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Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by olaolutreasure(m): 9:26pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
SweetBoyFriend:'A fool says in his heart, There is no God...' Psalm 14:1 SweetBoyFriend, have you ever wondered, with your believe, there is a sense of lack of peace in your heart? You try arguing so that you can feel a depth of relief that you do not need God neither try believing in His existence. You are an atheist, that's right. But failing to believe in God is not because of your population of poppycock nitty-witty terminologies combined together, but because there is anger in the corner of your heart towards this 'Big Daddy on a golden throne above the sky' perhaps you feel like you will be exposed if you try believing Him or whatever it may be. But know this, you and other atheists of your group know that there is a thirst in your heart that knowledge and logics has not solved. You want answer? That's GOD 1 Like |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by akintom(m): 9:31pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
CeterisXVII:may FSM baptise you into the mystery of Reason and intelligence. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Abunlimited: 9:51pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
CeoNewshelm: |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Nobody: 10:08pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: they definitely do not have any idea about it, it all indoctrination and it's one spell that is had to break. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by titiloyeblog: 10:19pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
goodnews |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by MadCow1: 10:46pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
mykh01: Thanks for the compliments Sir.. However Atheism needs no defence. It's not a belief system. There is no burden of proof on an Atheist. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by MadCow1: 10:49pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
Honour2: "The God of Israel... " That is something I have never quite understood either.. You say the God you worship created the entire world and it's content yet he is an Israeli, has a lot of Jewish names, impregnated a Jewish undergaed girl, had a Jewish Son, says for you to make his floating paradise you must love Israel (even if you are a Palestinian )... How did God end up being Israeli? Arrogant generation!? Cos we ask for proof? You mean you wouldn't like to have proof? If you had a chance to finally see God live, wouldn't you jump at it? So why do you consider me arrogant for asking questions you have been brainwashed and taught not to ask? Your God is a figment of your imagination if you cant prove it.. If you could prove he existed, you wouldn't need to keep beating around the Bush. 1 Like |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by AlwaysUltraPad: 10:58pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
SalamRushdie:brilliant. 1 Like |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Zodiac61(m): 12:09am On Oct 08, 2017 |
CeoNewshelm:Liar, liar, pants on fire. Turbulence- the man takes us for fools. I wonder what the pilots were doing when jesus was at the controls. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by milky3(f): 12:22am On Oct 08, 2017 |
God of Vengeance. ..you are great |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by rhektor(m): 5:12am On Oct 08, 2017 |
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Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by richardoz(m): 8:00am On Oct 08, 2017 |
Saw some comments here and I felt for some people! Nobody compels you to believe in God if you are not a believer but why are you badmouthing someone who believes his creator saved him! No matter the sophistication of that machine or the first-class technology of it ; if you won't be saved from an accident you won't! I once heard a medical doctor flied 12 world best doctors from Overseas to help him rescue his pregnant sister that had complications to have a safe delivery, the lady still didn't survive! So what are we saying? God surpasses us all! whether you believe in his existence or not! |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by mykh01(m): 8:03am On Oct 08, 2017 |
MadCow1:You rest your argument on empirical fact, as a philosophy student am sure that there is more to seeing than it meet the eyes. I would have love to you to tackle the question on the existence of mind. Moreover, your claim that atheism needs no defence is not tenable. Atheist have always put up rational, empirical or scientific argument in negating the existence of a supreme being, which is usually held by the religionist. I will like you to put up a defence for these arguments that follows. 1. The concept God is universal among humanity, irrespective of there geographical location, cultural belief, race, colour of skin among others. What account for the universality of a concept that atheist belief to false. In my opinion, falsifying a claim because it is popular is not enough to justify the popularity and universality of God. 2. With my little knowledge of the scientific world, scientists over the ages as made ground breaking record in different phase of reality, but are yet to unravel the misery of creation, Darwinian evolution theory in my opinion raise more questions than it tends to answer. The point here is that, different cultures of the world have there unique creation stories which are closely tied with a supreme existent who overseer the duty of creation or delegate authority to smaller gods it is the case in the Yoruba creation story likewise in the Jewish account among others. I agree, those myth might not account for the exact record of how reality came into existence, but science either as not proffer a better explanation. Which logical explanation can you offer for the consistent, view of a supreme being in those world views? am sure we cant get to a conclusion, but i will like to learn from you. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Sapiosexuality(m): 1:04pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:I can't remember. But I think you are mistaken my comment. My post is not an indictment on Christianity but on how poorly Christians understand Christianity. It is not an insult to Christianity but an erroneous glorification of this current world considering what is store for the believers. That's where I am coming from. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by bejeria101(m): 3:18pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
