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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Guestlander: 4:06pm On Oct 22, 2017
mr1759:



Yoruba is not a tribe is a nickname.

if you tell me u are from Ife I will hear
or you are from Ibadan but that word Yoruba is nickname for from Hausa to does who help to Covey load

There are Yorubas as far away as Atakpame in Togo, go and tell them They are not Yoruba and that Yoruba is an appellation given to them by Hausa.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by HungerBAD: 4:09pm On Oct 22, 2017
Lordave:
I don't understand, is Akiolu trying to say that Benin kings have some sort of authority or power over Lagos?

Lagos Island only was founded by the Benin's.

You can google it. All Oba of Lagos pays homage to the Benin Monarch instead of IFE.

There are other Kingdoms founded by Benin Princes,but those facts not too known to the public. Except for the fact, that when it comes to the picking of their kings,they are usually taken to the Oba's palace for week's for preparation before ascending the throne.

Examples are the Obi of Onitsha. Yes, Onitsha was founded by the Bini's. Obi of Agbor, Otaru of Auchi and all Monarchs in Edo State.

The Asaba Monarch,and that a lot to numerous to mention all pay homages to the Benin Kingdom.

Benin Kingdom in those days use to be very powerful.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Lordave: 4:29pm On Oct 22, 2017
HungerBAD:


Lagos Island only waa founded by the Benin's.

How can google it. All Oba of Lagos pays homage to the Benin Monarch instead of IFE.

There are other Kingdoms founded by Benin Princes,but those facts not too known to the public. Except for the fact, that when it comes to the picking of their kings,they are usually taken to the Oba's palace for weels for preparation before ascending the throne.

Examples are the Obi of Onitsha. Yes, Onitsha was founded by the Bini's. Obi of Agbor, Otaru of Auchi and all Monarchs in Edo State.

The Asaba Monarch,and that a lot to numerous to mention all pay homages to the Benin Kingdom.

Benin Kingdom in those days use to be very powerful.
Was founded by the Binis or had a Bini influence? Cc: Bigfrancis, Odumchi, Americanquarters.


All those Kingdoms you mentioned do still pay homage to the Bini Kingdom except Onitsha, why?

Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by r2beez(m): 5:05pm On Oct 22, 2017
internationalman:

I just used pastors as a point of reference.
And d insult is uncalled for.


Sorry about that. I didn't mean to

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by HungerBAD: 5:07pm On Oct 22, 2017
Lordave:
Was founded by the Binis or had a Bini influence? Cc: Bigfrancis, Odumchi, Americanquarters.


All those Kingdoms you mentioned do still pay homage to the Bini Kingdom except Onitsha, why?


Forget the noise an average Onitsha man makes openly, that they were not part of the Bini Kingdom or that the Monarch don't pay homage to the Benin palace.

Truth is, the Monarchy is still 100% loyal to the OBA of Benin.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by mr1759: 5:09pm On Oct 22, 2017
forget pride and let tell ourselves the truth
Edo is the land of all black civilization

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by TheKingIsHere: 5:23pm On Oct 22, 2017
Lordave:
I don't understand, is Akiolu trying to say that Benin kings have some sort of authority or power over Lagos?

Yes of course. The great Benin Empire ruled Lagos. The history is there.

Yorubas have tried to hide the truth but thank goodness that oba akinolu is coming out to say the truth

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by TheKingIsHere: 5:26pm On Oct 22, 2017
Intrepid01:
This man is looking for real problem...I hope he's up to it......He publicly disrespected OONI and now calls Oba of Benin his father....okay naaa. ...trust me , the concerned parties are watching....

But the oba of Benin is his royal father

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by TheKingIsHere: 5:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
DMerciful:
I do not understand why the old Benin kings never saw the strategic location of Lagos to have harnessed it when they conquered the war camp and called it Eko. Look at the Fulani, they conquered Ilorin and occupied it till date but the Benin kings left Eko that has more potentials than Benin....they weren't ambitious I guess. The Europeans chased the Indians and native Americans out of US and occupied it till date!

