want to follow, let's understand deeply what we Re doing. The Authority of man can never replace that of God. Paul stated that we Re the living sacrifices that we should continually offer. peace bro

Emytexboy:

you misunderstood the both quotations, James 1:27 is talking about visiting the orphanages and widow, this simply means feeding the people who are not yet with the spirit of God (born again) the word of God, for them to repent and have a comforter,(holy spirit) and be comforted by God
while the Malachi 3:10 ,is talking about giving your tithes and of rings, this simply means giving your body and soul to God and in return, he will feel you with his wisdom and knowledge of his word as blessing, not about money . God is not interested in our money,but our life , no one can obtain the blessing of God with money but by our obedience to his word, that's all. the Church today are just misinterpreting the word of God in the flesh (material things) .the word of God has a spiritual understanding, and you need to have the spirit of God to understand his word,if not, the world will deceive you, God bless you.

blood of Jesus. are u serious with what u typed here


let me just reserve my comment. I pray u don't mislead ur followers.

Emytexboy:

you misunderstood the both quotations, James 1:27 is talking about visiting the orphanages and widow, this simply means feeding the people who are not yet with the spirit of God (born again) the word of God, for them to repent and have a comforter,(holy spirit) and be comforted by God
while the Malachi 3:10 ,is talking about giving your tithes and of rings, this simply means giving your body and soul to God and in return, he will feel you with his wisdom and knowledge of his word as blessing, not about money . God is not interested in our money,but our life , no one can obtain the blessing of God with money but by our obedience to his word, that's all. the Church today are just misinterpreting the word of God in the flesh (material things) .the word of God has a spiritual understanding, and you need to have the spirit of God to understand his word,if not, the world will deceive you, God bless you.

blood of Jesus. are u serious with what u typed here


let me just reserve my comment. I pray u don't mislead ur followers.
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There is no pastor or rev. Who dosnt own a house or car(s). If they re to be called levites then we shud always see dem in God's temple 24-7.

Seun is a religious bigot

SUPERPACK:
modern day tithe is simply an indoctrination by the pope and church, do the levites still exist?

Why mention the Pope? The catholic church doesn't emphasize on tithe like protestant churches. Only in recent times, they just announce it for the sake of formality. Its never emphasized. Say what you are sure of. I don't get how those who have never stepped into a Catholic church for one day get to criticize them.

lonikit:
many pastors are ignorant of the law of tithing or maybe they don't want to talk abt it sha. tithe according to God is to be brought at the end of every 3years. it should be given to four set of people:
the widow
the Levite's
the fatherless
and the strangers.

the reverse is the case in this generation. many pastors are more conscious of tithes than what the bible says abt wht constitutes the perfect religion which is seen in James 1:27.

Please give bible reference to where tithe should be brought every 3 years

lonikit:


most of the laws of God are seen in the old testelament sir. it talks more abt the law. especially the books of the prophets

is that why tithe is marketed in the church?

lonikit:


Levite's are equivalent to full time pastors in this generation. there are pastors who do not do anytin aside the work of God.

I would advise you to recheck the bible to know those truly called Levite's. All believers in Christ are the Levite if you don't know. They were all given the mandate to preach to all nations.

ehimeayeni:


Please give bible reference to where tithe should be brought every 3 years

Deuteronomy 26:12 KJV
When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;


u can read the whole chapter for proper understanding. u will also find laws guiding firstftuit offering there.

lonikit:


oga, broaden ur understanding pls. are u saying jesus came to fulfil laws meant for isreal

I was just asking a question. If you know the answer pls answer, don't ask me another question. Jesus was not specific about the LAW in Matt 5, but he said commandments, which was why I referred you to the book of Mal 4:4. The commandments were given to the Israelites by God and Jesus had to fulfilled them. The issue of Born Again was not in the that commandments. see Matt 5 : 20 - 21 .

lonikit:
many pastors are ignorant of the law of tithing or maybe they don't want to talk abt it sha. tithe according to God is to be brought at the end of every 3years. it should be given to four set of people:
the widow
the Levite's
the fatherless
and the strangers.

the reverse is the case in this generation. many pastors are more conscious of tithes than what the bible says abt wht constitutes the perfect religion which is seen in James 1:27.

Which verse of the Bible referred Widows/ Fatherless and the strangers as beneficiaries of tithe

Big lie. I wedded in the Anglican Church. No one asked to pay tithe or dues. Say what you know biko.

SUPERPACK:
here in the anglican church before the church attend your wedding or anybody's burial your tithe and contribution must be up to date, or else the pastors wont come.

lonikit:
Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it .


James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


I have observed that the first reference is more preached in the churches more than the second.
this thread is not meant to mock but to correct the habit of selective teaching of the word of God.

Well, maybe in certain churches. In winners to the best of my knowledge, they preach both. Don't forget that there are lazy people disguising as needy. The easiest to fulfil is that of the fatherless, widows etc. Others are hard to support even if you have the money cos people are very proud, lazy and dishonest.