If anything had happend to him,the children of nl wld celebrate it. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Maximus85(m): 3:44pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
SweetBoyFriend: You're fool. And your parents must have wasted their sweat on you. Go read the Bible before you come taking like an empty headed bastard. Adam and Eve had more than two children. Fool. I can see why your life is so miserable. Ode oponu oshi |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Habyz(m): 4:46pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:Suicide bombers don't show faith , what they show is foolishness, Islam doesn't preach hate against people or other religions. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Sapiosexuality(m): 4:49pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
Habyz:Every religion tacitly preaches hate against other religions but not all religions preach hate against people of other religions. Don't make me talk about Islam. 2 Likes |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by MadCow1: 5:14pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
mykh01: Still with the shuffle Bro.. This dance has no end. Like I said, the onus is not on the Atheists to disprove the non-existence of something Theists "BELIEVE" (Not KNOW) it exists. If you say you have a Car, the onus is not on me to prove you don't, it's on you to show us you do have one because that is your claim. So until there is tangible and verifiable proof of God's existence, Theists will always need to keep doing the shuffle to skirt past the matter of proof. You talk about God being a Universal concept. I wonder if you realise what the word "concept" means.. For one thing, it means an 'idea'. And that I can never deny you. All that God really is, is an Idea.. Ideas are not tangible things until you put in work to bring an idea into reality... And speaking of universal concepts "once upon a time, it was a universally accepted concept that the earth was flat".. Second point is yet another dud. Your first mistake is thinking Science claims to have it all figured out. Science puts the world at about 4.5 - 5 Billion years old. How old is the Darwainian theory? Have you even bothered to sit and understand Darwin's theory? Like have it broken down in simple English? Trust me, if you can only have understood where Darwin's theory came from, you may have chosen to pursue a career in evolutionary science. Now let me put your mind to rest, Science isn't LAW. Science have never claimed to have figured it all out. That's why in Science, what you have are mostly Theorems like Relativity, evolution, gravitation, e.t.c.. The reason they are theorems and not Laws is because as further research continues, they are subject to change the more we learn about those subjects. If you dig back into science and research it well, you will see that these theories have been changing and evolving over time. It's easier to just sit somewhere and go "Hey, this whole world is very complex so someone in the sky must have created it" and just keep moving. But when you do that, all you will ever have is "BELIEF" not "KNOWLEDGE". That's why you can't prove anything. That's why Theists dread the question about proof. That's why you know nobody that has been to heaven. That's why you do not know the location of hell. That's why you can't prove that Angels are human like creatures with wings. That's why you don't know the complexion of God because he is a concept. That's why religion forbids you from asking question (basically barred from researching any thing). That's why you heard stories about Jonah being swallowed and living inside a fishes belly for 3 days and coming out alive and you have never thought that was ridiculous but you can tell a child that Santa Claus is not real. Like I said before, Atheists have no burden of proof. If God is a largely accepted concept, maybe it's a herd mentality thing. Scientists have never been in the majority at any point in human existence. Your question on the existence of the mind is not worth going into because the mind is intangible. Next thing you will go into is dreams. I have walked that path before. God is it is preached and portrayed in the Bible is not intangible. He had conversations with Satan. He use to fellowship with Adam and Eve every other evening. He wrote commandments on mountain stones. He threw down food from heaven. He met face to face with Moses. So please don't try to do the kind shuffle with me.. I am an Engineer, it wouldn't work with me. No proof = Non existence. The onus is on you. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Habyz(m): 5:24pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:It all boils down to the point of view of individuals and most importantly the level of knowledge. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Sapiosexuality(m): 5:56pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
Habyz:Okay. I'm not in the mood to talk about religions. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Habyz(m): 6:02pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:Okay, I respect your decision. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Dandiaz72(m): 8:22pm On Oct 08, 2017 |
[quote author=SweetBoyFriend post=61192205] Dummy, Your non existent imaginary God didn't save you from planecrash, the sophisticated technology in your Gulfstream Jet did He saved you from planecrash but allows the rest of his children die of cancer and other diseases here on earth because you're so special ?? I bet that same God was sitting up in the clouds in his Mansion watching 60 of his beloved children get slaughtered last week in Las Vegas Religion is the biggest scam in the history of mankind[/quoteYour opinion though... Thank God it can't move a chair |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by okoliexpress: 11:08am On Oct 09, 2017 |
i feel sorry for you. SalamRushdie: |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by SweetBoyFriend(m): 5:51pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
Maximus85: Read the Bible ?? You mean the story book ?? Adam and Eve had more than 2 children and how did the world get populated with just 1 family ?? I'm waiting for your stupid answer My life is miserable ?? I have a company with 12 employees at the age of 26, if my life is miserable, how's your father's life who's a bus driver ?? |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by SweetBoyFriend(m): 5:53pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
olaolutreasure: Blah blah blah blah says the ignorant monkey that has been brainwashed by the white man to believe that a dummy lives in the clouds |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by SweetBoyFriend(m): 5:53pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
