This false prophet again?

http://punchng.com/church-and-tithe-true-or-trite-talk/
http://www.thepointng.com/christians-are-not-to-pay-tithe-theologians-declare/

http://dailypost.ng/2017/12/04/tithe-daddy-freeze-blasts-apostle-suleman-reminds-failed-prophecy/

The Association of Christian Theologians, at the weekend, told Christian leaders in support of paying tithe to hold their peace, saying the exercise is not meant for Christians. say Adeboye, Oyedepo, others got it wrong



The association, which made its position known after a meeting in Lagos, said that payment of tithe, as recorded in the Bible passage, Malachi 3:6 to 10, was meant for the descendants of Jacob. Nigerians and other African tribes are not included, according to the theologians.
Speaking through its National President, Prof. Kunle Macaulay, the body said Nigerians were the descendants of Ham, a Gentile, and not of Shem, “who are the Israelites, and are, as such, not obliged to pay 10 per cent of their income as demanded by the churches.”
Macaulay, who supported radio host and presenter, Ifedayo Olarinde, popularly called Daddy Freeze, in describing tithe-paying by Christians as “modern scam”, also deplored a comment credited to the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, that Christians who refused to pay tithes “are living under a curse.”
He said, “Daddy Freeze is right by calling tithe-paying a modern scam. Tithe paying is not of Christianity and we expect well educated men of God like Pastor Adeboye and Bishop (David) Oyedepo (of The Living Faith Mission) to tell their congregations this biblical truth.
“Malachi 3:6 to 10, the Bible passage being used to threaten Christians refers to the descendants of Jacob, who are children of Israel, and not Christians.
“Nigerians are descendants of Ham, the race referred to as the Gentiles, while the Israelites are descendants of Shem, which is the house of Jacob.
“Men of God should interpret the Bible in the context of the writing as well as the history of the period of writing. In verse 7 of Malachi 3, the Bible records that the Israelites did not keep to the law of paying tithe ‘ever since the time of their fathers’, and were being admonished to change.
“That passage is talking about the law of Moses and not the law of love under which Christians are expected to operate.”
The ACTS president said Christians and their leaders could raise funds to carry out their projects, “but not by deceit, manipulation, magic, suggestivity and hypnotism, as we have these days.”
The Bible, he insisted, should be studied historically, noting that many pastors nowadays were not biblically trained.
“Many of them are either retirees, pensioners or jobless people, who are now in Christian leadership,” he observed.

Playz:

You're right, and there was also the scene in Gethsemane where someone's ear was chopped off.

An average Israelites are trained as worriors.It is an habit of Israel to train their young men how to handle sword. And this does not in anyway turn disciples/Apostles to bodyguard. It is a wrong choice of word

Otobolizer!

pascal558:
osaigbovo come and carry ur bloda away oh,he is disgracing himself again in public!!HIS DISCIPLE DREW OUT A SWORD[arm] TO CHOP OFF ONE OF D SOLDIER'S EAR!!hope the uppercase rang a bell??

Yes Jesus healed it and told him "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword" u didn't add that...Mr cut,copy and paste

ebenholer:

An average Israelites are trained as warriors. It is an habit of Israel to train their young men how to handle sword. And this does not in anyway turn disciples/Apostles to bodyguard. It is a wrong choice of word

Wonderful piece of information, I never knew.

otobo Suleiman the scammer Working all winter shinning all summer just to make the mulla
high chief of legal Robbery staffs Nig plc you deserve a Champaign for your skill

alBHAGDADI:
Nonsense talk from a false prophet looking for ways to justify his obvious wrong doings.

The disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ were not bodyguards. Anyone making such statement is only insulting Jesus cos he never hired any bodyguard.

Why would anyone need a bodyguard? Is it not to protect you from getting hurt or KILLED?

If apostle Suleiman says Jesus had armed bodyguards, then what he's saying in essence is that Jesus didn't know what he came to do on earth.

Our Lord Jesus Christ came to earth to die for our sins. He knew that and spoke of how the event will go. Keeping bodyguards will mean he was preventing himself from facing his destiny and assignment. No wonder he rebuked Peter when he used a knife to cut of the ear of one of the men among the soldiers that came to arrest Jesus before home was killed. Have you ever seen any man prevent his bodyguards from doing their job of protecting him? No.

Moreover, the alleged bodyguards of Jesus Christ preached the gospel and even laid down their life for their master after he had ascended to heaven.

How many of the armed policemen and bodyguards of these false prophets do you see preaching the gospel like Peter, john, Mathew etc did?

