I am shocked at the various comments by different people against tithing. We all agree that tithing started before the Law of Moses was given and it later became part of the Law.

There was regulations under the Law concerning how it should be paid, who it is to be to and who are to benefit from it.

I will not go into details on the methodology of tithe payment but I will attempt to draw common sense out of it.

Under the Law, the Jews were commanded to pay tithes to the Levites. Who are the Levites? It is one of the 12 tribes of Isreal. They were chosen to serve in the temple or sanctuary of God. They had no other job. So, the tithe was a reward for their service.

Today, we also have those who work in the house of God on a full time basis. If God would demand that the Saints of old support those who serve him with 10% of their income, do you think God would want anything less for those who serve him in the present day Church?

The work being done today in the Church is even far more important than that which the Levites did under the Law of Moses. We are talking about workers who serve in the house of God so that the gospel can progress fast and souls will be saved from the pit of hell.

Today, we have engineers, doctors, accountants and many other professionals who work in church full time. How will their salaries be paid if this kind of support do not come?

I am aware that the Levites were told to invite the widows, fatherless and even strangers to partake of the tithe with them every three years. There are Churches who also set apart some income to minister to these set of people.

You also cannot use all the guidelines contained under the Law to regulate how tithe should be administered in the church because we are not under the Law of Moses. We can however draw moral lessons from it and use them when applicable.

My final common sense to tithing is this. If those under the Law of Moses could give 10% to support workers in the house of God, what do you think those under the New Testament, saved by grace should be doing? We should even give more support for those who serve him night and day as their services makes the gospel to move faster and you will also be served better.

Under the Law, the Jews were commanded to pay tithes to the Levites. Who are the Levites? It is one of the 12 tribes of Isreal. They were chosen to serve in the temple or sanctuary of God. They had no other job. So, the tithe was a reward for their service

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bROS ABEG NOT ALL LEVITES WERE PRIESTS BUT ALL LEVITES BENEFITTED FROM THE NOW ABOLISHED JEWISH TITHE

Today, we also have those who work in the house of God on a full time basis. If God would demand that the Saints of old support those who serve him with 10% of their income, do you think God would want anything less for those who serve him in the present day Church?

SINCE GOD HAS NOT DEMANDED FOR 10% FOR THEM WHO ARE THIS CRIMINAL PASTORS TO CREATE THEIR OWN MAN-NADE LAWS AND PASS THEM OFF AS THAT OF GOD

Today, we have engineers, doctors, accountants and many other professionals who work in church full time. How will their salaries be paid if this kind of support do not come?

THEY WILL BE PAID FROM PROCEEDS FROM 2 COR 9:7

You also cannot use all the guidelines contained under the Law to regulate how tithe should be administered in the church because we are not under the Law of Moses. We can however draw moral lessons from it and use them when applicable

THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT PAY TITHES AGAIN

Salvation and tithing, which is greater

If you are genuinely born again, paying tithe should be a thing of joy as it contributes to the success of the ministry.

The Church has the authority to set rules that will benefit the body of Christ. Our Lord Jesus said,

Matthew 18:18.
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Put in another way, he said, whatsoever you do not permit or deemed improper is also deemed improper in heaven and whatsoever you permit or deem proper is also deemed proper in heaven.

The Church has deemed it proper to pay tithe and I tell you, heaven has backed it up. God is the overall director of kingdom affairs and every director will support any manager who makes a good proposal for more funds that will contribute to the overall success of the organization.

Souls are perishing on a daily basis. The gospel is free but it is not cheap to spread. Funds are needed for many things and your 10% should not be too much for the work of the ministry. If you truly love the Lord and want to see souls saved, you should even give more unless you don't know why you are here.

There are people who give as much as 50% of their income for the work of the ministry. Do you think they are foolish? And God is blessing them.

It is not your tithe that makes a Pastor rich or that buys private jet for Pastors. Mind you, Pastors who have private jet are not up to 1% of all Pastors. There are Pastors who cannot even afford a bicycle yet. But God will lift them up.

Please, don't develop animosity towards tithing. Many churches have started giving back to the society and you could be a beneficiary one day. I know of a church that runs a free school, free restaurant, free boutique and organize skill acquisition programmes freely both for church and non Church members. The money to fund these projects comes from the tithe they pay. So tithe payment is good and should be encouraged. Pay your tithe and contribute to the advancement of the gospel.

