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The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 1:42am On Mar 04, 2010 |
A showdown between “Yar’adua loyalists” and “pro-Jonathan” ministers was narrowly averted at yesterday’s meeting of the Federal Executive Council when Acting President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan approved a paper submitted to him by the so-called “12 wise men.” A highly informed source told Daily Trust last night that Jonathan’s approval of the “wise men’s” paper formally brought to an end all efforts by his “loyalists” to invoke Section 144 of the Constitution and declare the ailing President Umaru Yar’adua permanently incapacitated. http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15145:how-12-wise-men-averted-cabinet-crisis&catid=46:lead-stories&Itemid=140 |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by agabaI23(m): 1:55am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Jonathan will be a fool if he accepts all these. when I saw Sam Egwu and Aliero there I was sure of what i was gonna see in the text. See intimidation. He should not insist on seeing the president! What a country? |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by sjeezy8: 1:56am On Mar 04, 2010 |
well i hate to say it but all the PDP people agreed to the zoning and therefore are correct in what ever is going on in their party. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by agabaI23(m): 1:58am On Mar 04, 2010 |
I also make bold to say that the constitution of Nigeria supersedes any party's agreement. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by paddylo1(m): 1:59am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Jonathan will be a fool if he accepts all these. No i dont agree with u. . . Lets imagine that yar adua wrote a letter in the first place,and it was torn by turai then we are now back to were we were supposed to be that is yar adua on extended leave,and jonathan in charge. . thats why turai is so jittery,she thought her husband will be removed,instead of just being on leave she made the whole situation worse by tearing the letter Now the second thing is that yaradua may have only 1 month to live,so why flog a dead horse. . i believe he may actually be moved again to get better treatment and there will be clamour for a VP for jonathan so lets wait and see |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 2:01am On Mar 04, 2010 |
agabaI23: It should have been but not when it does not represent the wish of the Nigerian people. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by agabaI23(m): 2:04am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Pharoh: So the PDP agreement represents the wish of the Nigerian people? Why do we have a constitution then? INFS |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by sjeezy8: 2:15am On Mar 04, 2010 |
agabaI23: yea because without it most southerners wont smell the presidency unless theyre a muslim. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 2:24am On Mar 04, 2010 |
agabaI23: In a way it our wish and you just have to find a means to fuse yours into that constitution. Some people already fused sharia law into it while some also fused 13 percent derivation from the resources taken from their back yard. Others are wishing to fuse state police into it and some are fighting to fuse true fiscal federalism into it. So in essence we should stop doing it bit by bit and sit down once in a SNC to input all our wishes in a constitution or we all just walk to our own separate ways. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Beaf: 2:37am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Gra-gra doesn't win anything. In the end, all these people will run back to Jonathan, they have now realised that they can't stop him, next they will realise that they can't control him; in fact, most of the ministers are already done for (with the committees Jonathan set up). |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 2:45am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Beaf: But he has already accepted the agreement with the governors forum and other stakeholders so i guess it is game over. The FEC and NASS has already calmed everything so what else could be up his sleeves?. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by 9ijaprince(m): 3:06am On Mar 04, 2010 |
I think it is a wise and calculative decision on the part of jonathan. He needs time and wisdom to consolidate his position. We all should keep our fingers crossed. I think Dora was over apprehensive over the whole saga. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by paddylo1(m): 3:06am On Mar 04, 2010 |
yea because without it most southerners wont smell the presidency unless theyre a muslim.this is BS. . .A good southern candidate can sweep the 17 southern states and win in plateau,benue,taraba,kaduna(with help of northern VP),and get the required 25% in kogi,adamawa,and Niger can u explain to me how someone like yar a dull would have won a free fair election without Rotational Presidency? He would have only won in his 12 sharia states. . .thats a fact |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Beaf: 3:10am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Pharoh: He doesn't need to have anything up his sleeves, just the strength and willingness to pursue his path after things have calmed down. He has the power (when some degree of calm has returned) to effectively shut down any noise maker like Tanko Yakasai etc without resistance; Ibori will very likely be extradited to the UK (or be too busy fighting for his life); he doesn't have to consult the FEC, because he has set up parallel commitees (who are also looking into contracts awarded by FEC members in the past 100+ days); international agreements have been reached to investigate troublemakers, their sources of money and to trace the conduits of those funds to foreign banks. Don't forget that it took OBJ one month as an ex-soldier to reshuffle the army. Winning some calm is Jonathans first victory, we can now move forward gradually. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by 9ijaprince(m): 3:18am On Mar 04, 2010 |
@Beaf: i agree with you. This is time for him to settle down and work. Yar'adua is a closed chapter. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Onlytruth(m): 3:20am On Mar 04, 2010 |