That was the mistake they made. The Benin tribe and empire would have been the largest in southern Nigeria if the occupied the conquered regions, forced them to speak the Benin language and accept the oba of Benin as King. History is good

Imagine, the yorubas, aworis, igbos, itsekiri, urhobo, isoko, ijaw and so many other tribes were under the Benin rule.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by TheKingIsHere: 5:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
Chukazu:


it sounds more like the mighty Roman empire

Actually it was. Just google how mighty the Benin Kingdom was.. There are so many articles on it.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by TheKingIsHere: 5:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
HungerBAD:


Lagos Island only was founded by the Benin's.

You can google it. All Oba of Lagos pays homage to the Benin Monarch instead of IFE.

There are other Kingdoms founded by Benin Princes,but those facts not too known to the public. Except for the fact, that when it comes to the picking of their kings,they are usually taken to the Oba's palace for week's for preparation before ascending the throne.

Examples are the Obi of Onitsha. Yes, Onitsha was founded by the Bini's. Obi of Agbor, Otaru of Auchi and all Monarchs in Edo State.

The Asaba Monarch,and that a lot to numerous to mention all pay homages to the Benin Kingdom.

Benin Kingdom in those days use to be very powerful.

Thank you jare. I have told several igbos that the obi of Onitcha is a Benin prince. See bashing I received. It is hidden so that their people won't cry all over the internet.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by mr1759: 5:48pm On Oct 22, 2017
777philosopher:
stop saying rubbish. I am a descendant of Oramiyan through his son--Oba Eweka of Benin. but I am now in the Urhobo Tribe in Delta state. therefore I am a prince from the Royal House of Benin. my ancestor left Benin and went to Urhobo land to form his own kingdom in Delta state.

as urhobo man you claim u ple migrated Edo that means u ppl are Edo , can u proudly call itself edo person
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by HungerBAD: 5:50pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheKingIsHere:


Thank you jare. I have told several igbos that the obi of Onitcha is a Benin prince. See bashing I received. It is hidden so that their people won't cry all over the internet.

True.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by 777philosopher(m): 6:03pm On Oct 22, 2017
mr1759:


as urhobo man you claim u ple migrated Edo that means u ppl are Edo , can u proudly call itself ebony persom
listen here I don't claim. it is a fact. even the Royal scribes in Benin knows my ancestor very well. he is called Prince Igboze.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Ubenedictus(m): 6:06pm On Oct 22, 2017
macof:


But no Eleko ever made major decisions. His duty was solely defensive, to protect Aworiland with his Bini military. The Idejo had been the only decision making body before colonization
nah, the idejo was the only decision making body before the benins
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by samuk: 6:30pm On Oct 22, 2017
Chukazu:
undecided. this Akiolu of man Should just pledge allegiance to Benin monarch once and for all make we hear word

What else do you want to hear from Akiolu? He has publicly declared that the Oba of Benin is his father, what other allegiance is greater than this solemn proclamation.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by macof(m): 6:38pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ubenedictus:
nah, the idejo was the only decision making body before the benins
binis didn't even settle in Aworiland until the Idejo issued an invitation

At first Bini set up a military camp headed by Ashipa at today's Enuwa( at the extreme edge if the lagoon)
After the invitation Ado moved to Ido island and was tasked with the defence of Aworiland

Administrative duties had always laid with the Idejo

It was Ado's son Gabaro who set up Eko as a community cum kingdom by extending the initial camp on land given to him by Aromire(the Idejo chief that Bini descendants always called "land owner"wink

Edit: in fact Aromire didn't give him any land, he was simply allowed to build his House or Palace (Iga) on the land. Gabaro then used his influence and military advantage to declare a kingdom and request insignia of office from Oba of Bini

Lagos traditional politics is not like anywhere else and not until recently the Eleko was more like a baale
And Oba of Bini only had reference from bini descendants and demanded fealty from the Eleko, the Idejo were not vassals. Everybody went about their business, Eleko to provide defence and the Idejo to control their land