smato: Doomed mentally unstable rat |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Maximus85(m): 7:14pm On Oct 09, 2017 |
SweetBoyFriend: You don't have to be this stupid, you know? And with your stupid mentality, I'm sure you don't have a human father. Maybe an Ape gave birth to you as your theory goes. An Indian hemp dealer can have 200 employees even at 18. So shut your trap. |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by Ctrlsolutn: 1:47am On Oct 10, 2017 |
God is a spirit. There is more to life than we think or understand. Many of us Christians and none alike know of the son of God 'the Lord Jesus christ' but knew little or nothing abt who God himself really is. That guy bragging abt the expertise of the designers n engineers of that G550 jet, or trying to make it look as if those engineers are superior to the almighty God should RESEARCH WHAT RENOWNED SCIENTISTS HAD TO SAY ABT THE EXISTENCE OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD. Believers n unbelievers wl always debate n argue the existence of God whilst the omnipotent, omniscience n omnipresent remains in between. Don't let those you see suffering or the thousands that sank with the titanic ship ever make you think that God is not merciful or doesn't exist bcoz YOU AND I KNOW JUST LITTLE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, HOW WE CAME , HOW GOD SEES US AND WHAT HAPPENS/HOW WE CONTINUE AFTER OUR SOJOURN ON PLANET EARTH. "If there's no room or basis for arguments abt the existence of God then there's no God" "A fool wl most likely continue to say THERE'S NO GOD UNTIL HE'S UNABLE TO SAY THAT AGAIN" LOL, what happened? The God he never believed his existence has allowed his ignorance to slowly take care of him. It is wise for a man to know the whole duty of man. May akanuche fall on you all wit d help of d proverbs of d wisest man that ever lived! |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by SweetBoyFriend(m): 4:12am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Maximus85: But your father couldn't achieve the fit |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by MadCow1: 4:53am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Ctrlsolutn: God is a spirit you said.. Meaning you have never seen him nor heard him so technically he does not exist.. Now if God is a spirit like you said, then how was he able to meet with Adam and Eve or Meet Moses face to face? Then in your third paragraph you said "Many of us Christians and non alike KNOW of the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ"... I'm sorry but you seem to have no clue what the word "KNOW" means which comes from "KNOWLEDGE".. We have heard about him, read about him, but do we KNOW him? Bleep No!!! Then you talk about researching what renowned scientists have said about the existence of God and yet failed to cite any.. I would like for you to name the renowned scientists and their quotes and let's see what we can learn from them. No body argues about the existence or lack thereof of a God.. You Theists say there is one, we Atheists say Prove it. Not much of an arguement there. If someone came to you today and says Santa Clause is real, wouldn't you ask for proof? What was that whole line about the Titanic about again? A boat hit an Ice berg and sank killing many because adequate life boats and supplies for such eventuality were not provided. Is that proof your God exists? If so how? Yes we know little about our origins.. Whilst others have put in their time and efforts to researching and finding out how it all started, you chose to follow the easiest part and say we were created by a God who is Jewish in origin or extremely partial to the Jews who created everything in 6 Days, created only 1 jewish man and 1 Jewish woman who populated the entire world (including all races) which he then wiped out at some point in history with a great flood and yet another jewish family (Noah) again proceed to procreate and fill up the world for a second time running. Then he goes on to impregnate a Jewish underage Virgin Girl (Yeah!! Mary was a teenager), she gives birth to his Child whose he then sets up to get killed so he can forgive humans for Sins that he created in the first place.. Whilst others were busy researching into genetics and more you are busy believing in fictitious things such as if you give your Pastor Money every Sunday and 10% of every income you make, jump around sing and clap praises to him, his son and his spirit, read srories of his heroics and destructiveness from ancient texts (the Bible) written by uneducated Normads and shepherds, and then if you kneel and soliloquise (pray) and talk in gibberish language (speaking in tongues) that means fhuck all in all established languages of the world, your imaginary Jewish Spirit Creator in the Sky will be very happy, grant you Goodluck and fortunes here on earth and give you a Mansion in Heaven with streets paved with Gold where you will live forever and spend eternity parsing your spirit Jew God and stroking his rather fragile ego. Please correct me if I got any part wrong. I don't want to say you are stupiid, but you sure as hell don't make good use of your brains abilities. Young Man, do not use the words Akonuche (Wisdom) when speaking such foolishness like religion. Most especially one you can't even properly defend expect via making subtle threats to those who dare to question your outlandish claims. 2 facts are known, life and death. Just because you see the world as overly complex does not make it okay for you to chose the path of ignorance. If only people like you existed, Malaria would still be a killer disease because you would still attribute it to a curse from your imaginary friend. Free yourself from foolishness my friend.. A flying Aircraft is a great mystery.. You can chose to believe your imaginary friend in the sky is responsible for it flying or you can choose to get off your ass and go research on physics.. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God Saved Oyedepo From Plane Crash by segunojo866: 9:07am On Oct 10, 2017 |
MadCow1:anything you read in that Bible is bullshit and other stupid books like the Quran and Stephen Hawking book of evolution is another rubbish. No man and i repeat again, No man has proven that God exists or doesn't exist. I was an atheist before just like you but discovered that atheism can't explain anything to me about creation. Do you believe we came from apes? That theory is so irrational and lacks credibility. Welcome to the agnostic article (Albert Einstein) |
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