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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nobody: 2:36pm On Oct 20, 2017
Africans have a serious identity crisis. Its like they just love copying things.

This whole "private jet" ish was copied from kenneth copeland. He would talk about it in his books, how he believed God for it and got it debt free. He has a hangar& runway with different planes. Next thing u know all these black pastors (starting from creflo dollar) started believing for private jets, like it was some standard of expressing ur faith. The only reason this was a thing for Copeland though was because he was a trained pilot (used to serve as oral roberts pilot before ministry) & had his own personal passion for flying.

They all just did follofollow and started doing what their father in the lord did. Im sure kenneth copeland would not be interested in jets if he had a different background, was brought up in nigeria and surrounded by so much poverty. There are more noble things to believe God for, not just ease of travel.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 2:37pm On Oct 20, 2017
RaptorX:
No the real answer is that gullible Nigerians sees churches as a place to get cheap miracles due to the failure of governance and the god of men sees them as a source of livelihood.

grin... Really!
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Dmoel: 2:39pm On Oct 20, 2017
Prince4945:
But the Jesus all these pastors are praying to lived a poor/average life, so why can't they emulate his life and do away with material/wordly things .

God right now
And have read your bible which says" As Jesus is in Heaven,so are we on this earth. The moment you are born of God,God's blessing will be in you. You are the one that will now pray for the manifestation. We are a Carrier of God's blessings as a child of God. If he didn't buy private jet and live good who will,a sinner? angry

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 2:40pm On Oct 20, 2017
Lamiri:
Death stopped Jesus and his disciples continued what of our naija own

They are still providing funds for missionaries but they don't make noise about it.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 2:41pm On Oct 20, 2017
Dmoel:
And have read your bible which says" As Jesus is in Heaven,so are we on this earth. The moment you are born of God,God's blessing will be in you. You are the one that will now pray for the manifestation. We are a Carrier of God's blessings as a child of God. If he didn't buy private jet and live good who will,a sinner? angry

I just love your comment grin

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Dekvng: 2:43pm On Oct 20, 2017
smiley[quote author=cnnamoko post=61603410]If your PAPA never get private jet......make una better hustle to get him one now

That's what he wll use to carry u guys to heaven on judgement day












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I saw this in a revelation
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 2:43pm On Oct 20, 2017
janellemonae:
Africans have a serious identity crisis. Its like they just love copying things.

This whole "private jet" ish was copied from kenneth copeland. He would talk about it in his books, how he believed God for it and got it debt free. He has a hangar& runway with different planes. Next thing u know all these black pastors (starting from creflo dollar) started believing for private jets, like it was some standard of expressing ur faith. The only reason this was a thing for Copeland though was because he was a trained pilot (used to serve as oral roberts pilot before ministry) & had his own personal passion for flying.

They all just did follofollow and started doing what their father in the lord did. Im sure kenneth copeland would not be interested in jets if he had a different background, was brought up in nigeria and surrounded by so much poverty. There are more noble things to believe God for, not just ease of travel.


I believe African preachers also deserve the best dear... grin
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by frankfab(m): 2:44pm On Oct 20, 2017
Religion is the major problem of Nigeria. Myriads of religious bigots who inadvertently enslaved themselves. Due to their shallow minds, the so-called Men of God dupe them by preaching about prosperity - the only thing that pleasing to their ears. These new generation churches with vague names set up primary schools, higher institutions and medium scale business while the dumb congregations fallow in poverty. Nigerians need to shine their eyes because Pastors are simply ENTREPRENEUR and THIEVES.

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Adaora93: 2:44pm On Oct 20, 2017
If e pain anybody, let them go and hug transformer ok. I celebrate my Papa, God's own General, A living Legend.. You are all invited for the celebration tomorrow by 3pm in any of our satellites church around. God bless you.

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Lamiri: 2:49pm On Oct 20, 2017
Nukilia:


They are still providing funds for missionaries but they don't make noise about it.
well we don't know but making a noise about it might stop a lot of accusations and people won't complain because they are men of God being a cheerful giver.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by salt1: 2:51pm On Oct 20, 2017
The followers deserve the leaders they get.
What you want to see is what you will see.

