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Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by LordAdam: 3:00pm On Sep 18, 2017
In June 2013, GEJ rightly declared Boko Haram and Ansaru as terrorist organizations.

But unlike the military did with IPOB, GEJ did not pull that pronouncement out of his hat.

It was based on an Order of the Federal High Court Abuja.



The Federal Government has issued a gazette on the proscription of Jamaatu Ahlis-sunna Liddaawati Wal Jihad (otherwise known as Boko Haram) and Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina fi Biladis Sudan (JAMBS).

The gazette, titled “Terrorism (Prevention) (Proscription Order) Notice 2013 was signed by the Attorney-General of the Federation, Mr. Mohammed Bello Adoke (SAN).

The gazette reads: “Order declaring the activities of ‘Jamaatu Ahlis-Sunna Liddaawati Wal Jihad and ‘Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina Fi Biladis Sudan ’ as terrorism and illegal, proscribing their existence and restraining any person or group of persons from participating in any manner whatsoever in any form of activities or concerning the prosecution of the collective intentions or otherwise of the said groups.

“Notice is hereby given that by the Order of the Federal High Court Abuja, in Suit No. FHC/ABJ/CS/ 368/2013 dated 24th May, 2013 as per the Schedule to this Notice, the Activities of ‘Jamaatu Ahlis-Sunna Liddaawati Wal Jihad and ‘Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina Fi Biladis Sudan’ are declared to be terrorism and illegal and that the existence of Jamaatu Ahlis-Sunna Liddaawati Wal Jihad and ‘Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina Fi Biladis Sudan’ are proscribed, pursuant to Section 2 of the Terrorism (Prevention) Act 20111(As Amended)."

Source: http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/fg-issues-gazette-on-proscription-of-boko-haram-ansaru/

The proscription was pursuant to Section 2 of the TPA.

Furthermore, Section 9 of the TPA does not "makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group," as Cacawa2 wrongly asserted. Only Section 2 accords that authority. Section 9 clearly pertains to an individual rather than an organization.

Nigeria is no longer under military rule, so it is tantamount to usurping of powers for the Nigerian Army to unilaterally declare an organization a terrorist organization, and should be roundly condemned by all well-meaning Nigerians.

IPOB remains a lawful organization until a case calling for its proscription as a terrorist group is filed by the Attorney General of the Federation and a court of competent jurisdiction gives requisite order. Until then, the proclamation by the Nigerian Army is unconstitutional, illegal, and an affront to the rule of law.

-Lord

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by TheArchangel(f): 3:10pm On Sep 18, 2017
I doubt if they will send this to the frontpage.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by emmasege: 3:11pm On Sep 18, 2017
This is a proof of misfired propaganda from Cacawa2. Expect your query from your boss, the minister of information and propaganda i.e. Alhaji Liar Muhammed.

And why have the mods not pushed this to the fp? How's this different from corruption if shallow threads about celebrities make the fp with just 2 or 3 posts and within an interval of 5 minutes?

Cc: mynd44, lalasticlala

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by EmeeNaka: 3:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
Section 9 talks about individual.
IPOB is not a terrorist group but they bear some semblance of Boko Haram
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Desyner: 3:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
The debate goes on in the mean time Buhari sees nothing terrifying in Fulani blood thirsty herdsmen . . . Sai baba.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by shortgun(m): 3:15pm On Sep 18, 2017
Govt. of confusion.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by richidinho(m): 3:17pm On Sep 18, 2017
grin grin grin grin grin grin

This comment on that thread got me *****

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by paschu: 3:21pm On Sep 18, 2017
Mynd44, Seun, Lalasticlala kiss
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Blue3k(m): 3:22pm On Sep 18, 2017
Wow Lord Adam debunked it in minutes.

Front Page: lalasticla Mynd44

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Balkan(m): 3:22pm On Sep 18, 2017
TheArchangel:
I doubt if they will send this to the frontpage.
are you you yet to realise that Naira land Mods, are trained and instructed to work against Igbos On NL

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by laudate: 3:25pm On Sep 18, 2017
Balkan:
are you you yet to realise that Naira land Mods, are trained and instructed to work against Igbos On NL

Stop telling lies! When your pro Biafra mods were banning people left, right and centre, you did not see it, right?