None.

you couldn't have said it better...

danvon:
Yes Jesus healed it and told him "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword" u didn't add that...Mr cut,copy and paste

off topic!!!!Topic says ARM nt MIRACLE

engrchykae:
john asked master,shall we call down fire and consume them even as Elias did.
Peter asked,lord shall we strike with the sword?
Most people who claims to be Christians don't read the bible and knows nothing about Christianity.
The early Christians were rugged radicals,hardcore.
They are what cnn and bbc will term as fundamentalists or even terrorists.

it seems like we have false prophets and false followers d early Christians were nothing like terrorist they were all persecuted in different manners read history

mickeymimi:

http://punchng.com/church-and-tithe-true-or-trite-talk/
http://www.thepointng.com/christians-are-not-to-pay-tithe-theologians-declare/

http://dailypost.ng/2017/12/04/tithe-daddy-freeze-blasts-apostle-suleman-reminds-failed-prophecy/

The Association of Christian Theologians, at the weekend, told Christian leaders in support of paying tithe to hold their peace, saying the exercise is not meant for Christians. say Adeboye, Oyedepo, others got it wrong



The association, which made its position known after a meeting in Lagos, said that payment of tithe, as recorded in the Bible passage, Malachi 3:6 to 10, was meant for the descendants of Jacob. Nigerians and other African tribes are not included, according to the theologians.
Speaking through its National President, Prof. Kunle Macaulay, the body said Nigerians were the descendants of Ham, a Gentile, and not of Shem, “who are the Israelites, and are, as such, not obliged to pay 10 per cent of their income as demanded by the churches.”
Macaulay, who supported radio host and presenter, Ifedayo Olarinde, popularly called Daddy Freeze, in describing tithe-paying by Christians as “modern scam”, also deplored a comment credited to the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, that Christians who refused to pay tithes “are living under a curse.”
He said, “Daddy Freeze is right by calling tithe-paying a modern scam. Tithe paying is not of Christianity and we expect well educated men of God like Pastor Adeboye and Bishop (David) Oyedepo (of The Living Faith Mission) to tell their congregations this biblical truth.
“Malachi 3:6 to 10, the Bible passage being used to threaten Christians refers to the descendants of Jacob, who are children of Israel, and not Christians.
“Nigerians are descendants of Ham, the race referred to as the Gentiles, while the Israelites are descendants of Shem, which is the house of Jacob.
“Men of God should interpret the Bible in the context of the writing as well as the history of the period of writing. In verse 7 of Malachi 3, the Bible records that the Israelites did not keep to the law of paying tithe ‘ever since the time of their fathers’, and were being admonished to change.
“That passage is talking about the law of Moses and not the law of love under which Christians are expected to operate.”
The ACTS president said Christians and their leaders could raise funds to carry out their projects, “but not by deceit, manipulation, magic, suggestivity and hypnotism, as we have these days.”
The Bible, he insisted, should be studied historically, noting that many pastors nowadays were not biblically trained.
“Many of them are either retirees, pensioners or jobless people, who are now in Christian leadership,” he observed.

Association of theologians can only interprete bible to those that are feeding on milk but not on solid food of the spirit. Those that are rooted in God are lead by Holy Spirit to have a clear revelation of the scriptures/Bible. U as a person suppose to have grown to the level of asking God for a clear revelation on this.

KinzyeWriter:
Opari, Jesu gan logba. Pastor Suleyman is a true Christian

Me too wan turn pastor... I want to be talking to a chick by the well and having goons around me.

He truly has a point.

Seems you haven't watch that video where SHATTA WALE slapped his bodyguard from pushing his fan off stage .

Your point is irrelevant

u are the one typing off point.

An average Israelites are trained as warriors. It is an habit of Israel to train their young men how to handle sword. And this does not in anyway turn disciples/Apostles to bodyguard. It is a wrong choice of word

pascal558:
off topic!!!!Topic says ARM nt MIRACLE

armed but they never killed try to attack apostle Suleiman first maybe they will slice off ur ear

oruma19:
they have rewritten the bible already in the hearts of the sheeple. I pity people who still follow these people.

they aren't following them cuz of anything other than the promise of prosperity and unmerited miracles...

bunmishontelle:
Bible verse to back up your point?

John 18:10 (KJV) Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.

alBHAGDADI:
Nonsense talk from a false prophet looking for ways to justify his obvious wrong doings.

The disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ were not bodyguards. Anyone making such statement is only insulting Jesus cos he never hired any bodyguard.

Why would anyone need a bodyguard? Is it not to protect you from getting hurt or KILLED?

If apostle Suleiman says Jesus had armed bodyguards, then what he's saying in essence is that Jesus didn't know what he came to do on earth.

Our Lord Jesus Christ came to earth to die for our sins. He knew that and spoke of how the event will go. Keeping bodyguards will mean he was preventing himself from facing his destiny and assignment. No wonder he rebuked Peter when he used a knife to cut of the ear of one of the men among the soldiers that came to arrest Jesus before home was killed. Have you ever seen any man prevent his bodyguards from doing their job of protecting him? No.

Moreover, the alleged bodyguards of Jesus Christ preached the gospel and even laid down their life for their master after he had ascended to heaven.

How many of the armed policemen and bodyguards of these false prophets do you see preaching the gospel like Peter, john, Mathew etc did?