The churches that preach holiness and godly living are near-empty but those that preach instant prosperity and death sentence on all your enemies are filled to the brim.

Let the wheat and the tares keep growing. The owner of the harvest will come
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by MissAprokoMedia(f): 2:58pm On Oct 20, 2017
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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by sirkaebs: 3:00pm On Oct 20, 2017
Uchemus:
Nigeria's biggest problem is religion, very few workplaces, churches scattered all over the place, majority of Nigerians who are mentally lazy go to church almost everyday of the week, they won't go and work, looking for salvation for their lazy selves. Zero productivity, Zero economic value. they are waiting for God to come down from heaven and stuff their mouth with food, Dnt worry poverty would wipe Nigeria off.
We reject it in Jesus name. Poverty will not wipe Nigeria off.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Bullhari007(m): 3:00pm On Oct 20, 2017
baba God I'm sorry to say this, forgive me if I say any thing offensive or blasphemous henceforth till further notice all my offering, seeds and tithes will never go to any of this Yahoo Yahoo men in God's vineyard, I rather give it to the less-privilege than this cooperate criminals, all this new generation churches are a disgrace to Christendom's , how comfortable are they feeling in those luxury lifestyle when majority of their members barely eat 3square meal comfortably, I had a friend who happened to be a staunch follower of salvation ministry, she hardly miss any of their activities , she even drag the husband from Anglican to salvation, she paid tithes and sow seed even to her unborn baby , along the line the husband lose his job, the money stopped coming, she was pregnant that time, when her time was due she went to hospital and was told she will deliver through Cesarean
section the husband don't have the money they manage to get half of the money, the mother and baby was dying because of delay, when all hope to get the remaining money are lost they ran to salvation minister headquarter GRA where they worship, despite they are known face in salvation the church refuse to help them with part of the money or even contribute 10k , all plea end to deaf ear, instead one of the pastor prayed to her and told her to have Faith that she will deliver normally, how do they expect her to deliver when the scan has confirmed that the baby is too big and can't pass through, when the lady can't even walk without wheelchair due to heaviness of her baby, this lady keep coming to the church for help which they turn her down all the time , they even ordered security to bounce her and the husband out telling them they are not running charitable organization, as God may want it a good Samaritan pay the remaining bills and the woman were able to have her baby through CS , imaging the kind of people that called themselves a Christian, they can't even help a staunch follower how much more an ordinary member, I will rather give the tithe money to beggars on the street than this Yahoo men... God i know u will not deny me my blessings because I refuse to enrich this men, oh lord my saviour I know ur mercies and love is upon me I'm doing the right thing according to what your son Jesus instructed, to hell with this Yahoo men in God vineyard most especially Yoruba pastors,

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Hum2020: 3:01pm On Oct 20, 2017
let wait for judgment day its going to between Nigerian pastors and God alimighty
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by abbeyty(m): 3:02pm On Oct 20, 2017
at least they are creating jobs for our pilots
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Antoeni(m): 3:05pm On Oct 20, 2017
They say Oprah is not a Christian, but built a school for girls in South Africa. IT IS FREE EDUCATION!!!

They say Beyoncé is Illuminati, she's building a school for girls in Afghanistan. IT IS FREE
EDUCATION!!!

Tererai Trent is building a school for girls in Zimbabwe.
IT IS FREE EDUCATION!!!

They say Mark Zuckerberg is an Atheist (doesn't
believe in God), but more than 50% of his wealth
goes to charity. *FACT*

Bill Gates is spending billions to eradicate Polio disease in Nigeria!

Most of the American illuminati
celebrities are investing millions of dollars on projects in African,
adopting and educating African Children!!!

Our supposedly heaven-bound African (most
especially Nigerians) Pastors are building Empires for
themselves....

These Pastors tell us 'law' came by
Moses, but 'grace' came by Jesus...

