Biety:
what are you trying to say man? Didn't you read in the News recently that SE caucus in the PDP were working with their SS counterparts to deny SW the chairmanship position of the party? Addres issue with open mind pls.

Igbos in PDP made sure SW lost that position to secondus.

What I'm trying to say is that SW PDP took things for granted until it was too late. You don't expect SE/SW PDP to work for your candidates when they have their own. Besides most of the blame should go to northern delegates cos they sure didn't vote for your candidates even after promising to do so. Even some SW delegates didn't vote for Adeniran.
And why isn't anyone blaming Fayose for this? The only governor in the zone did not even show open support. You get?

Alcatraz005:


Yes, we lost this one but our people feel cheated (I don’t who why though). This however plays into our script to ensure that Atiku is messed up by association with the igbos. Sad for a man who has been trying to be President since 1993. He would just have to lose the elections since the igbos haves hijacked the party, a clear danger signal to we yorubas.

This is an honest response. I still don't see how Igbos have hijacked the party. Except if Secondus is Igbo. As for Atiku he might not even emerge as candidate.

limeta:
Rotten teeth

c ur life... akooogba

They started with personal agendas, they went without facts.

1. Did everyone in SW vote for Buhari in 2015? No. Jonathan had about +40%, Muhammad had about less tha 60%. It is folly to blanket the SW as pro Buhari

2. Does the contestant in PDP need SW? Very much. PDP is already very strong in SE, a Northern candidate is a plus for them, what would attract the SW to him?

3. As it is, PDP may pick a vice from the SE / SS. A good one given the fact that the regions mentioned can do with a VP at that time.

Strategically dumping PDP chairmanship in SW would have been a great plus for a better tomorrow for the party. It would have revived PDP vibes in the SW. Some mojo at least for the party.

It's not a smooth road yet for PDP. But one thing is that PDP isn't APC. It will be hard for one man to champion the cause of PDP or to make PDP into a regional affair. The party wasn't designed that way.

As woeful as Buhari is, PDP may carelessly encourage more people to come vote for him against them this time around.

Personally, I dont want another Hausa/Fulani in 2019 except it is a single term. Herdsmen wahala should not go beyond 2023 at most. Giving PDP the ticket is herdsmen till 2027!

So whichever way it is that party is disadvantaged from the go this time. Whoever is sinking in money really needs to be smart and sure. @atiku, @wike etc.

Ragnorak:


What I'm trying to say is that SW PDP took things for granted until it was too late. You don't expect SE/SW PDP to work for your candidates when they have their own. Besides most of the blame should go to northern delegates cos they sure didn't vote for your candidates even after promising to do so. Even some SW delegates didn't vote for Adeniran.
And why isn't anyone blaming Fayose for this? The only governor in the zone did not even show open support. You get?

VERDA:


Nope,the sw did it to themselves when the refused to listen to reason from other regions including the north to pick a consensus candidate,they were all too big to step down for one another and the better organized candidate got the votes let's stop making this a tribal affair.

your post would have made a lot of sense if SE caucus hadn't shown open support for secondus before the D Day.

No. I Didn't Say That. Secondus' Track Records In Administration Of Political Parties Is Quite Impressive.

Thanks

CaptainJeffry:
Are you saying that Secondus who has been a vice chairman and acting chairman for a long time isn't fit for that post or what

PFRB:
Who is the chairman of APC?

Good luck Ebele Patience Jonathan Otuoke

Arigold007:
Pls who made Atiku PDP presidential candidate, u see the prob, u assume alot of thins like getting the chairmanship seat. Pls wait for PDP primaries then u can assume another thing. Mr. Superhuman

The presidency has been zoned to the north so you are going to serve a fulani man anyway.

Biety:

why lieing to yourself?

Who are the yorubas that voted

against adeniran? Post their

names here for us to believe your story, if you can't then hide your face in shame.

Adeniran got 230 votes and came second despite the fact that SE worked against his emergence. Common sense should tell you that he must have gotten those votes from sw delegates.

There were over 350 yoruba delegates, if Adeniran got only 230 votes, it's only commonsensical to say that more than 100 yoruba delegates voted against him and that's assuming all the votes he got were all from the yoruba delegates which I doubt.
Abeg stop this crybaby attitude.

Alcatraz005:


Yes, we lost this one but our people feel cheated (I don’t who why though). This however plays into our script to ensure that Atiku is messed up by association with the igbos. Sad for a man who has been trying to be President since 1993. He would just have to lose the elections since the igbos haves hijacked the party, a clear danger signal to we yorubas.

I thought you people said you're sophisticated?

I could only see your sophisticated cry.....

mofos.

MakeADifference:
They started with personal agendas, they went without facts.

1. Did everyone in SW vote for Buhari in 2015? No. Jonathan had about +40%, Muhammad had about less tha 60%. It is folly to blanket the SW as pro Buhari

2. Does the contestant in PDP need SW? Very much. PDP is already very strong in SE, a Northern candidate is a plus for them, what would attract the SW to him?