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by mr1759: 7:43pm On Oct 22, 2017
777philosopher:
listen here I don't claim. it is a fact. even the Royal scribes in Benin knows my ancestor very well. he is called Prince Igboze.

if u ppl are from Edo, why are u ppl called by other name, why are u ppl not call Edo ppl
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Chukazu: 7:44pm On Oct 22, 2017
samuk:


What else do you want to hear from Akiolu? He has publicly declared that the Oba of Benin is his father, what other allegiance is greater than this solemn proclamation.

but his "subjects" don't like to hear that...
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by tawa89(m): 8:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
Most Anioma villages including Onicha Mmili was founded by Eze Chime, an Nri priest who relocated to Bini Kingdom, lived for a while , had a fallout with the Oba and went back home. He founded the Onicha Royal stool, styled after the Bini royalty. Eze Chime isn't Bini. That a man travels to US , stays there for years, comes home to set up a hospital styled after John Hopkins Uni. Hospital , does that make him , his hospital and people Americans?
HungerBAD:


Lagos Island only was founded by the Benin's.

You can google it. All Oba of Lagos pays homage to the Benin Monarch instead of IFE.

There are other Kingdoms founded by Benin Princes,but those facts not too known to the public. Except for the fact, that when it comes to the picking of their kings,they are usually taken to the Oba's palace for week's for preparation before ascending the throne.

Examples are the Obi of Onitsha. Yes, Onitsha was founded by the Bini's. Obi of Agbor, Otaru of Auchi and all Monarchs in Edo State.

The Asaba Monarch,and that a lot to numerous to mention all pay homages to the Benin Kingdom.

Benin Kingdom in those days use to be very powerful.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by samuk: 9:06pm On Oct 22, 2017
tawa89:
Most Anioma villages including Onicha Mmili was founded by Eze Chime, an Nri priest who relocated to Bini Kingdom, lived for a while , had a fallout with the Oba and went back home. He founded the Onicha Royal stool, styled after the Bini royalty. Eze Chime isn't Bini. That a man travels to US , stays there for years, comes home to set up a hospital styled after John Hopkins Uni. Hospital , does that make him , his hospital and people Americans?

You cannot know Onitsha history more than it's greatest son and one of Africa greatest sons. If Zik says Onitsha was founded by Benin, I believe him more than you.

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Leez(m): 9:09pm On Oct 22, 2017
Chukazu:
undecided. this Akiolu of man Should just pledge allegiance to Benin monarch once and for all make we hear word
Are u saying dat afonjas are bini slaves?
grin grin
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by 777philosopher(m): 9:09pm On Oct 22, 2017
mr1759:


if u ppl are from Edo, why are u ppl called by other name, why are u ppl not call Edo ppl
because we have formed a seperate identity. and i am a Prince from the Royal family of Benin. when we were leaving Benin, a lot of people followed us.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by step1: 9:23pm On Oct 22, 2017
I think this matter has been put to rest. As an said I man from Lagos island royal household I think I can state some facts from my pov.

1. The old and even present day Lagos island WAS NEVER OWNED BY BINIS.

2. The monarchy is firmed by a bini Prince and this does not make us under binu in any way

3. Bini itself came from Ile ife.

4. Before binis migrated we have the awori people and every bini linkage is now awori as I am from one of the lineage.

5. We are yorubas in every sense and we consider binis as yorubas

6. Akinolu was never meant to be oba but Tinubu forced him on us. It was the family of Adebiyi that was to be king after oyekan

7. Unlike the binis we know our history and that is why homage is paid to the oba bini till this day. Bini is meabt to be doing thr same to the ooni

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by Rmxr: 9:32pm On Oct 22, 2017
macof:
binis didn't even settle in Aworiland until the Idejo issued an invitation

At first Bini set up a military camp headed by Ashipa at today's Enuwa( at the extreme edge if the lagoon)
After the invitation Ado moved to Ido island and was tasked with the defence of Aworiland

