UnchangeableGod:
Since my people and yours hate each other so much, does it make sense to continue spending resources to stay by force with people who mutually hate each other? All Igbo's and others are saying is let us go peacefully. It is you who hate us yet do not want us to go that are calling for trouble and war perhaps because you have the advantage of the armed forces for now. Hmmmmm! Don't support evil so that......... God bless you.

Kazim88:
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I use to believe that wisdom comes with age but I was wrong

Buhari came out to threaten and intimidate his so called citizen with war, to force them to drop their inalienable right to self-determination

Nigeria Civil War was Genocide event in which all participants should be seriously ashamed of..

Even Britain that were the sole benefactor of the war have since realise their error.

The Civil War still remain an event which Nigeria is yet to heal from... Using it to buttress your hate and dissent is nothing but political and moral folly.

The war this time would be fierce, Not with bullets. It would be longer until Victory is won.

Buhari would soon realise... Pen is powerful than bullet.

And this war "re-run" of bullet he and his Co Night walkers are clamouring for would be fought definitely at right time....

Kazim88:


Only time would tell.

The law does not punish for what you "say" but what you "do"...

Buhari did hate crime against a British Citizen... UK has already enquire of Kanu Status....

Hope UK is a legal entity?

speedyGonzales:
Any thing created by man can be destroyed by another man. All men will die but ideas live on after dead men. A house that is not structurally sound needs to be restructured and reinforced but what the politicians [northerners especially] are doing is painting the building. Karma is a bitch, no one will rule for ever and ever. Other people will eventually get their turn and the tribalism seeds you sow today will comeback to hunt you!!!

Throwback:


Is there a law that says UK cannot leave a mere regional association?

Does US not routinely back out of accords?

Did Nigeria not recently withdrew its membership from some global associations?

As for Scotland, was it not the Scottish political leadership that won the right to have a referendum to exit the UK, which their own citizens rejected at the vote?

So why is a mere pressure group now turned terrorist organization, demanding for referendum?

Who are they and who do they lawfully and democratically represent according to our constitution?

If it took regional governments in Europe to be demanding for secession by referendum legally in Scotland, and illegally in Catalonia and Kurdish Iraq, what makes you think a mere pressure group is up to the task in Nigeria where the region under discussion has an existing recognised democratic and constitutional leadership and representation?

I always ask you this question hoping you can appreciate rational submissions, and for once accept that IPOB had no business with Nigeria, but with the regional leadership of SouthEast, who would then engage Nigeria politically since there is no existing constitutional provision for secession.

That you and others like you, who are obviously educated and conversant with world politics, would refuse to own up to certain universal truths, is what truly amazes me.

You keep on alluding to UN's right to self determination, but do not know how ambiguous that is.

Is that same UN blind to the Catalonian and Kurdish right to self determination?
If that rule was as simple as you think it is, then every local government in Nigeria has the right to self determination.

Every Congressional district in the USA have the right to self determination, irrespective of their republic's constitution. Every of the 96 political departments of France have a right to self determination, irrespective of their republic's constitution.

Can the world or UN handle such a fractured world if their self determination rights law was so applicable with every family that wants to form its own country?

attackgat:


You answered your iwn question with the above. A mere pressure group can make any demands it wants on government. It is not new, other pressure groups such the NLC and NANS have done so in the past.

What is important is if the pressure group is making the demand legally and without "organised violence"

Take IPOB for example, it wants a referendum conducted in the SE/SS geopolitical zone. Chapter 4 of the constitution allows everyone freedom of association, movement, expression and belief. IPOB is allowed to demand referendum, agitate, protest and even believe in Biafra or the break up of Nigeria as long as the do not use violence to achieve their aim. They do not have to be a political force.

The question is, has IPOB used violence in its agitation to achieve Biafra ir a referendum for Biafra? No they have not. Clashes between civilians and Police/Army is a regular thing that occurs all over the world. Even the Police and Army have been known to clash from time to time. But having the occassional clash here and there is not enough to label any group as terrorists.

Having clash does not make an organisation violent, what makes an organisation violent is if they use violence to achieve their aim even when there is no clash.

IPOB, has not used violence for its aims, they dont carry arms and they have not killed or touched anyone.

They are entitled to make any demands they want, nobody said that the government must grant their demands, but they have the right to make demands.

Yyeske:
Not again, you said IPOB wants a referendum in SE and SS. Did they beg you for a referendum? Why not go conduct the referendum among IPOB terrorists or is anyone holding you back?
Quote what part of the Nigerian constitution that says anything about referendum or secession.
Maybe you just inserted it this night but cite it for all to see

madridguy:
Recent calls on re-structuring, quite proper in a legitimate debate, has let in highly irresponsible groups to call for dismemberment of the country.