The Church has the authority to set rules that will benefit the body of Christ. Our Lord Jesus said,

I thought you people opposed the catholic church on this and were practising sola scripture lol chai money matter don come and sola scripture can now go to hell.Well dear No new law or revelation can be at avariance with the law of Christ.

BTW That authority you quoted was bestowed only on the apostle peter and the church he founded.Jesus was speaking specifically to Peter and not Adeboye,Oyakhilome etc

Please, don't develop animosity towards tithing. Many churches have started giving back to the society and you could be a beneficiary one day. I know of a church that runs a free school, free restaurant, free boutique and organize skill acquisition programmes freely both for church and non Church members. The money to fund these projects comes from the tithe they pay. So tithe payment is good and should be encouraged. Pay your tithe and contribute to the advancement of the gospel

all this does not mean God asked anyone to receive tithes which is the main focus of this argument

Ken4Christ:
If you are genuinely born again, paying tithe should be a thing of joy as it contributes to the success of the ministry.

You and your follow tithe mafias are fuckïng slow! Daddy freeze since the movement started have talked about....
1) bad leadership-you'all folded your hand and didn't say anything.
2) How Romania a country without natural resources like Nigeria and considered poor in Europe is better than us- you all folded your hand and said nothing.
3) Poor state of our roads and health facilities- you all said nothing!
4) He has being talking about the poverty level in Nigeria. Next year Nigeria will have more poor people than India. You all aren't saying ANYTHING!
In the past two weeks I have lost count of the pro tithe threads and comments from you and your stupid GOs. So your tithe money is more important than the wellbeing of your people? Your stupid tithe is more important than that family that survive on less than 200 naira a day?! FUÇK YOU and all them evil men that have left Nigerians backwards with their fake promises.....reply me for more.

If you like, OP, create 10 tithe thread....we're here for your likes. Make I sleep first and come dismantle every you wrote in the op up there....

PaChukwudi44:


all this does not mean God asked anyone to receive tithes which is the main focus of this argument

Have you done the one Jesus asked you to do? He said you should sell whatsoever you have and give to the poor. Have you been doing that? Jesus teachings on giving places more demand than tithe. If you are not comfortable with tithe, then you cannot be a disciple of Jesus because Jesus says, sell all you have and give to the poor. This is as good as 100%. Can you do it? If not, then start with the 10%. Remember, the early church practiced what Jesus taught. The present day Church is even mild in its demand. Only 10%. I think we have to start placing demand on our members like Jesus commanded.

Ken4Christ:
If you are genuinely born again, paying tithe should be a thing of joy as it contributes to the success of the ministry.

Is the success of the ministry in our hands or Gods hands?
Is it even our ministry or His?
you guys should be objective and let go.

ichuka:

Is the success of the ministry in our hands or Gods hands?
Is it even our ministry or His?
you guys should be objective and let go.

We have a role to play in the success story of ministries. God supplies the money but you do the giving. The least expected is 10%. Jesus taught 100%. If we give the way Jesus taught, the world will be won by now because nobody will lack anything.

Ken4Christ:

My final common sense to tithing is this. If those under the Law of Moses could give 10% to support workers in the house of God, what do you think those under the New Testament, saved by grace should be doing? We should even give more support for those who serve him night and day as their services makes the gospel to move faster and you will also be served better.

Nice one there . If a man feel 10% is legalistic he should give 50% na . Givers are not complaining it’s the non liberal who don’t give thstvare complaining just to excuse their greedy mind.

Question is, when you pay this so called Tithe to the church every Sunday are you giving to God ?? Of course not, you are giving it to self appointed so called men of god who are accountable to no one but their belly and bank account.

Money given to the cause of God should be done in the open and every member or donor should and must be involved in the decision making process on how the money is spent. Anything to the contrary is tantamount to corruption, thievery and deception , which of course is the norm in the churches ( so called ) of these diabolic men of gog.

You see them here defending the tithe till their last breath because they are too lazy or thick to get a real Job or start a proper business without having to rely on the ignorance and wealth of the masses.

Shame on all of them , their judgement does not linger as scripture says.

frosbel2:
Question is, when you pay this so called Tithe to the church every Sunday are you giving to God ?? Of course not, you are giving it to self appointed so called men of god who are accountable to no one but their belly and bank account.