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by dunkem21(m): 3:26pm On Sep 18, 2017
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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by laudate: 3:29pm On Sep 18, 2017
LordAdam:
In June 2013, GEJ rightly declared Boko Haram and Ansaru as terrorist organizations.

But unlike the military did with IPOB, GEJ did not pull that pronouncement out of his hat.

It was based on an Order of the Federal High Court Abuja.

The proscription was pursuant to Section 2 of the TPA.

Furthermore, Section 9 of the TPA does not "makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group," as Cacawa2 wrongly asserted. Only Section 2 accords that authority. Section 9 clearly pertains to an individual rather than an organization.

Nigeria is no longer under military rule, so it is tantamount to usurping of powers for the Nigerian Army to unilaterally declare an organization a terrorist organization, and should be roundly condemned by all well-meaning Nigerians.

IPOB remains a lawful organization until a case calling for its proscription as a terrorist group is filed by the Attorney General of the Federation and a court of competent jurisdiction gives requisite order. Until then, the proclamation by the Nigerian Army is unconstitutional, illegal, and an affront to the rule of law.

-Lord

Where are those Yoruba chaps on NL? Come and see what is happening. One of your people that the ipob crew normally call Afonja is now the one supporting IPOB and telling the world that the proscription was wrong. How ironic! Wonders shall never cease!

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by TheArchangel(f): 3:36pm On Sep 18, 2017
Balkan:
are you you yet to realise that Naira land Mods, are trained and instructed to work against Igbos On NL
This one is quite obvious ooooo
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by TheArchangel(f): 3:38pm On Sep 18, 2017
laudate:


Where are those Yoruba chaps on NL? Come and see what is happening. One of your people that the ipob crew normally call Afonja is now the one supporting IPOB and telling the world that the proscription was wrong. How ironic! Wonders shall never cease!
Arenyou sure? Cos LordAdam has never claimed Yoruba

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Hofbrauhaus: 3:38pm On Sep 18, 2017
Will this ever make front page?
The speed the other nonsense made front page surprised even zombies .

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Ereolamide: 3:39pm On Sep 18, 2017
laudate:


Where are those Yoruba chaps on NL? Come and see what is happening. One of your people that the ipob crew normally call Afonja is now the one supporting IPOB and telling the world that the proscription was wrong. How ironic! Wonders shall never cease!
I don't think it's wrong if the young man whether he's Yoruba or not decides to set the records straight, we're also here to learn one thing or another. Enlightening the netizens is one thing becoming a dumb olive branches waving koala is another.

The only problem I've with some Yoruba monikers is their political correctness in matters related to foes that would ridicule Yorubas if Yorubas are unfortunate to be in their shoes. This is exactly what the Hausa's had gotten right.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Beeman1(m): 3:41pm On Sep 18, 2017
Both Saraki and Ipod are bunch of nonentity and we will deal with any Id*iot terrorist.

God bless N.A

God bless Mr president

God bless Nigeria
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by freeze001(f): 3:48pm On Sep 18, 2017
Tonyebarcanista can u see that Jonathan complied with the letters of the law and that he acted on a court order? Continue supporting stupidity

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by idupaul: 3:51pm On Sep 18, 2017
Facts don't lie ..

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Blue3k(m): 3:53pm On Sep 18, 2017
idupaul:
Facts don't lie ..

Cacawa2 does though.

Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by fergie001(m): 3:54pm On Sep 18, 2017
Immediately,I saw that thread,
I started laughing,
What the f.uck should that be doing on FP?
Why should a MOD attempt to re-write history?

I will never blame Muslims,No way
Violence is individualistic
I have seen armed robbers who are xtians as thieves and steal from churches.

But when someone pushes the particular opinion of a divisive individual to try to confuse,divide and upturn justice,
What kind of terrorism is worse than that?

Was our constitution written in Swahili or Egun?
Justice should reign supreme irrespective of tribes,please.

He complied with the dictates of the constitution,followed all the rudiments of the law,through the High Court,without subjecting himself with the force of the law using the Military,yet some said he is Anti-North.
If I see any post of that Cassava or Cagawa on any FP here again which proves to be divisive,I will go on my knees and fast,until sense falls on him.