I still say that this battle is Jonathan's to lose. All he needs is nerves of steal and he can do A LOT between now and next year. His worst enemy is fear! Yes, it is wise to lie low for now, but he has to get tough mentally eventually. He is a man of destiny and he can do a lot to change Nigeria's history. He has international goodwill and local "condescension" -these cabal members think he is dumb, but there lies his advantage. I won't say more than that. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 3:23am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Beaf: I really hope things goes as you have just highlighted but in all these i still believe he needs a considerable home support. He needs support from his party as well as the opposition parties, from the army, governors, national assembly, the masses, students, labor unions and all other interest groups. But i am not seeing all these right now judging from the present situation which makes it look like a one man army with little support. I just hope when he starts acting finally these needed support will rise to the occasion and in terms of dealing with the military i think he really needs the help of OBJ or former retired personel's from the south. I don't think a president without a military background should be the C-in-C of an undisciplined/politicized army like that of Nigeria. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 3:26am On Mar 04, 2010 |
paddy_lo: Very brilliant but it will never be possible to achieve that. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Beaf: 3:32am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Pharoh: Even if things don't work to that plan, the fight is still Jonathans to lose. The buck stops with him, no excuses. For now, he seems to have laid his groundwork quite well. The army is the greatest threat, but he can checkmate any ambitious guys with careful planning and ruthlessness (let nobody dream that he can't be ruthless, all Alams supporting Bayelsa ex-commissioners know the drill). |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by naijaking1: 4:22am On Mar 04, 2010 |
OBJ, OBJ, OBJ, where art thou? |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Nobody: 4:34am On Mar 04, 2010 |
That Professor Dora Akunyii must be called to order for running a campaign against the president and his family, “thus embarrassing the government of which she is supposed to be the spokesperson.” Don't know what these people take us for. One would think the embarrassment started because 'Dora talked'. After the missing of the president for months and making a mockery of the nation, Dora's comments should be like a baby's touch. Flexing muscles for unnecessary things, eeediots. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by nethacker(m): 4:51am On Mar 04, 2010 |
so happy i will be if he just wake up overnyt and introduce a JJRawlings dosage Heaven knws dat PDP will nvr win come 2011, |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 04, 2010 |
naijaking1: OBJ has tacitly withdrawn from this tragicomedy because his arch-enemy TY Danjuma has been drafted behind Jonathan. OBJ made a lot of enemies during his tenure & the North hate him with passion because he refused taking orders from them. However it eventually shapes out, Turai & her cabal will still have access to contracts & such stuff, up till 2011 (& possibly beyond, if she can manage to install one of her sons-in-law as president). And nobody is going to probe them for stealing and all the other excesses. If I read this situation right, Yar'Adua has never really functioned as president of this country, from day one. He has been too ill, fighting to stay alive. A select caucus of peeps very close to him have been running this country since 2007. Sad, isn't it? |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by DisGuy: 9:44am On Mar 04, 2010 |
paddy_lo: dont you just love us nigerians going with the media script? what letter did turai tear up? was there really a letter? the media said the PA to the president was the one that got a letter and up till now there no letter, so what letter?? the guy passed out before being flown out, so who wrote this letter? |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Pharoh: 9:55am On Mar 04, 2010 |
Beaf: The army has always been and will always to me be the number one threat from the north. I really hope things play out well for him at the end of the day. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Nobody: 11:54am On Mar 04, 2010 |
The army is not coming back. But I feel Jonathan should retrench the current set of Army Chiefs. Just to prove a point. They are already compromised by the 'cabal' anyway. With TY Danjuma covering his back he should be able to do that, if he has just one atom of courage left in his henpecked body. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by jimmysho(m): 12:59pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
they won battle not the war. there are clear cut differences |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Seun(m): 7:08pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
The imaginary cabal strikes again. And yet we don't know any of the members. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Boboribo: 9:17pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
When OBJ was sworn in 1999, the first thing he did was to RETIRE ALL military officers who had held political appointments from 1983 till 1999. Hell was not let loose. Simply dissolving FEC which is largely populated by self seeking politicians, Jonah cannot find the courage to do it. How can you continually wine and dine with disloyal ministers and expect all to be well? The tide will soon turn against Jonah except he returns back to the Fish' belly. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Fhemmmy: 9:41pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
As long as Jonathan remain a PDP man, he is obliged to it |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Jaylon(m): 9:42pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
I won't say the cabal has won. The demands they made were fairly reasonable IMO. People, Jonathan has to thread softly because Yar'adua is still alive and remember he is president in an acting capacity. I believe the troop buildup around abuja and aso rock (without his knowledge) should be looked into and if possible, heads should roll. But it cannot be done in a haste. Jonathan needs to let the unruly northern elements understand that he is not anti-yar'adua and at the same time, assert himself by putting his foot on the ground. He has already shown he is up the task by quickly replacing Aondoakaa as AGF. As someone has stated, too much gra gra is not the solution to this fuming situation. |
Re: The Cabal Has Finally Won The Battle. by Fhemmmy: 9:44pm On Mar 04, 2010 |
Jaylon: True Dat |
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