Administrative duties had always laid with the Idejo

It was Ado's son Gabaro who set up Eko as a community cum kingdom by extending the initial camp on land given to him by Aromire(the Idejo chief that Bini descendants always called "land owner"wink

Edit: in fact Aromire didn't give him any land, he was simply allowed to build his House or Palace (Iga) on the land. Gabaro then used his influence and military advantage to declare a kingdom and request insignia of office from Oba of Bini

Lagos traditional politics is not like anywhere else and not until recently the Eleko was more like a baale
And Oba of Bini only had reference from bini descendants and demanded fealty from the Eleko, the Idejo were not vassals. Everybody went about their business, Eleko to provide defence and the Idejo to control their land

That's all
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by ernieboy(m): 9:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
DMerciful:
I do not understand why the old Benin kings never saw the strategic location of Lagos to have harnessed it when they conquered the war camp and called it Eko. Look at the Fulani, they conquered Ilorin and occupied it till date but the Benin kings left Eko that has more potentials than Benin....they weren't ambitious I guess. The Europeans chased the Indians and native Americans out of US and occupied it till date!
the Fulani wars were religious wars meant to supplant and totally subjugate the culture and way of life of the conquered people, Benin wars were just expansionist wars mainly for the purpose of receiving tributes without the desire to subjugate the people. that is why most communities that were conquered by the Benin army still retained their unique cultural heritage.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by ernieboy(m): 9:55pm On Oct 22, 2017
Danladi7:

Ilorin was never captured nor conquered in history

Dont study history on nairaland.Get a good history text book.
illorin was conquered by the Fulani jihadists and the ruling house in illorin headed by afonja was supplanted by a Fulani hegemony.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by PrecisionFx(m): 12:32am On Oct 23, 2017
Tolexander:

He won't stopped running mouth.

Lagos state geographic location aided its development.

How come, the prayers haven't developed Benin (Edo State as a whole), the seat of the Obas as Lagos?


He's trying to tell yorubas that Bini people own Lagos.
Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by mr1759: 7:36am On Oct 23, 2017
777philosopher:
because we have formed a seperate identity. and i am a Prince from the Royal family of Benin. when we were leaving Benin, a lot of people followed us.

there is nothing like separate identity, you people have no identity if this is your claim, a Jewish American, Jewish Russian, is a Jew for the fact that they have left isreal centuries ago. even Yoruba that are in Cotonou still call themselves Yoruba despite they left long ago. so I put to you according to your claim that you don't have identity

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by mr1759: 7:46am On Oct 23, 2017
step1:
I think this matter has been put to rest. As an said I man from Lagos island royal household I think I can state some facts from my pov.

1. The old and even present day Lagos island WAS NEVER OWNED BY BINIS.

2. The monarchy is firmed by a bini Prince and this does not make us under binu in any way

3. Bini itself came from Ile ife.

4. Before binis migrated we have the awori people and every bini linkage is now awori as I am from one of the lineage.

5. We are yorubas in every sense and we consider binis as yorubas

6. Akinolu was never meant to be oba but Tinubu forced him on us. It was the family of Adebiyi that was to be king after oyekan

7. Unlike the binis we know our history and that is why homage is paid to the oba bini till this day. Bini is meabt to be doing thr same to the ooni


binis are not yoruba, aworis are not Yoruba

the Lagos Atlantic ocean was formerly called the bright of Bini not the bright of Yoruba have u find out why

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by step1: 8:31am On Oct 23, 2017
mr1759:


binis are not yoruba, aworis are not Yoruba

the Lagos Atlantic ocean was formerly called the bright of Bini not the bright of Yoruba have u find out why

Can you explain why we are not yorubas

The country Benin republic is not called anago or ewe or yoruba republic' have you found out why ?

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Re: Ex-oba Of Benin’s Blessings Aided Lagos Development – Akiolu by step1: 8:35am On Oct 23, 2017
Even Akiolu cannot say he is not yoruba. What does he speak ? Is he more bini than an oyekan, dosumu or Kosoko . Even I have more claim than akinolu. This rubbish is as a result of Tinubu's misdirection and greed.

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