They pray with the grace of Jesus,
and collect money with the law of Moses.

They are Christians, but nothing Christ-like about them anymore...

Jesus Christ was a just man, who
understood the principle of the 'widow's mite', but our Nigerian Pastors don't give a poo about widow's mite... The more you give, the more important you're
in today's churches, irrespective of whether the money is ill gotten or not.
JUST GIVE!!!!

The Bible is now a weapon of mass deception...

They twist the Bible knowing that people are lazy to read.

They collect 10% tithe, they collect welfare offering, they collect building offering, regular offering

*all
from one month's salary etc....
After which they will ask you to make vows and sow seeds at random!

Haha!! Why won't they be
billionaires?

After collection, they build high profile schools, exotic Hotels and Hospitals for Politicians and their
children, not caring about people who have been giving their widow's mite.

The Bible said "give that there may be meat in my store house"...

God never said you should keep
collecting after you have overflow of meat -private jets and billions in the store house.

Just imagine if these Pastors give a tithe of 10% from their income
back to the church... Nope!

They preach faith, but they don't exercise faith.

They tell you to give $1000 to become a Billionaire in
6months, but they won't pray for you to become a Billionaire before giving!

I never heard of any Billionaire who became one out of a pastor praying
for you...

I only know you can become a Billionaire through ideas, hard work and diligence!

I always shake my head whenever I see about 100 people running to go and sow $200 to become Billionaires in 24 months.

*remember that our God is not a
gambler and church is not a casino.
I keep wondering when they will ever stop being stupid...

How can the same Pastor who told you to sow seed of $1000 2years ago to become a millionaire
in 6months, come back after 1year to tell you to sow $200 to become a Billionaire in 24 months?

Please do the math na... if $1000 did not make a millionaire, how $200 make you a Billionaire?
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What baffles me most is the speed at which they run to go and pick the envelops, knowing fully well that
some of them can't even afford to pay their bills, and some are 3 months behind in their rent payment.

Haha!!!

Every Sunday as many Christians go to church with empty stomachs..

Pastors continue to live like kings

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by TrumpDonald2(m): 3:07pm On Oct 20, 2017
lazinny:
Nigerians. One of the most gullible set of humans on the planet.
If only our problems were spiritual , we wouldn't be where we are right now. Coz we're not lacking in prayers
Bro...I dey owe you one crate of your brand.

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nobody: 3:08pm On Oct 20, 2017
Nukilia:



I believe African preachers also deserve the best dear... grin
Na so.

Its all followfollow. The question u should ask is "why a private jet?" Lol! Its not a necessary purchase.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by sarutobie(m): 3:10pm On Oct 20, 2017
pweetiedee:


what are u saying?

Are u a member
What he is saying is that you all will rant against pastors and their church members but will not use your own money to help the poor or visit those in prisons..there are many helpless people around all of you but you all pretend not to see them..you only remember morality when it comes to pastors..just like when Judas ranged against Mary Magdalene for using expensive oil to clean the feet of Jesus..while he himself was stealing from the disciples coffers..a lot of Judas abound in this country.

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 3:10pm On Oct 20, 2017
Lamiri:
well we don't know but making a noise about it might stop a lot of accusations and people won't complain because they are men of God being a cheerful giver.

The Scripture warned not to make noise about our giving. It is better to obey God than fear the people.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Tessie01(f): 3:11pm On Oct 20, 2017
So private jets are meant for unbelievers? pastors are not supposed to own one? God I thank you for the life of my papa, as you have blessed him, also bless me. Amen. This same pastor on Wednesday gave food stuffs to the widows which he does occasionally and nobody is talking about it. God bless you richly Papa. I love you genuinely

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 3:12pm On Oct 20, 2017
sarutobie:

What he is saying is that you all will rant against pastors and their church members but will not use your own money to help the poor or visit those in prisons..there are many helpless people around all of you but you all pretend not to see them..you only remember morality when it comes to pastors..just like when Judas ranged against Mary Magdalene for using expensive oil to clean the feet of Jesus..while he himself was stealing from the disciples coffers..a lot of Judas abound in this country.

