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Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by MrExcel(m): 9:57pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
free2ryhme:ignorance is a disease. Google search Prof. AJ Nok, prof A.G Garuba, Prof. Madakson and thank me later. I can continue counting without an end.stop being myopic and travel before making statement of this nature. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by aribisala0(m): 9:57pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu:Your reasoning is odd Fiirst he did not say aount paid BY STUDENT.Whether the student pays or not somebody has to pay.It costs money to hire quality lecturers and infrastructure and when you work out the total cost of running a university by the number of students that gives you an aveage working cost per student. Whatever the cost of "QUALITY" is it is greater than 0.His argument is it is ay greater than the 20000 naira figure he quoted/ Germany where you claim it is "FREE" does that mean there is no cost,no budget per student? The money has to come from somewhere. I believe you must still be very young . There was a time when students did not sit on the floor and fighting got you expelled from Nigerian universities. When a Nigeria degree meant something. The truth of the matter is our universities are overcrowded. How can yo talk about using resources well when universities are forced to admit way above their capacity . Government needs to be honest with people.Government cannot fund free education and cruciallyy government CANNOT manage universities. Universities need to be privatised 100% and government channel its budget into scholarships and those that caannot get scholarships either pay or get loans. Many of the degrees awarded have no employment value and people would do better learning tades Nigerian univesities still churn out some good research especially in agriculture. The truth of the matter is our system stifles merit. You cannot have academia that is meritocratic in a political environment of nepotism and paddypaddyism such as ours. When lecturers can be given 24 hours to vacate the premises and so on. In the UK average professor salary is a bit more than that of an MP The starting point is to remove universities100% from government and create an environment where they are cometitiie. Just yesterday they were debating a bill for yet another university and Buhari approved some oney for another one while GEJ established several in one day. This is bogus and unrealistic. The Federal government cannot affrod these universities and they end up underfunded and overcrowded 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Gerrard59(m): 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu: There are lots of irregularities in this post. 1. You mentioned Scandinavian nations and Germany, but forget the fact that taxes of up to 50% of one's earnings fund the system. The tax rate in Nordic nations is very high, so don't compare. How many Nigerians pay taxes? How are the taxes used? They have less population, that also counts. 2. That certain lecturers failed doesn't mean every lecturer is not good. While there are bad eggs, there are equally if not more than good eggs. I've come across such kind of persons. 3. False. Research in the developed world is MAINLY funded by the government not the private sector. The latter fund some, but very few and they are highly selective. The Internet and Ebola vaccine were formed and discovered with public funding. Researchers in Japan are disturbing Abe's government to increase funding for basic research. Last year's Nobel prize winner in Medicine was funded with public funds. Nowhere is government funds lower than private funding. If not the British government will not be spending more than £2BN to reassure researchers of funding notwithstanding Brexit. Additionally, our economy is mono-dependent. We need to diversify. @Post, The VC is right. Funding is needed, however, major changes have to be effected for such funding to take place. Nowhere is quality education cheap, absolutely! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by lookingfly: 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Make this guy no use wayo increase fees ooo , I beg wait make I graduate first |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
free2ryhme: 1.ABU has a lot of Christian staff...academic and non academic, as well as plenty Christian students, past and present. 2.ABU has a Protestant chapel and a Catholic chapel on the main campus (Website of the protestant chapel) There is another Protestant chapel on the Kongo campus. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by barackodam: 10:02pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
maynation: 30k?? maybe he's a student of ABU Jaji, you never can tell 3 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by aribisala0(m): 10:12pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Gerrard59: Alsoweneed to move away fro excessive focus on university educationand put mor resources into technical education that actually yields jobs. In many countries hairdressing iis a certifiable qualification same for butcher carpenter and so on We are talking of a country where driving licences mean for truck drivers are for sale. In soecountries the person who passed you for driving test will have theiir name embedded permanently on your record People go to university as a means of employment. How many universities teach waste management,road building,plumbing which are areas our economy is crying for. How does one become a welder in Nigeria What about Industrial Safety ? I could go on and on. It is foolish to expect the same system that produce the Nigerian police to producegood universities Did yu see the most recent allocation for education 3 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by barackodam: 10:17pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
free2ryhme: you apparently know nothing about what you're saying. You don't even school in northern Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 10:21pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
cochtrane:Yes Germany, Norway etc pay close to 50% of income as tax to make services available for everyone. Plus they have a very low population growth which sees that govt can accommodate for everybody's education 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by victorDanladi: 10:23pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
free2ryhme:? |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by aribisala0(m): 10:27pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Statsocial:You are right that those countries have high taxation but honestly that does not matter to the issue at hand whethe or not the tax is 1% or 99 % is totally irrelevant. What is the issue is what is the budget per university student compared to the 20000 in Nigeria? and is it funded by the governent or by tuition? It is important to deploy the right argument to make the right point. There is no need to get embroiled in whether it is 20% or 50% it is immaterial 1 Like
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Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 10:29pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Gerrard59:Plus Scandinavian countries have low population and a very low birth rate. That alone means we can't copy their model. While a Denmark might not need more than 5 universities to cater for such population, Nigeria would need more than 100. Hence it makes sense for us to copy USA, China who have similar demographics and population rather than Nordic nations. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by einsteine(m): 10:37pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Ezigbonmadu: Someone has to pay. In Scandinavia, the people pay through the extremely high tax rates. In Germany, government funds it. You can't have low school fees and low funding at the same time while expecting quality. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Chartey(m): 11:12pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
