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Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 8:47am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:brother, you need to reduce your stress level...is there anything we can share? |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 8:52am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Well, we can take things step by step back from the origin of life, or who knows suggest...I'm heart is a bit foggy |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 8:58am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:you aren't confused bro. May be you do not how to reply your curious heart. Who knows, we may have solutions to your curious heart... We can have a discussion... Or is it private? |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 9:07am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:Red was the only one who questioned why the bad piggies left their home to come party with the birds. But he was kind of like an outsider because he was prone to anger and the other birds didn't think it was normal to angry. Made them gullible. So you, clever with a temper just like red. And yeah, that's the movie...stupid me, asking for the title. Duh!! If you enjoyed that, then you should see Hitman's Bodyguard(Ryan Reynolds and Samuel L Jackson) and also Kingsman and the sequel Kingsman Golden Circle (and no, not the condom before you go there ). 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 9:09am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: I don't know jare. I really don't know...I earned a tag, isn't that why a dude is coming for me, when one is trying to forget a -ve experience... Anyways, let's talk about Depression and Anger within the context of relationships...How to fix this " eater " up... Kindly share insights |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 9:12am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: I need someone to speak to my parched heart brov...Care to speak about Depression and Anger Management, what insights can you share, if one has an extremely painful experience but the pains from the experience remains even after a long time..what do you think ? |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 9:15am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:Talking about grounded, the said person keeps My education well rounded. Here is what has been dug up on you tube and being digested as a little morning pick me up before heading out on his daily adventures. I kind of think it has a certain relevance to this discussion. Kind of brings into perspective when people say "I believe" how insignificant that belief is in the face of what is shown to exist and the vastness of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isppUA0MZmw 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 9:50am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Lets start from the beginning, scientific evidence proved that millions of years back, shortly before/after the world was formed, what was prevalent was just two key elements, Hydrogen 92%, and Helium 8%...But Why these two? By understanding the products of the reaction,we can illustrate the events that took place...and why i say it all began with Hydrogen, as simplistic as it may seem...but there are characteristics of this element that shares oneness with a being, which is the number 1, the number of proton, neutron,electron, the " ONE " in Hydrogen should be examined closely and from here we can continue our probe, i'll like to continue, but want us to stay on this for a while before we continue... Now, we have been told every form of life began with a few numbers, and then by automation multiplication of life forms continued, this implies that everything had a simplistic beginning, and this further explains whatever took place at the beginning must start from the simplest of form, i.e. Hydrogen in the case of an element, meaning the process took cognizance of simplistic processes to set a cause of action into effect. Suffice to say, using an Uranium of elements with many number of electrons wouldn't work, because by virtue of these processes everything needed to have a simple beginning and then expand ( Fission ) to become much larger things. I.e. everything begins with a seed, thus the characteristic of the ( if you'll agree, creator was what by far took effect here, in which i'll call, alpha, the first, also Hydrogen ). Now i started with hydrogen because it is extremely chemically stable, in chemistry, we'll understand that because of the relative stability of the nuclei of this element, it would require extreme force to set the nuclei apart and once this is achieved, it creates a series of spontaneous and continuous chain reactions that sets off other products that continue to react with themselves and this continuous and massive reactions was the beginning of all things... But why Hydrogen? Hydrogen is so chemically stable as my fellow scientists will agree that breaking or infusing its sub-components to become one, requires what in science is called the energy of the sun... It is too difficult to do that over 60 years of scientific research has not been able to fuse.. Look to the stars, planetary bodies, planetary formation, this same reactions is producing new plants, galaxies, and guess what the dominant element that has been observed in them is? Hydrogen....So, on paper research scitentist will tell you just like i am how by reacting, either breaking or combining its sub atomic parties can create atleast 80% of the elements in the world today, look for a radioactive delay illustration of Hydrogen for reference |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:00am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:haa.....No relationshilp is as smooth as we want....all what we need to do is to consolidate each other by appreciating our subjective views... Being in a relationship with someone going through a depressed or anger state can be very intense and challenging. For us to appereciate each orther, we need to understand how depression works and which type of depression your partner has. People with depression have a tendency to over react and feel overwhelmed by them. Do your best not to do anything which can hurt them,......they will not blame you but themselves and fall deeper in the pit of depression. The person going through depression and anger sometimes feel isolating themselves at times. live the person to be with his or her thoughts and after some time, you can ask them about what he was pondering over. Don’t force it if they don’t tell you. The Royal key cherished a depress fellow and never let herbor him forget how much you admire him and likewise ensure the depression does not change the love for her i am not married yet....that journey is still far for me....though i do watch some interesting marriage and relationship counseling videos.... I will try and post you some of them... Buo d |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:02am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Hahahaha, thanks i can relate with some of the points clearly...You made me laugh this morning |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:07am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:let's agentofAllah take it from here... I am not a scientist... I am still a student of the discipline....doing self research.... ButterflylIon you are also invited... Am active, when it comes to logic or historical reasoning.... |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 10:08am On Oct 15, 2017 |