Jonathan could be anything,but within this context,he fully complied.When you are paid with blood money,try to justify it appropriately by doing a thorough background.

Army,Governors,and Police all erred,
the quicker they know this,the best for them.

I am still waiting for PMB and that figurine,Malami,thus I will withold pouring invectives on his person,until he returns and deny this;then we will now inquire who made that pronouncement.Then we will know who tried to usurp the President in a staged coup,then treat him/her as an enemy combatant.

"The illiterate of the 21st Century,are not those who cannot read and write,but those who cannot learn,relearn and unlearn."

Please be guided and always stand for the truth at all times.

OP,Thank You for this purposeful information.
Please can this also be sent to where the other one was sent,MODs!

Wisdom fall on us all.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by kokosin: 3:57pm On Sep 18, 2017
everybody Na lawyer
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Blue3k(m): 4:07pm On Sep 18, 2017
kokosin:
everybody Na lawyer

Nope some people are just better at fact checking than others. Cacawa2 Lied in his opening argument saying Jonathan didn't get court approval. Then convinced ignorant Nairalanders this was precedent.

Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Nobody: 4:26pm On Sep 18, 2017
His ramblings shouldn't be given the credence of serious thought.

This article explains it dialectically http://thenigerialawyer.com/neither-the-military-nor-governors-has-the-legal-vires-to-declareproscribe-any-organization-as-terrorist-group-in-nigeria/

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by fergie001(m): 4:26pm On Sep 18, 2017
laudate:


Where are those Yoruba chaps on NL? Come and see what is happening. One of your people that the ipob crew normally call Afonja is now the one supporting IPOB and telling the world that the proscription was wrong. How ironic! Wonders shall never cease!
I like your signature,most especially because I like the man.

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by EldaTimba(m): 4:52pm On Sep 18, 2017
"It takes strength and courage to admit the truth."
Rick Riordan

“ Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."
Theodore Roosevelt

Cc: mynd44, lalasticlala

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Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Oxenomy: 5:05pm On Sep 18, 2017
Propaganda, lies and half-truths flying around just to defend ilegality.. Shame on all this hypocrites that calls themselves progressives..
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by HiddenShadow: 5:10pm On Sep 18, 2017
Seun pls take this to the front page

People need to see how ignorant some Nairaland members are
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by fergie001(m): 5:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
EldaTimba:
"It takes strength and courage to admit the truth."
Rick Riordan

“ Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."
Theodore Roosevelt

Cc: mynd44, lalasticlala
Great thoughts speak only to the thoughtful mind, but great actions speak to all mankind.
Theodore Roosevelt

Surely flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

You are a very wise man.
Respect,Sir
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by edoboy33(m): 5:16pm On Sep 18, 2017
ah ah lalasticlala do something LA don't be partial like mynd44
Re: Cacawa2 Misfired: Saraki Is Right, Ipob Proscription Is Illegal! by Dedetwo(m): 5:18pm On Sep 18, 2017
LordAdam:
In June 2013, GEJ rightly declared Boko Haram and Ansaru as terrorist organizations.

But unlike the military did with IPOB, GEJ did not pull that pronouncement out of his hat.

It was based on an Order of the Federal High Court Abuja.



The proscription was pursuant to Section 2 of the TPA.

Furthermore, Section 9 of the TPA does not "makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group," as Cacawa2 wrongly asserted. Only Section 2 accords that authority. Section 9 clearly pertains to an individual rather than an organization.

Nigeria is no longer under military rule, so it is tantamount to usurping of powers for the Nigerian Army to unilaterally declare an organization a terrorist organization, and should be roundly condemned by all well-meaning Nigerians.

IPOB remains a lawful organization until a case calling for its proscription as a terrorist group is filed by the Attorney General of the Federation and a court of competent jurisdiction gives requisite order. Until then, the proclamation by the Nigerian Army is unconstitutional, illegal, and an affront to the rule of law.

-Lord

It is a wasteful of time to discuss Nigeria on the intellectual light. There is absolutely nothing good about the geographical expression.

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