None.

Just look at what you wrote. Nna you lack reasoning o.
Pls don't be bias. You said yourself he rebuked peter from using his knife. Why was peter with knife in the first place.

Though I will not fully agree with pastor sulaimon on this. The purpose of discipleship is not to act as bodyguard but as people who are being mentored to mentor others. I will only agree to one fact that having a bodyguard does not make someone a sinner. This world we are so much full of evil that we can use any legal means to protect our life from evil people of the world.

kelvinUchiha:



Just look at what you wrote. Nna you lack reasoning o.
Pls don't be bias. You said yourself he rebuked peter from using his knife. Why was peter with knife in the first place.

An average Israelites are trained as warriors. It is an habit of Israel to train their young men how to handle sword. And this does not in anyway turn disciples/Apostles to bodyguard. It is a wrong choice of word

Otobolizer wants to start again ooo.

danvon:
armed but they never killed try to attack apostle Suleiman first maybe they will slice off ur ear

do u knw papa ayo oritsejaforThat guy was the only non bishop that saw d corpse of late arch bishop benson idahosa,i think u cn do a little digging on why!!!! in other news,RIGHT FRM D DAYS OF JOHN D BAPTIST THE KINGDOM OF GOD SUFFERET VIOLENCE AND D VIOLENT TAKET IT BY FORCE!

engrchykae:
john asked master,shall we call down fire and consume them even as Elias did.
Peter asked,lord shall we strike with the sword?
Most people who claims to be Christians don't read the bible and knows nothing about Christianity.
The early Christians were rugged radicals,hardcore.
They are what cnn and bbc will term as fundamentalists or even terrorists.

so our very corrupt nigerian police who are sulaiman's bodyguard have all this power? you see how foolish you sound?

Let's even assume you want to emulate Christ, even though you are 100% wrong, Where did Jesus collect or Give tithe? Why are you collecting tithe, who then are you emulating? When a passage seems to favour you, you copy the one that doesn't favour you you discard as old laws.

engrchykae:
john asked master,shall we call down fire and consume them even as Elias did.
Peter asked,lord shall we strike with the sword?
Most people who claims to be Christians don't read the bible and knows nothing about Christianity.
The early Christians were rugged radicals,hardcore.
They are what cnn and bbc will term as fundamentalists or even terrorists.

You are on point....many failed to understand this due to ignorance

Suleman is a fraud. It is not hard to see.

The sooner people realize that this Suleiman is nothing but a glorified Scam Artiste the better for us all.

But alas, fools will still be fo0ls, and will still listen to this charlatan noisemaker.

Then id1otic zomb1es will say " the church is under attack in these last days", when it is quite obvious that the "church" is attacking itself with impostors, traitors, saboteurs, money grabbers, womanizers, false prophets, thieves and betrayers like this empty barrel masquerading as "men of God".

If this mor0n called Suleiman thinks Jesus surrounded himself with bodyguards, then I am sorry for his followers in particular and Christendom in general.

"Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?" John 18:11

KushyKush:
Not everyone that calls him Lord will see his kingdom. Even preachers of his word

Ban

kelvinUchiha:



Just look at what you wrote. Nna you lack reasoning o.
Pls don't be bias. You said yourself he rebuked peter from using his knife. Why was peter with knife in the first place.

Swords were normal tools carried about by almost every mature male in those days. That's almost like how you have it with abokis and daggers. This in no ways says they are bodyguards.

Playz:
Well, you could say so.
Although it wasn't explicitly stated in the Bible.

You're scared to say he's talking horseshit because you think God would punish you.

HeyCorleone:

You're scared to say he's talking horseshit because you think God would punish you.

You don't speak against a man of God... whether he's right or not..

alBHAGDADI:
Nonsense talk from a false prophet looking for ways to justify his obvious wrong doings.

The disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ were not bodyguards. Anyone making such statement is only insulting Jesus cos he never hired any bodyguard.

Why would anyone need a bodyguard? Is it not to protect you from getting hurt or KILLED?

If apostle Suleiman says Jesus had armed bodyguards, then what he's saying in essence is that Jesus didn't know what he came to do on earth.

Our Lord Jesus Christ came to earth to die for our sins. He knew that and spoke of how the event will go. Keeping bodyguards will mean he was preventing himself from facing his destiny and assignment. No wonder he rebuked Peter when he used a knife to cut of the ear of one of the men among the soldiers that came to arrest Jesus before home was killed. Have you ever seen any man prevent his bodyguards from doing their job of protecting him? No.

Moreover, the alleged bodyguards of Jesus Christ preached the gospel and even laid down their life for their master after he had ascended to heaven.

How many of the armed policemen and bodyguards of these false prophets do you see preaching the gospel like Peter, john, Mathew etc did?

None.

Playz:
Well, you could say so.
Although it wasn't explicitly stated in the Bible.

See mentality