Intelligent submission! smiley
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Lamiri: 3:13pm On Oct 20, 2017
Nukilia:


The Scripture warned not to make noise about our giving. It is better to obey God than fear the people.
since no noise we can't say anything

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by abbeyty(m): 3:14pm On Oct 20, 2017
I can't blame those pastors but those who are still falling for their lies.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Nukilia: 3:14pm On Oct 20, 2017
janellemonae:

Na so.

Its all followfollow. The question u should ask is "why a private jet?" Lol! Its not a necessary purchase.

Although its expensive to maintain a private jet, I still believe they deserve the best... wink
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by cardoctor(m): 3:17pm On Oct 20, 2017
They have to keep up with the Jones's.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by sandland: 3:21pm On Oct 20, 2017
admax:
[b]The poke-nosing nature people have put on during this social media era is alarming.

1. If you are a member of Salvations ministries and you aren't happy that the church (or certain members) bought a jet for their Pastor, please leave! I am sure no one forced you there.

2. If you aren't a member of their Church, wetin consign you? Did their members



complain to you, please tell them my point above or keep quiet!

3. If a church or Pastor refuses to help the poor amongst them (which I know most do) then God will judge such Church or Pastor.

Don't for once think people/an entity don't have the right to spend their money on things they like or need just because we have 'poor people'.


You got it wrong by saying that people should spend on things they desire. The primary duty of a church is for members to make heaven and you can not do that with out helping the poor while you can afford a private jet. This is why I detest Pentecostal churches nowadays.

Most of you will shouting here, will go spend thousands or millions in a club tonight, don't you have poor neighbors? Why not give them the money than spending it in a club, you wouldn't but be shouting here upandan![/b]
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Kenmoris22: 3:23pm On Oct 20, 2017
admax:
The poke-nosing nature people have put on during this social media era is alarming.

1. If you are a member of Salvations ministries and you aren't happy that the church (or certain members) bought a jet for their Pastor, please leave! I am sure no one forced you there.

2. If you aren't a member of their Church, wetin consign you? Did their members complain to you, please tell them my point above or keep quiet!

3. If a church or Pastor refuses to help the poor amongst them (which I know most do) then God will judge such Church or Pastor.

Don't for once think people/an entity don't have the right to spend their money on things they like or need just because we have 'poor people'.

Most of you will shouting here, will go spend thousands or millions in a club tonight, don't you have poor neighbors? Why not give them the money than spending it in a club, you wouldn't but be shouting here upandan!
may sence fall on u

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by itsmeurLady(f): 3:24pm On Oct 20, 2017
No be today I kno say most of these Nairaland guys are jobless and ignorant, I'm ashamed that we still have such lazy thinkers in our generation, u are helping ppl to count their money. Go and work so that u can buy your own private jet instead of coming here to gossip like little girls and bash Men OF God. Men are slowly turning into women, from takin selfies to being jobless to gossips to being broke to giving flimsy excuses... O God help the Men Of This Generation!

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Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by Ken4Christ: 3:27pm On Oct 20, 2017
Nothing wrong with buying him a private jet if

1. He really has need for it. That is if the nature of his ministry is now itinerant.

2. They can raise an equivalent amount of money to attend to the needs of the poor in their midst.
Re: Members Of Salvation Ministry Blasted For Buying Their PAPA A Private Jet by pweetiedee(f): 3:29pm On Oct 20, 2017
sarutobie:

What he is saying is that you all will rant against pastors and their church members but will not use your own money to help the poor or visit those in prisons..there are many helpless people around all of you but you all pretend not to see them..you only remember morality when it comes to pastors..just like when Judas ranged against Mary Magdalene for using expensive oil to clean the feet of Jesus..while he himself was stealing from the disciples coffers..a lot of Judas abound in this country.

All these your "you" direct them to the guilty ones.

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