3. As it is, PDP may pick a vice from the SE / SS. A good one given the fact that the regions mentioned can do with a VP at that time.

Strategically dumping PDP chairmanship in SW would have been a great plus for a better tomorrow for the party. It would have revived PDP vibes in the SW. Some mojo at least for the party.

It's not a smooth road yet for PDP. But one thing is that PDP isn't APC. It will be hard for one man to champion the cause of PDP or to make PDP into a regional affair. The party wasn't designed that way.

As woeful as Buhari is, PDP may carelessly encourage more people to come vote for him against them this time around.

Personally, I dont want another Hausa/Fulani in 2019 except it is a single term. Herdsmen wahala should not go beyond 2023 at most. Giving PDP the ticket is herdsmen till 2027!

So whichever way it is that party is disadvantaged from the go this time. Whoever is sinking in money really needs to be smart and sure. @atiku, @wike etc.


X

Why give this kind of true analysis to ungrateful Nairalanders free of charge.

Anyway them no go hear until eh happen in 2019. This tactics would be ok if PDP is prepared to remain a regional party for a while. But going into a national election this way? Mbanu.

chronique:
it's like these people's brains,have been used to eat roasted bolle and yam. the north wanted to back a candidate from the south west but their foolishness did not allow it work as they had several people wanting to be the chairmachairman from that zone,at the same time. the south south and south east,supported a single candidate and reached out to other zones for support whic they got;what then is the problem of the yorubas? on the other hand,if you go round the entire south west,you'd find out that none of these states have a pdp government(apart from ekiti). it makes more sense that the chairman should come from a zone where the pdp is strong and active.

As simple as ABC

This is one of the men that was privileged to be schooled by Awolowo ,he understood the body language of the Baba only to veer into conservative political camp..only God knows what is happening ..we aren't seeing much of him these days because he is in a wrong political camp..now a shadow of himself

Biety:

your post would have made a lot of sense if SE caucus hadn't shown open support for secondus before the D Day.

The SE have a right to support whom ever they want,it is no secret that SE and SS always support each other as seen in the last election even to their own detriment,how about other regions like the NW,NE and NC,they also supported Secondus for the same reason that the SW aspirants refused to put their house in order.

PVision2020:
PDP ti gba penalty lo throw in. APC will have a very very easy ride in the SW come 2019.
I don't like both APC and PDP, but what I detest is PDP playing into the hands of APC. SW will vote MASSIVELY for Buhari not because they like him but to prove a point and to make a loud statement.

They can vote for buhari, it doesn't matter. Even if PDP gave them the chairmanship, the SW will still vote for APC.

Giving them chairmanship would be a waste. PDP is consolidating their assets in the south.

All they need is to work on the north, and SW votes can go to blazes.

MakeADifference:
They started with personal agendas, they went without facts.

1. Did everyone in SW vote for Buhari in 2015? No. Jonathan had about +40%, Muhammad had about less tha 60%. It is folly to blanket the SW as pro Buhari

2. Does the contestant in PDP need SW? Very much. PDP is already very strong in SE, a Northern candidate is a plus for them, what would attract the SW to him?

3. As it is, PDP may pick a vice from the SE / SS. A good one given the fact that the regions mentioned can do with a VP at that time.

Strategically dumping PDP chairmanship in SW would have been a great plus for a better tomorrow for the party. It would have revived PDP vibes in the SW. Some mojo at least for the party.

It's not a smooth road yet for PDP. But one thing is that PDP isn't APC. It will be hard for one man to champion the cause of PDP or to make PDP into a regional affair. The party wasn't designed that way.

As woeful as Buhari is, PDP may carelessly encourage more people to come vote for him against them this time around.

Personally, I dont want another Hausa/Fulani in 2019 except it is a single term. Herdsmen wahala should not go beyond 2023 at most. Giving PDP the ticket is herdsmen till 2027!

So whichever way it is that party is disadvantaged from the go this time. Whoever is sinking in money really needs to be smart and sure. @atiku, @wike etc.

It will not revive anything. Let us stop deceiving ourselves. Tinubu owns the SW.

Giving you chairmanship will be a huge waste.

forget all this stories of plotting....nobody is plotting anything oh jare....it's time the youth in south west take up the mantle of leadership....the present Yoruba leaders are too old and lack ideas to move the zone forward. ....the south west has been the most advantageous in this thing called democracy in NIGERIA since 1999....so why complain now for ordinary PDP chairmanship....you cannot eat from both sides....the zones enjoys from APC and wants to grab another share from PDP...

Alcatraz005:


Yes, we lost this one but our people feel cheated (I don’t who why though). This however plays into our script to ensure that Atiku is messed up by association with the igbos. Sad for a man who has been trying to be President since 1993. He would just have to lose the elections since the igbos haves hijacked the party, a clear danger signal to we yorubas.

