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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Caseless: 11:13am On Nov 07, 2017
lipsrsealed
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Smooyis(m): 11:14am On Nov 07, 2017
Great move. But let's wait and see how it turns out. shocked shocked shocked
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 11:14am On Nov 07, 2017
The idiocy continues. If the DISCOS are not needed why not scrap them ? If they are, why bypass them ?
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by AishaBuhari: 11:14am On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
Ogar please speak for yourself alone okay?

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 11:16am On Nov 07, 2017
reflexionz:
please before any one starts saying anything, understand some terms, Eligible customers and Large Power Users, so dont think with your Prepaid Single phase meter you wont utilize the disco?
in other news it just spells doom for the discos and more woos on the customers, LPUs make up for about 70% of discos revenue, take that away and wow you have a major hole in revenue which will be transferred to non LPU's (residential and commercial).
these guys are jokers they have no idea what they are doing there? power sector needs long term investment to secure infrastructure and network integrity. SIMPLE!

Correct.
Some people up there did not read and process the article but want to comment.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by peacemara54(m): 11:17am On Nov 07, 2017
check my signature
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by bellyjean(m): 11:17am On Nov 07, 2017
Good one Honorable minister.

I have always advocated for a decentralised power system, that is there is no need for power generating companies to keep supplying to a an inefficient and dysfunctional national grid. We can't solve a problem with the same mentality we used to create those problems. We have to tackle it differently.

Let every power generating stations woo companies with the promise of stable power supply 247. We need rapid industrialisation in Nigeria and an inefficient national grid will not help us achieve this. And we will see how quickly the environment of these power companies will develop. If we have been following the developments in the transmission sector, we would see that neither the government nor private investors are willing to invest in it. Common sense tells us that dilapidated cables are not repairable, new cables have to be laid again to the corners of this country. New Substations: step up and step down would have to be installed to enable these new cables deliver optimally. It is a mammoth project which is not feasible and sustainable cost wise.

Taking Egbin thermal power plant for example, out of its total 1320MW capacity, less than 600MW is generated. If they are given the flexibility to feed those companies in Lagos, I believe that they would have been incentivised to get the other turbines working and also scale up.

Minister Fashola should take the bull by the horn and allow these GENCOS to be able to feed residential and office loads. An advantage is that gencos can now add more turbines to their plants I.e scale up as demand increases.

The ministry of power should work on bringing private investors in. Let them choose any part of the country, whether state , city, town, community, and build their power plants there. Let them feed those consumers there. The government via the ministry can work to regulate pricing and billings.

There is no need for government to carry unnecessary burden when there are billions of dollars in the hands of private investors waiting to be utilised.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Habyz(m): 11:17am On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
WTF! Why would you bring tribalism into this? For your information the city of Ibafo, Ogun state hardly have any electricity. You should go their and see how it is.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Myde4naija(m): 11:23am On Nov 07, 2017
InwehAkpevwe:
So no more TCN? Is this feasible at all? Thats what u get when a Barr. Heads and Engineering ministry. Na im b say dem go need dia own grid, transmisn lines nd transformers.
definitely any companies and groups that will love to buy from gencos will be buoyant enough to have their own transmission line and transformers.

Its a great idea from the barrister,

The idea is to break the monopoly of the 11 disco company in their various areas.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by ican2020: 11:25am On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
Faulty conclusion that has no single justification.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Nobody: 11:26am On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
Your assertion is a big lie.Many Nigerians are still battling with 6hrs electricity while some don't have at all. Don't say what you don't know

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Originalsly: 11:27am On Nov 07, 2017
As I understand it.... this is for large electricity users only...... they would bypass the middle man DISCOS and buy directly from GENCOS. That's fine.... they the big companies will have much lower bills and more likely would increase their electricity usage. When they increase usage there would be less electricity available for the masses...the small electricity users. There would be less income for the DISCOS. So guess what the DISCOS will do to maintain their level of income? Increase tariff on the less electricity it will be distributing.... and that is what will be our share...bigger bills. There is nothing in this bill to freeze tariff for the small man nor to maintaining his supply.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Nobody: 11:28am On Nov 07, 2017
Ajibel:
This is a brilliant move. I hope all they grey areas have been ironed out because cases might arise that the discos might want to challenge this decision in court due to the reduction of their customer base.

