Sometimes i wish every Nigerian could have the opportunity to visit any 1st world contry fr just one month vacation i bet u guys a lot will change in the way you view issues., this issue of tithe this tithe that is just over hyped and over emphasized in Nigeria(Africa)

Hypnosis is the name of the game, Nigerians are the tools while pastors are the players.

Asking pentecostals not to pay tithe is like asking a Hypnotized maga not to pay her fictitious yahoo boyfriend..it takes a lot of energy to convince this category of people, even in the face of apparent reality..they still wish and hope against hope that they r on the right part.

adebisiseun2:


http://victorynetwork.org/BibleTithe.html

stop writing what you don't understand tithing is not applicable to the present day church it was only practice in the old what should be done now is free giving willingfully from your heart No one has the right to dictate how much you should give as an offering to God

adebisiseun2:
i am not twisting the scripture.jesus command it

Where?

tolexy007:
By the Grace of God, Nothing will stop me from paying Tithe....I will do as my God command, and if any pastor is now using the tithe for is own personal interest, that is btw him and the God...

Just look at how ignorant you sound, yet you will challenge your leaders for embzelling funds from taxes and heavy charges meted out to the masses. If a pastor isn't using your money to better the church and its members and worst is you don't care, it shows you are very Ignorant.

The purpose of tithing was to CATER for those who didn't have, if this cannot be met despite your regular act of tithing and you don't care, its very appalling.

You sound like one of those who think that only when he gives fund in a church is when he gives to God. Please open your bible and study more, Read specifically on the greatest commandment LovE and what Jesus says about your neighbour.

Now with that being said, God blesses anyone regardless of his regular tithing or not. As long as you work hard enough, and you are a giver (not church giving)_ you will experience growth every single time.

And if I don't pay my tithe

No pastor talks about holiness again
It's always about tithes

damariox:
What Mathews 23 vs 23 says

Teachers of the *Law and *Pharisees, trouble is coming to you. You are *hypocrites! You only obey the very small matters in the *Law. You grow special small plants to use when you cook. You give to God one part out of ten parts of these plants. This is a small matter in the *Law which you obey. But the more important parts of the *Law you forget to obey. It is important to be good and kind to other people. It is also important to believe and to obey God. You should do all these important things as well as the other things that are not so important.

Very nice. This analogy clearly explain what Jesus meant on tithing, as the pharasis only see the most insignificant part of d law as been important while relegating the most important part

petra1:

Jesus clearly endorsed tithing here

Matthew 23:23 (TLB)
"Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders--hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things--justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.

Tithes and offetings are principled in the kingdom of God. It has always been there before the law came . Right from the days of Abraham it has come to stay . Just like other principles like worship , prayer , alms , fasting etc . Testaments don’t change principles

Jesus was talking to the Pharisees who were Israelites by birth and still practices Judaism at the time. They still had the levites and priests so had to pay them tithe.

Tithe was a compensatory system for a tribe out of the 12 tribes who wes not allowed to own a Land nor Farm. The Levites were born priest and since they have to survive without working, they were entitled to tithe.

When Christianity took off after the Pentecost, other nations joined and since there was no need for Levites anymore in the new testament church, there was no need for tithe. Little wonder none of the disciples gave nor received tithe. Emphasis was rather placed on giving, sharing and having all things in common. Ananias and Sapphira died for not bringing 100% of their earning not tithe(Acts 5:1). There is no room for tithe in a new testament church. Paul confronted Peter and asked the leadership of the church not to extend laws strictly for the Jews to other Christians from other nations(Gal2:11-13). Peter also instructed the church in Act 15 not to tempt God by mandating Gentile Christians to obey Jewish laws and tradition.

As much as the pastors and the church must be taken care off, it shouldn't be by tithing. Offering and sacrificial giving is required of us not tithe. Some Pastors should stop placing a burden on the members that God has not placed and stop teaching for laws the commandment of men,

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

No single biblical quote to support your message!!! Words without spirit don't make sense to me.

He was talking to the Pharisees and the saducees who were judist and under the law, they weren't Christians and Jesus was yet to fulfill he law then. Reason this well before you quote me.

Are you a Pharisee or saducee?

Did Jesus pay any tithe?
Was it ever recorded any of the disciples/apostles paid tithe?

Tithe was for the Jewish people under the law but now that Christ have risen, Christians aren't under the law and tithe not applicable to us.

petra1:

Jesus clearly endorsed tithing here

Matthew 23:23 (TLB)
"Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders--hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things--justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.

Tithes and offetings are principled in the kingdom of God. It has always been there before the law came . Right from the days of Abraham it has come to stay . Just like other principles like worship , prayer , alms , fasting etc . Testaments don’t change principles

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

I like your assertion.
Furthermore, the glory of a church should be judged by the knowledge and values the members have been able to benefit from the scriptures and not the size of structure, number of branches or the bank account of their leaders while their fold is filled with baby Christians.

XTLikeNat777:



No single biblical quote to support your message!!! Words without spirit don't make sense to me.

You must be a Pharisee.

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

well said..I doubt if the op will quote u..They are just blind

ganjaman:
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Please how does a full time Pastor feed and cloth his Family

From offerings(cheerful givings) which was an upgrade from tithing (which had a lot of clauses associated with it(.

tolexy007:
By the Grace of God, Nothing will stop me from paying Tithe....I will do as my God command, and if any pastor is now using the tithe for is own personal interest, that is btw him and the God...