So you're confirming that the Yorubas hate the Igbos. Wow, that's refreshing to hear. Keep it up

desreek9:
I'm still trying to understand the bruhaha just becos the yorubas did not get the chairmanship position, if atiku thinks he can win the election with the SE and SS support alone , so be it, we will see how it would turn out in 2019, it's their time to shine , let them be abeg

So you people will not vote Atiku just because the Yorubas didn't get the PDP chairmanship position? Hmm, this is serious!

Keneking:
SW are in the minority in current PDP affairs. 5%

Who SW epp?

i hope u or any of ur relatives aren't in Lagos, and of course u might be joking.

Biety:
what are you trying to say man? Didn't you read in the News recently that SE caucus in the PDP were working with their SS counterparts to deny SW the chairmanship position of the party? Addres issue with open mind pls.

Igbos in PDP made sure SW lost that position to secondus.

i am a Yoruba man but not bothered about positions, the goal should be that we competent hands on deck, as for that position the s/w after PDP lost the 2015 election went completely numb, as for bode george and co they av never contributed a meaningful quota to the success of the pdp as i won't shed a tear for their candidate losing out, some people are now tribalising this election both igbos and yorubas but try to remember 2019 its some few months away not really certain for anyone until the winner is declared, note buhari holds the upper hand also not as lightly as Jonathan was with power, as u can see how he is allowing corruption to fester in his government, how much more the thirst for political power?.

Speaking on Channels TV on Monday, Makarfi said the south-west never had a true consensus candidate for the chairmanship position.
He also said a “damaging campaign” engineered by an unnamed individual rubbed negatively on the region.
“For the south-west, it was at the convention venue that they resolved on a consensus candidate. And even then, another candidate came to the state box and met the leaders and said, look, they never resolved, that he was still in the race. So, it was a total confusion,” he said.

Biety:
what are you trying to say man? Didn't you read in the News recently that SE caucus in the PDP were working with their SS counterparts to deny SW the chairmanship position of the party? Addres issue with open mind pls.

Igbos in PDP made sure SW lost that position to secondus.

am shocked.the yorubas are complaining. its politics and the south south got it.just like gmb won with d support. of yorubas. the south has.picked.up the bills since 2003 till.date, again the crisis dat tore the PDP started with.the SW and.later moved.to APC same wud happen as litigation will set.party on fire

yoruba should allow PDP to rest,

PDP chairmanship position can not be won by media propaganda

I don’t know where the likes that you got came from but you could not be farther from the truth.

Yorubas have been in opposition since independence, and never cried marginalization. TBH they don’t have time for such. Even when some lone Yoruba tribal rangers try to whip up such sentiments, it’s dead before it arrives. The reason is not far fetched; they have a strong social justice system that makes their society to prosper but default. Same cannot be said of the other major regions in Nigeria.

The Igbos can become whatever they aspire to be, the Yorubas couldn’t be bothered. I mean look around you and see how “quietly” progressive they always are in dealing with everyone regardless of tribe, gender or religion.

Guys, please plan well and assert yourselves as you deem fit. If you succeed, great! If not not try again. That’s what the Yorubas have been doing since 1960 without blaming anybody for their fortune, and or misfortunes.

And yes, this is the first time the Yorubas are partnering with the North (PMB) to form a Central government (outside of OBJ’s orchestrated rule by the military). The Igbos had always been the ones playing that support role since independence; even though they were offered the lead role by the Yorubas at the time! But you won’t hear the Yorubas wail about how the lost out because the Igbos rejected their offers, choosing to partner with the North.

Excerpt:

“In Nigeria’s peculiar situation, no political party was realistically placed to form the government, thereby compelling a coalition of convenience between political parties. Both the AG and NCNC contemplated forming the government with the support of their northern allies but this did not materialise in spite of Chief Awolowo’s willingness to concede the premiership to his older rival, Dr. Azikiwe. Sir Ahmadu Bello threatened to take the North out of the federation if the proposed arrangement between the NCNC and AG was effected.“

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/opinion/revisiting-the-historic-1959-general-election/amp

Peace!!!

knowledgeable:


"Hypocrisy of logic ". The Yorubas in PDP will band together and help PDP to self destruct for whose advantage??....APC obviously, and yet they will not leave PDP.
Yorubas voted in Buhari not because they love Nigeria. Far from it, They hate Nigerians but love Nigeria, just like Buhari they voted in.
For 2019 presidential election, they(some) will work as insiders in PDP for self destruction. Mr Bode are telling the Igbos in PDP that, they are plotting to destroy the Yoruba race, because Igbos may have found their voice in this new PDP after the Yorubas plotted for their political extinction in APC(almost 50 years after they joined in genocide war against Igbos).

This is the clearest indication that the Yorubas will go at any length(even if it involves mutual annihilation) to prevent Igbos from ascending the political ladder in Nigeria. It also indicates the Yorubas willingness to permanently destroy the Igbos politically and economically, and yet will not allow Igbos to part ways with them.

someone that can not deliver his ward is making noise. Wike asked you to win a state and you couldnt, but you want them to hand over the party to you guys.