9jakohai: Transport company, construction company, hotels are some of ABU's other businesses. Free tuition is simply not sustainable anymore. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by brightdave: 11:26pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
I will not totally agree with this Proff. although poor funding may be part of the challenge Nigeria education is facing, but several countries offer zero tuition education to the students and they are still doing fine. Our students gets scholarship abroad and pay no dime and yet the standard does not fall. To me the problem started from our government, refusing to pump money into institutions, more from our half baked lecturers many of them are not worth to be one due to corruption, some encourage cramming . just cram my handout , pour it back for me and get my full mark. The note that many of them are using was the same note they used for those who have gone before us and failed in the industries, guess what will happen as they will still use the same note for those unborn children after me and you. I guess our problem is not just money but the people in charge. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 1:13am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Hurlarzan139: I think we're all on same page on poor quality of education. But the man is right, peak milk and cowbell is not same. You pay 20k u get 20k value. Stanford University budget is $6.3billion this year.... All the state IGR in Nigeria combined is not upto that...Nigeria's budget sef is a Lil above $20billion. Tuition free schools are getting funds- probably public or private donors. ..... NUC is kuku interested in buying vehicles 3 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by BlackAce31(m): 2:25am On Nov 25, 2017 |
9jakohai:And u believed him when he said 50m monthly for just power. Truth is the problem lies in our economy. When the government lowest pay is #18k but government officials collect almost $65k, is there an even distribution of wealth?? and u want the masses to be paying fully for tuition. He's kinda right. Either the government properlyfunds our universities and give it standard or they even out how they pay and allow us pay our thing ourselves |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by gete21: 3:01am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Lilymax: I don't share that opinion
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Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by wman(m): 3:37am On Nov 25, 2017 |
I totally agree with this. Education is massively underfunded in Nigeria. The little fundings it receives gets embezzled in so many ways. Before even talking about being the best in the world, become among the top 10 in Africa first. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by ExpressDiggers: 3:58am On Nov 25, 2017 |
motikorede: My brother, i am a lecturer. Take it from me, MOST lecturers do no receive anything close to that 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Jasomine: 5:13am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Oga VC, for God's sake tell the truth. You don't spend 20k to train a student because govt pays the salaries. The major problem facing Nigeria public Universities is not different from that confronting the whole nation and that is CORRUPTION. Our VCs are worse that National Assembly members |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by optimusprime2(m): 6:36am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Dracoe:Do you also know in Germany, Tuition is free in "ALL" public universities? No matter what, if the government puts priority on Education as a whole... what this vC is complaining about wouldn't be an issue. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Walexwisdom(m): 7:00am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Dracoe: And did the person tells you the standard of leaving in the US compare to Nigeria. How do you expect students to pay school fees in hundreds of thousands or millions when some state can't even pay a minimum salary of #18,000. All we need is a government that function at its full capacity and capital punishment for the looters. then with time, sanity will be restored to our country. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Walexwisdom(m): 7:21am On Nov 25, 2017 |
9jakohai: Everything still boils down to having a functioning government at its top notch. imagine if there is regular supply of power I'm sure ABU won't be spending 600million per annum on power supply alone. If standard of leaving improve and minimum salary increase greatly for average Nigerians, then raising the school fees might be an option. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 7:23am On Nov 25, 2017 |
optimusprime2: Germans pay nearly 50% of their income in taxes for the privilege of free education.You sure you want that? Plus their GDP is $4.15 trillion[/b]compared to Nigeria's GDP of [b]$1,105.343 billion 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 7:26am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Walexwisdom: 1,We can't have stable power when most Nigerians, including big govt agencies, don't pay their bills at all.(but that is another issue) 2.So, we must wait till standards of living improve, eh? And by then the rich kids with their foreign degrees will be dominating the jobs market. 3.We are not even earning enough from oil sef. And the painful thing is that people steal despite that. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by lailo: 8:14am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Lilymax:I wanted to say something different b4 but bcs u are beautiful,I will leave u. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 8:29am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Mirand606: It's very obvious. NO SINGLE ASPECT OF NIGERIA IS WORKING. |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Nobody: 8:31am On Nov 25, 2017 |
motikorede: Oga u speak out of ignorance. My friend got a lecturing job in Nnamdi Azikiwe university Awka(Anatomy department) and his starting salary was 115k. State universities actually earn less than that. Bros u can't pay 100 dollars as school fees and then u want to get the same knowledge an Oxford graduate who paid 50,000 dollars yearly as school fees. Education is expensive worldwide and there's no country giving out free education in all their universities. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by maynation(f): 8:46am On Nov 25, 2017 |
barackodam:Hahaha |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by maynation(f): 8:47am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Abuklaw:Exactly, was surprised to see 30K |
Re: Why Nigerian Universities Can't Be World Best- Ibrahim Garba ABU Vice-Chancellor by Gr8amechi: 8:48am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Reading some comments I just weep, we are so quick to make comparison with USA how ever there are several other countries with free education and have very great standards of education, when most people talk about fees in USA, you forget that most of their citizens can school on loan and pay back after graduation also remember that they have a system that you are almost assured of work immediately you graduate but that doesn't translate here in Nigeria. I have Friends who have graduated from big expensive private universities in Nigeria and after 2 to 3 years after graduation they have no job despite paying very high fees,now just imagine you are from a power home and your parents borrow money to train you after paying average of 1,500,000 per session for 4 years and you don't get a job how will you repay, even if you get a job how much will be your salary. If you know your parents are rich enough go and school abroad no one is holding you back but these corrupt professors that all rode on free education and scholarships have no morals to ask govt to increase fees, it's a big sin against humanity. God will help the poor |
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