shaybebaby:Wow! That's a formidable reputation to carry...I mean, this guy has a billion dollar franchise created just for him! I wish to someday be just like him! And yeah, that's the movie...stupid me, asking for the title. Duh!!Your overexposure to Generation Z craze is making you forget yua roots! If you enjoyed that, then you should see Hitman's Bodyguard(Ryan Reynolds and Samuel L Jackson) and also Kingsman and the sequel Kingsman Golden Circle (and no, not the condom before you go there ).Thanks for the recommendations. Seen Hitman's bodyguard and Kingsman...although, didn't know that latter has a sequel, so added on my to-watch list. That Golden Circle reference though, wicked! At the peak of its popularity on TV ads, I saw it as nothing more than discoloured balloon, so thank you very much for ruining my childhood memories. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:11am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:go ahead bro |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 15, 2017 |
Welcome to the coolest club of the intellectuals Ann, hope you enjoy the serenity and brotherliness that flows here... |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:20am On Oct 15, 2017 |
Guys, ladies, lets talk about depression and anger, anyone experienced deep hurt? How did you move past it ? |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:23am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: You're a scientist then, logically analyse the points i raised and tell me what you feel..Critic and analyze them objectively and lets reason together |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Humanistme: 10:38am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig: dude you clearly have a problem. but nvm |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:41am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:let me send you some video .....they are controversial.... You will find in interesting and challenging at the same time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFxzLIt5PYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULT3cP88Kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULT3cP88Kk You will love the heated discussion. |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:43am On Oct 15, 2017 |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 10:49am On Oct 15, 2017 |
supersystemsnig:Try to comment on the video discussion here... |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 10:50am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: ok, but when i'm done watching 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by akintom(m): 11:11am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Likewise, your parents required their parents to have existed. Your parents aren't your EXTERNAL cause, they're your REPRODUCTIVE cause. External cause, is a mythological gist of cosmology of different cultures of the world. The traditional religion of Jews (Judeo-Christianity) inclusive. External cause assumption, is a faulty premise, that emanated from asking the "who", instead of "how" life began. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 11:16am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:Just resetting them memories. you are very welcome. The sequel released about a month ago, Elton (yeah, the real one) was featured in it and boy, was he a hoot. After generation Z, what's the next one to be called? We've reached the end of the alphabets. |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 11:25am On Oct 15, 2017 |
akintom:both my parent and me happens to be contingent. Which is the basic of this argument... My parent existence isn't neccasry and likewise me...both of us happen to exist just by chance. My parent are external yes if they are not there, i will not be here... They are my reproductive cause...yes..through them i was born... This argument isn't judeo- christain..... It is invented by a Muslim philosopher.... name Avicenna.... In fact he is not arguing from cosmological veiw.....read my op....to get the contrast Who before how should start the premises and not how before who....that is more logical... You have to know it before you can proof it.. I |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 11:31am On Oct 15, 2017 |
shaybebaby:Nothing like a dose of perspective to put us in our non-place! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 11:42am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:Amen to that. |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by AgentOfAllah: 11:43am On Oct 15, 2017 |
shaybebaby: It is appropriate that the Donald came right in the nick of time then, coz his impending nuclear apocalypse will spare us the need to invent a new letter for the generational alphabet, so sleep easy...or don't (not sure which one bothers you more)! 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 11:56am On Oct 15, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:It ain't happening. One of them will be gone long before it happens. But if it does, I can always run back to my continent(we don't have any nukes do we?) and watch from the side lines phcn permitting sipping tepid soaked garri. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by akintom(m): 11:58am On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Hmmmmm..... If you wake up one morning, you stepped out of your room, and you found yourself at the gate of Whitehouse in W/DC. Haven slept off in your room here in Nigeria, the night before. 1. Your question will be WHO made this happened? Or 2. HOW did this happen? 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by shaybebaby(f): 12:08pm On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx:When you ask" who", you are already limiting the possible lines of enquiry. Kind of like a house fire, we know it is a fire. The evidence is in the charred remains we see. Asking "who did it" implies it was a being that did it, either consciously or unintentionally. But that should not be first line of enquiry. Rather the question should be "What caused this? " because this includes both the former but leaves room for a different hypothesis. It may have been a person but it may also be faulty electrical. Same thing about your question, we should ask "what" 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by Nobody: 12:10pm On Oct 15, 2017 |
vaxx: Choice is key and consequence... This two factors explains alot and contingency is...DAMN MY MIND...I'LL PASS...I'M DULL TODAY... |
Re: Why Is There Something Rather than Nothing.... Let's Talk Philosophical by vaxx: 12:10pm On Oct 15, 2017 |
akintom:brilliant analogy.... But let me compile it...assuming, I was arrested by the security and charge to court for entering the white house without an authourization... What question do you the think the security that got me arrested or the prosecutor who is handling my case will ask first?. Who are you or how do you get your self here? Be realistic.... Am sure your best answer will be the former...who are you may save you from how do you get here... Your identity matter... An undercover security that find himself in the white house can easily bypass the question how do you get here.... Hope am cleared.. |
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