Hopefully, this would bring about an improvement in power supply in the long run and a reduction in load rejection.
Yes.At least the disco dancers will stop rejecting mw of electricity to make abnormal profit

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Rolly22(m): 11:39am On Nov 07, 2017
Who ever that believes these Rubbish talks is as useless as Nigerian government
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Jesusloveyou: 11:55am On Nov 07, 2017
mrvitalis:

Something is definitely wrong with You I swear

Even a fool knows that what ever gain we make today in the power industry the foundation was a Brian child of prof bath

Just get a life
for supervising the sales of power to idiotic pigs without the financial muscles to put things in good shape.
Prof Bart is idiotic pig of Biafra

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by buskie13(m): 11:56am On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
speak for yourself alone man,light wey come here yesterday was not up to 6 hours

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Jesusloveyou: 11:58am On Nov 07, 2017
IamaNigerianGuy:
The idiocy continues. If the DISCOS are not needed why not scrap them ? If they are, why bypass them ?
that is the mess created by your ineffectual buffoon, that also make it impossible to scrap them

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by omoiyalayi(m): 12:01pm On Nov 07, 2017
So what will now happen to DISCOs ?
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Olifiz(m): 12:03pm On Nov 07, 2017
Nice move this will take out the autonomy the discos have n also making power cheaper and better distributed, tho GenCos will still buy power from the Discos. This will bring in many investors especially metering companies like mine that have the required certifications from NERC n all. This will encourage metering (prepaid) which will curb estimated bills being dished out by the discos.
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Nobody: 12:06pm On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad
here in Jos, plateau state, they've not interrupted the power supply, I dey fear no be small, if them mean us chai, 1full week them no blink light, I dey play my xbox one dey pause am go do some runnings come back e still dey on, bros I'm seeing improvement

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by alfanio(m): 12:08pm On Nov 07, 2017
reflexionz:
please before any one starts saying anything, understand some terms, Eligible customers and Large Power Users, so dont think with your Prepaid Single phase meter you wont utilize the disco?
in other news it just spells doom for the discos and more woos on the customers, LPUs make up for about 70% of discos revenue, take that away and wow you have a major hole in revenue which will be transferred to non LPU's (residential and commercial).
these guys are jokers they have no idea what they are doing there? power sector needs long term investment to secure infrastructure and network integrity. SIMPLE!

You need to understand the purpose of this policy properly it is meant to deal with the poor services the Discos render due to their incompetence and poor infrastructure. By this move also the LPUs will buy their electricity straight from the Gencos there by utilizing the stranded power at the Gencos thereby creating a short term solution to that problem. The spinoff from this will be that the LPUs will be able to reduce their overheads, invest more thereby creating more investments and ultimately more employment generation will be enabled. The profit from the Genco end will be that they will receive more revenue and be able to expand their capacity by building more turbines thereby increasing available MW. The result of all this will be Nigeria being set on the path to sustainable energy availability. Lastly, the ordinary users will also benefit as the gap left by the LPUs will create availability so more power to the ordinary users.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by alfanio(m): 12:11pm On Nov 07, 2017
omoiyalayi:
So what will now happen to DISCOs ?
The policy is just meant for heavy users like factories and maybe Airports and the likes so Discos will still be in existence.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Olifiz(m): 12:12pm On Nov 07, 2017
Originalsly:
As I understand it.... this is for large electricity users only...... they would bypass the middle man DISCOS and buy directly from GENCOS. That's fine.... they the big companies will have much lower bills and more likely would increase their electricity usage. When they increase usage there would be less electricity available for the masses...the small electricity users. There would be less income for the DISCOS. So guess what the DISCOS will do to maintain their level of income? Increase tariff on the less electricity it will be distributing.... and that is what will be our share...bigger bills. There is nothing in this bill to freeze tariff for the small man nor to maintaining his supply.

