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| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by HappyPagan: 5:33pm On May 30, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Hope you find peace.  |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 6:05pm On May 30, 2019 |
Ubenedictus:How can they not see? Is it not that "refined Christianity" that they practice now? Or do they seriously believe they are practising "traditional Christianity"? They see! They just refuse to admit it! |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 6:09pm On May 30, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:You forgot to include the stupidity of some today that encourages them to drink bleach, and the one that discourages them to bear their cross and to love their neighbours even if they go to a different church to your own as many refuse to do on here! 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by Shepherd00: 9:32pm On May 30, 2019 |
HappyPagan:You have no idea. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by Ubenedictus(m): 12:17pm On Jun 01, 2019 |
budaatum:that sometimes gets me. Of course the Catholic Church has got a lot of things wrong down history, in fact I always wonder how much we are getting wrong now. But it is always easy to scream satanic about things one isn't informed about. That is how I see the issue of the slavery and torture. Medieval courts considered torture OK just as it considered slavery, the church went about unconsciously and sometimes consciously refining culture. In the issue of torture it was a ban on certain types in church court, a ban against the clergy from administering it, making sure a doctor is present to prevent injury and the shedding of blood, and only when guilt has been firmly established... Until today the church now says torture is intrinsically evil.... That is faith refining culture. For slavery where the church allowed indentured servitude and said the slaves had certain rights, it was against chattel slavery for Catholics.... Gradually men of Faith, many non Catholics will totally abolish slavery. We can blame the church for ever allowing indentured servitude or we can look through out history and see that humans have been enslaving each other and recognize that at certain points it was the faith that was condemning the worst impulses of human nature. The humanism we practice today arose from Christian Europe.... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:50pm On Sep 10, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: The crimes committed in the name of Christianity throughout history do not reflect the teachers of Jesus or the Bible. We can't judge a worldview by it's abuse. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 2:35pm On Sep 10, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Yes we can! Especially if that "worldview" clearly states that it is by your fruits that you will be known!
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| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:01am On Sep 11, 2019 |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 9:44am On Sep 11, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:And, in your own opinion, I don't? |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:08am On Sep 11, 2019 |
budaatum: Yes. The mystic jesus you know is not the real Jesus of the Bible.  |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 10:19am On Sep 11, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:So says Olaa. The decider of the Jesus buda knows. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:29am On Sep 11, 2019 |
budaatum: If you truly know the real Jesus of the Bible why haven't you repented and made Him the Lord and personal Saviour of your life?  |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 10:33am On Sep 11, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Do I need to come and bow to you so you know who my personal saviour is? Do you need to see my certificate of repentance? Are you the Lord God Almighty Olaa? |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:44am On Sep 11, 2019 |
budaatum: No, am not the Lord God Almighty, but this is what He has to say: "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh" (Matthew 12:34). Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. The real Jesus of the Bible did not mince words when He condemned the sin of hypocrisy and pride. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 11:19am On Sep 11, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Indeed, out of the abundance of the heart are the fruits produced. So, why don't you yourself answer the question Olaa, how can buda, speak good things? Or are you saying "buda is evil"? |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 1:21pm On Sep 11, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:So, the Jesus, who's Words from the Bible I quote, is mystic, to you?
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| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:08am On Sep 16, 2019 |
budaatum: No. It is rather, a mystery to you. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 2:00pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:
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| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:53pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
budaatum: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why behold the mote that is in you brother's eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye? Or how will you say to your brother, Let me pull out the mote out of your eye; and, behold, a beam is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye" (Matthew 7:1-5). I have noticed that you ignorantly use the depiction of a beam in the eye to accuse me of judging you and for the fact that at least one other person who I expected to know better is being influenced by you to use the same accusation against me. As I had earlier claimed that Jesus and by extension, His Word is a mystery to you, let me quote the above passage to give readers the context from which the Lord Jesus Christ said what you quote upandan. Jesus said in verse Matthew 7:1 that we should not judge our brethren. Who are the brethren referred to in this passage? It is those who are born again and have embarked on this Christian pilgrim journey. Those who have repented of their sins nor committed their lives to the Lord Jesus Christ are condemned already so their no point condemning that which has already been condemned because it is not the purpose of Jesus to condemn sinners when He came down to earth, His purpose was to seek and safe that which was lost. That is why I have not and will not condemn you. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believes on Him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil" (John 3:16-19). Jesus, in Matthew 7:1-5, is warning us not to condemn the actions and motives of others because it only God that has the right to condemn because only He has the right to condemn a person to hell. Jesus has equally commanded us to judge righteously. "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). Jesus wants us to be able to recognise, discern and rebuke false brethren who are encouraging others to sin. It means that we should be in a position to discern what is wrong either in teachings or practice and to avoid or correct them. Only God can condemn (judge) arbitrary but we are expected to discern and evaluate doctrine and practice and also to govern our own actions according to the word of God. Therefore, if the gospel is being preached to you and you feel condemned the right action for you to take is to repent and believe the gospel truth instead of thinking that the preacher is condemning you because as the scriptures puts it, the sinner is already condemned. And for brethren who feel that they are being condemned when they are being corrected should see it as a loving correction and examine their actions. I challenge anyone of you accusing me of practising what I am preaching or correcting them about to bring out the evidence out of the multitudes of post I have made on this forum. If the accusations are genuine I will own up to them and make amends but if you fail to take up this challenge then I say that you should forever hold your peace. |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 4:03pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:It obviously takes a great deal of effort to see the errors of one's ways especially by those who insist in seeing the errors of others! We repeatedly preach the Gospel to you and provide you with evidence but all you do is shout "there is a demon in them", because, in your own opinion, you alone are righteous! But I tell you the truth! Unless Jesus is indeed not Lord, you, OLAADEGBU, will see the error of your ways and turn to serve the Living God through Jesus Christ who is indeed Lord.
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| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by budaatum: 4:06pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Hear ye the Word of the Lord as it cometh out of your own mouth as put there by the Holy Ghost! OLAADEGBU: |
| Re: Jesus Vs Crimes Committed In Jesus' Name by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:58pm On May 15, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: The Crusades and Inquisition are often brought up as an attempt to derail Christianity, when none of the horrors have anything to do with what Jesus himself taught. Here is what Jesus has to say in scripture regarding these crimes that have been perpetrated in His name:  http://reasonsforjesus.com/jesus-vs-crimes-committed-in-jesus-name/ |
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