Money given to the cause of God should be done in the open and every member or donor should and must be involved in the decision making process on how the money is spent. Anything to the contrary is tantamount to corruption, thievery and deception , which of course is the norm in the churches ( so called ) of these diabolic men of gog.

You see them here defending the tithe till their last breath because they are too lazy or thick to get a real Job or start a proper business without having to rely on the ignorance and wealth of the masses.

Shame on all of them , their judgement does not linger as scripture says.

Do the priest of old give financial records to the people for auditing? Did the Apostles did that. Men of God are only accountable to God and not man. If they mismanage or misappropriate the fund, it is God who will judge them and not man.

Ken4Christ:


Do the priest of old give financial records to the people for auditing? Did the Apostles did that. Men of God are only accountable to God and not man. If they mismanage or misappropriate the fund, it is God who will judge them and not man.

Oga no vex, the apostles did not collect tithes. And your arguments are weak and baseless. It's one of the problems I have with most of these tithe apologists. I'll tell you this for free, the tithe controversy is one of the many problems that Christianity of today is riddled with. After this, we will now talk about the sole-proprietorship businesses that we call churches today. We must return the churches to the path of the models set by the early apostles/disciples by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

Ken4Christ:


Do the priest of old give financial records to the people for auditing? Did the Apostles did that. Men of God are only accountable to God and not man. If they mismanage or misappropriate the fund, it is God who will judge them and not man.

See what Apostle Paul said:
"We want to avoid any criticism of the way we administer this liberal gift. For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man." 2 Cor. 8:20-21

Where do you guys get your doctrines of positions on Biblical issues from - planet MARS?

Why do you think God faulted the priests in Malachi that you guys so often quote from?

You can't understand basics of Christianity and you want to engage in an OPEN debate; calling for it in another thread. Please go back to Children Sunday School and learn.

All these upcoming pastors are opening threads on tithes and vigorously defending such robbery because they are hoping that their small churches will benefit from the tithe in the future.
That's why Joagbaje and this OP are running helter skelter. They are afraid to lose money they are hoping to collect in the future.

plainbibletruth:


See what Apostle Paul said:
"We want to avoid any criticism of the way we administer this liberal gift. For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man." 2 Cor. 8:20-21

Where do you guys get your doctrines of positions on Biblical issues from - planet MARS?

Why do you think God faulted the priests in Malachi that you guys so often quote from?

You can't understand basics of Christianity and you want to engage in an OPEN debate; calling for it in another thread. Please go back to Children Sunday School and learn.

Doing things transparently doesn't mean you have to submit your financial records to man to audit. God is the final judge.

NPComplete:
All these upcoming pastors are opening threads on tithes and vigorously defending such robbery because they are hoping that their small churches will benefit from the tithe in the future.
That's why Joagbaje and this OP are running helter skelter. They are afraid to lose money they are hoping to collect in the future.

Call us whatever name you want to. I want to do what most of our celebrated Pastors are not bold enough to do. Keep your tithe. The devil will collect it some other ways.

You will not know when you start buying anointed water, anointing oil, miracle handkerchiefs and even the blood of Jesus for miracle purpose. This is what most of you prefer. To be deceived by fake Pastors and Prophets.

I pay tithe, but may God forgive me for all the ones I have chopped.

Ken4Christ:


Call us whatever name you want to. I want to do what most of our celebrated Pastors are not bold enough to do. Keep your tithe. The devil will collect it some other ways.

You will not know when you start buying anointed water, anointing oil, miracle handkerchiefs and even the blood of Jesus for miracle purpose. This is what most of you prefer. To be deceived by fake Pastors and Prophets.

Your family will not know when they start buying anointed water and miracle handkerchiefs and even visiting babalawo.

Your wife will be sodomised by diseased old shamans while u contribute tithes to conmen. And those u call children will be fathered by strangers. This is what u prefer.

The devil will collect your joy every possible way. Fool.

NPComplete:


Your family will not know when they start buying anointed water and miracle handkerchiefs and even visiting babalawo.

Your wife will be sodomised by diseased old shamans while u contribute tithes to conmen. And those u call children will be fathered by strangers. This is what u prefer.

The devil will collect your joy every possible way. Fool.

Hahaha. I can see the devil in you is talking. Well, I will be praying for you and your likes to understand the truth one of these days and walk in the light of it.