U are not really out of point but the discos don’t have that monopoly anymore. Private investors are now being giving the opportunity to buy power from the discos n distribute especially those companies who import n install prepaid meters. It have been passed already that the discos should stop direct power distribution. Imagine being charged 15k plus n more in a month on light bills but with this new development get ur prepaid meter from a metering company that is registered n recognized by the discos n get value for ur money. The discos have been the problem from the beginning, they have been stopped from distributing power directly to the masses.
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Blue3k(m): 12:13pm On Nov 07, 2017
This policy seems very good for maximum deman customers.
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by mapet: 12:17pm On Nov 07, 2017
Kingstel:
lipsrsealed
Wherever we buy from does not matter now, but for it to be stable.

Are you a Large Power Users (LPU)? or did you even read the piece at all?
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by alfanio(m): 12:17pm On Nov 07, 2017
Originalsly:
As I understand it.... this is for large electricity users only...... they would bypass the middle man DISCOS and buy directly from GENCOS. That's fine.... they the big companies will have much lower bills and more likely would increase their electricity usage. When they increase usage there would be less electricity available for the masses...the small electricity users. There would be less income for the DISCOS. So guess what the DISCOS will do to maintain their level of income? Increase tariff on the less electricity it will be distributing.... and that is what will be our share...bigger bills. There is nothing in this bill to freeze tariff for the small man nor to maintaining his supply.
Very wrong submission here. the power the large electricity users will be using will the excess 2000MW that the Discos have not being able to accept so more electricity for ordinary users and more funds for Gencos.
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by royalamour(m): 12:19pm On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad

Dude just f#cking shut up with your stupid tribalism.

Nonsense.

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by Ijaya123: 12:20pm On Nov 07, 2017
whateverkay:
Good. Fashola has surpassed Barth Nnaji's overrated achievements in the power sector in 2 years. That enugu man was overhyped under Gej regime but we told them we have better tecnocrats in yoruba land. Every part of Nigeria now has a minimum of 12 hrs electricity daily. Yoruba leads, others follow sad

What exactly was Nnaji's achievement?
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by royalamour(m): 12:22pm On Nov 07, 2017
armylord:
here in Jos, plateau state, they've not interrupted the power supply, I dey fear no be small, if them mean us chai, 1full week them no blink light, I dey play my xbox one dey pause am go do some runnings come back e still dey on, bros I'm seeing improvement

That's because the water level is still high and the cold Harmatan breeze helps to cool the power engines.
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by mapet: 12:22pm On Nov 07, 2017
Ajibel:
This is a brilliant move. I hope all they grey areas have been ironed out because cases might arise that the discos might want to challenge this decision in court due to the reduction of their customer base.

Hopefully, this would bring about an improvement in power supply in the long run and a reduction in load rejection.

This is all good but it also looks like a banana peel to me.

1. Gencos are now incentivised to take LPUs clusters as their "serious" customers and Discos will be relegated to the background. LPUs will be disposed to exploit this option as it will give them cost advantage on power consumption
2. Gencos are also aware that with LPUs their revenues will be collected will less hassels as such be more disposed to give them power
3. Like you rightly said, the prime customers of Discos have just been lost and they will not go down without a fight. I fear that our judges wo are oriented to interprete "facts of the case" might come out with judgement that will set us back
4. We need to brace ourselves for the after effect of the not-well-thought-out and badly executed privatization of the power sector

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Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by mapet: 12:27pm On Nov 07, 2017
spawnx:
The Discos manage maintenance issues on a disco route, so if you choose to buy power from Genco who manages faults.

Obviously GENCOs and they will have supplies via private grids and not Disco route
Re: Customers Now To Buy Electricity Direct From Gencos - FG by mapet: 12:27pm On Nov 07, 2017
InwehAkpevwe:
So no more TCN? Is this feasible at all? Thats what u get when a Barr. Heads and Engineering ministry. Na im b say dem go need dia own grid, transmisn lines nd transformers.


You ask question that are at best pedestrian and worse still made baseless conclusions. The better thing for you to have done is to seek understanding and clarifications not make ridiculous interpretations

Well I can understand your plight. For someone who views Ministry of Power as an "Engineering" Ministry........worse still when the issue in discussion has virtually little to do with "engineering"......

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