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Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by STUPUDTHEISTS: 10:47pm On Oct 15, 2017 |
superhumanist: Obviously religious gods are all man-invented - you don't need to be omniscience to know they don't exist. When I said God in my post, I was referencing a possible creator god - one who wish to be unseen. Maybe there is one, maybe there's not - we don't know this for certain, hence agnostics. We can either believe or disbelieve in its existence. So what I'm saying in essence is an atheist, just like a theist, is agnostic - though doesn't believe in god, can not know for certain there's not one. Some foolish and uninformed Christians assumes Agnosticism is on the belief spectrum. To this dunderheads, you can't be an agnostic when you're a theist or atheist. My post was to correct that misconception, because in the actual sense, everybody is agnostic to god. |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by budaatum: 1:46pm On Oct 20, 2017 |
STUPUDTHEISTS:Rubbish, with profuse apologies, but rubbish all the same. People believe all sorts of things. Some even claim their beliefs are true. I read stuff from them here everyday. One of them just came out and said his subjectivity is objectivite, and resorted to insults when my subjectivity clashed with his. But beliefs are thoughts in ones head. I'm still having trouble buying that spanking brand new red Ferrari with the million pounds I like believing I have somewhere! Beliefs may, and usually have no bearing on reality and to claim they [always] have is, I am sorry to repeat, rubbish! I am not agnostic! I do not 'believe' where the topic at hand is concerned. The fact you may think I am foolish and arrogant is your belief, a mere thought in your subjective head. It may not reflect reality. P.s. If I were a Christian and claimed to believe in God, It is my belief that God should be well pissed off with me for merely believing. |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by Dalam0n: 7:33pm On Oct 20, 2017 |
If by God you mean creator or creators of the universe. , then I am agnostic to that. But if by God you mean the fictional constructs like Allah, Molech, Yahweh, Amun Ra, Palango etc then I am a gnostic atheist. Those Gods do NOT exist because they are man made constructs. |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by ScepticalPyrrho: 9:00pm On Oct 20, 2017 |
Most theist assume their beliefs are facts... This is a common fundamental error. If no one claims to KNOW a God... There will be no argument. They choke you with dogmas and myths as if they have any bearing on history and facts. They take an absolute position about God, arrogantly. The hardest task you can give to a religious mind is to distinguish between knowledge and belief. |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by budaatum: 10:17pm On Oct 20, 2017 |
STUPUDTHEISTS:I thought I understood. Sorry. |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by budaatum: 10:25pm On Oct 20, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:Butting in again. If I believe in God, it is an absolute belief, and, "thank you God for making me arrogant about you", is what I'd say in the privacy of talking to my God. There might be the little issue about my belief not being knowledge, but who's quibbling? Hey, I'm wearing a helmet this time, shoot! |
Re: Are Agnostics Also Atheists? An Interesting Discussion! by frank317: 12:05am On Oct 21, 2017 |
budaatum: Loooooool!!!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
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