@ bolded: Perfect said.

attackgat:


Who is they? Even the first Republic of Biafra comprised most of what you are calling "SS".

Restructuring is not in constitution, it does not mean that many people are not agitating for it.

Referendum may not be in the constitution, it does not mean that IPOB cannot agitate for it.

Yyeske:
Buhari at the Hague? You wish. Nnamdi will be tried there soon for hate speeches.
Some weeks back, Uche Mefor on a live radio programme called a lawyer with the ICC if Biafra can petition it, the lawyer told him point blank that Biafra and IPOB are not recognized and can't file anything, only Nigeria which is a recognized entity can do that on behalf of Biafra or IPOB.
You should know Nigeria would petition in the negative.
Nnamdi kanu must face the ICC soon

CrtlAltDel:

Choi…. ICC wicked….. Make the Biafrans call Bruce Fein to send letter to UN or US petitioning ICC for such response
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Kazim88:


Nigeria Military that is cowardly denying their criminal actions...

Buratai Jail is certain.

UnchangeableGod:
Since my people and yours hate each other so much, does it make sense to continue spending resources to stay by force with people who mutually hate each other? All Igbo's and others are saying is let us go peacefully. It is you who hate us yet do not want us to go that are calling for trouble and war perhaps because you have the advantage of the armed forces for now. Hmmmmm! Don't support evil so that......... God bless you.

kp3tech:


The foolish one are actually hailing the old ones utterances.

Taking about war and rerun now is not wise.

No matter the call for Biafra... War or threat of war is not the answer.

If the oblige him... Do Buhari know how the war would play out.. Nobody knows.

If the riddicule his call and refuse to oblige him... Would he commit genocide.

This is speech is even worse than 97% and 5%.

Throwback:
You people never tire?

If for nothing, don't you tire of the self inflicted misery?

What right do you keep yapping about that your elected representatives have not deemed fit to request for?

A right that is not constitutional and that is equally berated by UN, US, EU, UK, France and Germany within their own sovereign territories and continent?

Mister man, shut up or pursue the constitutional change that you want using the globally recognised parliamentary channels.

I wish you best of luck securing political victory in the legislature.

As for regretting the civil war self destruction, Ojukwu fed his family well but failed to secure food for his already failed nation.

attackgat:


Who is they? Even the first Republic of Biafra comprised most of what you are calling "SS".

Restructuring is not in constitution, it does not mean that many people are not agitating for it.

Referendum may not be in the constitution, it does not mean that IPOB cannot agitate for it.

Yyeske:
Pray tell, how many times have you personally voted for an Igbo president in all elections we've had since 1999?

eodavids:


If you are a patriotic Nigerian, you must speak the truth.
Buhari has not spoken to Ndigbo as if he considers them as fellow citizens among whom he has supporter too.
He spoke as if all Igbos are nothing but his conquered enemies who must stay down or, if they dare to raise their head, he will crush them with the military might.

He had never sought to speak with the agitators or even set a panel to hear them.

Sending the military to IPOB even when Kanu was due to return to court soon, and even as voices from both Igbos and non-Igbos were calling for the revocation of Kanu's bail, goes to show that Buhari prefers military solution to judicial solution on IPOB/Biafra issues.

BUT HERE IS MY FEAR: THAT BUHARI MAY INVENTUALLY UNITE ALL BIAFRANS (IGBOS AND NON-IGBOS) TO USE EVERYTHING THEY'VE GOT TO ACHIEVE BIAFRA. this is what Kanu wants. Patriotic Igbos do not want it now, but Buhari is pushing it to that with every of his moves.

EponOjuku:


Mention one African leader indicted in the Hague.

They would kill millions of you again and nothing would happen. Keep typing nonsense on Nairaland.

speedyGonzales:

You are worried about Igbos but Igbos are not the people you should be worried about! Igbo leaders are easily bought... but other people are watching and biding their time! It is clear that the Northerners don't care about Nigeria or other people within it. They exploit everybody else...

GavelSlam:


Maybe he should also speak to the TIV or that one no concern you?

He should look for the Igbiras too, seek the eguns, oh I forgot about the Bansara people and Boki?

There are lots of indigenous people in Nigeria why should he treat Igbos special.

ayokellany:


God bless you as well, read and understand. Igbo can go as far as hell for all I care I am not just interested in fighting that cause for them nor will I be hoodwinked into supporting their fight or cause. Igbo should do quick and leave if they need the help of other tribes to secure Biafra they should reach out in respectful and polite manner not think they can cajole others to support or fight their fight of independence for them.

efighter:


The lion king has spoken, if you do anyhow, you will see anyhow. The python dance was introduction, next will be python twerk.