God commands or your pastor commands??

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

Brilliant submission. ... but you need to know that those who go to church really do not go there to hear the TRUTH... so the pastors would preach what they want to hear. I have always wondered why pastors pictures must adorn every nook and corner of our road, are they competing with nollywood actors and actresses? But really we can not change the tide of things in the church, all these occurrences has been foretold in the Bible. May God protect his children from the wolves in sheep clothing.

OP Mat 23:23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
Mt 23:23 NIV
so Pls watch d way u quote the Bible to suit ur believe. who tithe help if not d pastors n their families

iyzeek:


Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

Your point is equal to saying Jesus did not condemn but supported divorce in the above verse.

At least jesus condemned divorce but did he condemn tithe ? He would not have hesistated to condemn tithe if it were wrong but Jesus rather endorsed it . There is never a place where God condemned Tithe . As long as we have high priest we must tithe . Jesus is our present high priest

It is very good to paid titteth is a reward for it God will always watch over your affair

Op, kindly search and find Freeze's interview with sahara on you tube, listen with an open mind and then respond. I need your properly situated, well articulated scripture backed response.

NB: you are permitted to respond privately, pls check my profile page for my email add.

TheAlchemist:


Brilliant submission. ... but you need to know that those who go to church really do not go there to hear the TRUTH... so the pastors would preach what they want to hear. I have always wondered why pastors pictures must adorn every nook and corner of our road, are they competing with nollywood actors and actresses? But really we can not change the tide of things in the church, all these occurrences has been foretold in the Bible. May God protect his children from the wolves in sheep clothing.

These men collect their glory on earth just as Jesus foretold. They mingle with politics, preach politics on pulpit, the list can go on and on but the truth is that if majority of these commercial church followers would read the scriptures and ascertain the truth, they would know they've been on spiritual bondage from these pocket wreckers a long time ago.

Imagine that church own and manage Businesses, schools that their average members cannot even afford. Abeg wetin concern worship of God and business

jacyhelen:


well said..I doubt if the op will quote u..They are just blind

They've been so blinded so spiritually to the point that they can't see through their nose.

Only an honest search of the truth in the scriptures and prayer to God can the truth be revealed to them

adebisiseun2:
i am not twisting the scripture.jesus command it

Jesus time was under the law...he actually rebuked them not commend as u claimed maybe you should read your scriptures properly

bolamp:


I like your assertion.
Furthermore, the glory of a church should be judged by the knowledge and values the members have been able to benefit from the scriptures and not the size of structure, number of branches or the bank account of their leaders while their fold is filled with baby Christians.

Most of these mainstream pastors and their members know nothing from the scriptures, they don't know the deep things of God, the few that know hide the truth from their members to keep them in perpetual servitude and dependence, that why we keep hearing different nonsenses happening in church. We hear cases of members been baptised in alcohol, pastors stepping on members etc.

May God have mercy on us

XTLikeNat777:



No single biblical quote to support your message!!! Words without spirit don't make sense to me.

Question is, do you dispute the facts available to you? Did you see any single message out there that I posted that is not in the scriptures?

Well the truth still remains that you are entitled to seeing the quotations from the scriptures but I had time constraints, but if your desire to have the scriptural quotations is for you to have an improved knowledge of the Scriptures and improve in your relationship with God. I will not denie you that privilege, but you would give me time, today is so just booked for me

adebisiseun2:
i am not a pastor but a christian and believe in what it is written in the bible.God is the 1 that says we should tithe in the bible.i dnt write alone but i also posted bible verse(s) where you can confirmed it.goodluck

You are a slave master. Talk to your sheeple and leave the free minded alone.

petra1:

Jesus clearly endorsed tithing here

Matthew 23:23 (TLB)
"Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders--hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things--justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.

Tithes and offetings are principled in the kingdom of God. It has always been there before the law came . Right from the days of Abraham it has come to stay . Just like other principles like worship , prayer , alms , fasting etc . Testaments don’t change principles

are we still under the law? If no when did we stop? If you are sincere you will see that this is a rebuke not commendation but then he added that part because they where still under the law

Strobe:

Just see where religion has gotten us to!

Millions are wallowing in poverty,living in extremely poor conditions and people are giving reasons why we should give money to corporate thieves.

Religion is the worst form of slavery!

We have a long way to go!

just keep saying it bro, one day their chains will break and they will be free.

but there are some olosho in my area that use to pay tithe is that spiritual growth or showing gratitude to God for good customers??

adebisiseun2:


http://victorynetwork.org/BibleTithe.html

Mr Man all you wrote here is rubbish, show us where Jesus paid tithe, show us where his 12 disciples paid, show us where the early church laid. They only paid taxes to government and gave their belongings. You are a confirm sheeple if you cannot give this facts I ask of you.

adebisiseun2:


http://victorynetwork.org/BibleTithe.html

Please with all due respect, stop misinterpreting the scriptures. I don't know what version of Mathew 23:23 you are reading from, but your quote is not what my Bible reads. Most importantly, you need to understand the whole essence of tithing. Remain blessed